When was your breaking point for Fawaz?

[Lefkasman]

Amazing how many people who pay good money to watch football are happier with a drab 1_ 0 win rather than being entertained.
I spoke to a West Brom fan years ago who didn't give a shit about the football as long as they won 1,0 every week.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Amazing how many people who pay good money to watch football are happier with a drab 1_ 0 win rather than being entertained.
I spoke to a West Brom fan years ago who didn't give a shit about the football as long as they won 1,0 every week.

I guess football's different things for different folk, which is fair enough.

I do however think that people who attend matches should have far more say in what happens at the club. An army of kids Tweeting whoever at te club at every move as they play as Forest on their Xbox should be duely ignored and, ideally, used as slaves down t' pit so we can rebuild the industry.

 

[Barry]

Amazing how many people who pay good money to watch football are happier with a drab 1_ 0 win rather than being entertained.
I spoke to a West Brom fan years ago who didn't give a shit about the football as long as they won 1,0 every week.

He should have supported Arsenal then instead

 

[Barbus]

He should have supported Arsenal then instead

#postlikeits1995

 

[Rzar]

Amazing how many people who pay good money to watch football are happier with a drab 1_ 0 win rather than being entertained.
I spoke to a West Brom fan years ago who didn't give a shit about the football as long as they won 1,0 every week.

It's just a culture of fans that are never happy.

If you are playing great football and not winning; the fans want to grind a result.

If you are playing terrible football and winning; the fans want great football.

If you are playing great football and winning; the fans will still complain. Just look at Arsenal.

 

[Clifford]

It's just a culture of fans that are never happy.

If you are playing great football and not winning; the fans want to grind a result.

If you are playing terrible football and winning; the fans want great football.

If you are playing great football and winning; the fans will still complain. Just look at Arsenal.

Arsenal are the worst examples of that, they should hero worship Wenger but still some complain.

Kept them competitive for years despite the cost of building a new stadium whilst their rivals spent so much more.

 

[Ravi]

If I was only interested in 'entertainment' I certainly wouldn't be going to watch a lower end second tier team every week.

 

[RufusTFirefly]

I know there has been a few threads regarding Fawaz recently, but where this one differs is that it'd be interesting to find out at what point in time did he lose your support?
When did you think that you can't see the club going forward and that his position was untenable?

Personally, it's taken me quite a while to get to this point where I just want him gone. Reason why is that I mostly felt he was just incompetent.
I thought he was a bloke that did want success for the club but had no real concept of how to run an English football club and couldn't trust people who did for help long term.
There was always rumours and half truths where you would never quite get the full story, so in the interest of just focusing on the football, try to ignore the background noise.

But for me, the sale of Burke and his ramblings on Twitter to fans were the final straws and to me, it's just evident that we're either going to go backwards or just keep spinning our wheels with him around.
We can't expect any kind of sustained success when he's doing whatever it is that he's doing and with this Guardian article, you can kinda see why the players are so inconsistent. Football is their livelihood and while the romance of the game would lead us to think that they should all be motivated on time, how well would any of us perform at work if we didn't get paid on time on a regular basis?

When he reappointed billy. It was clear at that point he didn't have a f***ing clue, hadn't talked to anyone at the club or even in english football about him and was doing what he was told by a bunch of morons on the internet.

He got a reprieve when he appointed sycho: but then quickly lost it again by being a twat. Since then I have to admit that I've barely taken any interest in football at all (what with england being so shite as well).

I had a vague flicker as we looked so promising at the start of this season but it's quickly gone to shit again, presumably because the players are so pissed of with not being paid etc that they can't be bothered.

I'll be back when he's f**ked off for good.

 

[Harry1982]

It's just a culture of fans that are never happy.

If you are playing great football and not winning; the fans want to grind a result.

If you are playing terrible football and winning; the fans want great football.

If you are playing great football and winning; the fans will still complain. Just look at Arsenal.

would you say the sense of entitlement has anything to do with the ticket prices?

 

[sebs]

What did dougal do to earn that level of loyalty?

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it wasn't neccessarily him, just felt that he got completely completely f**ked over and got fed up of the way our club, no sorry, our chairman, deals with managers. I got sick of the inevitable every year.

Also, I do think he would have moved in the right direction, it's pretty tricky only being able to bring in free transfers and loans and I thought he was doing very well considering the circumstances

 

[sebs]

Your missing some decent football.

I'm sure I am, but he's also not getting my money.

 

[Account Deleted]

As crazy as it sounds I still hope that Fawaz can make some compotent long term decisions for Forest even now.

Having already aligned himself towards Marinakis, who I think was a crook, the future custodians of the club is a matter that requires great consideration.

It would be far too easy for Fawaz to say "f*** it" and pass the club on to the first chancers who come along. Think Munto Finance if you don't get my drift.

While I think it is time for Fawaz and his entourage to give up their daydreams of returning Forest to the Premier League, I hope that in the supporters rush to rid him from the club, we don't make a hasty decision that in the long run, will be worse than where we are now.

 

[Wes' Organ]

As crazy as it sounds I still hope that Fawaz can make some compotent long term decisions for Forest even now.

Having already aligned himself towards Marinakis, who I think was a crook, the future custodians of the club is a matter that requires great consideration.

It would be far too easy for Fawaz to say "f*** it" and pass the club on to the first chancers who come along. Think Munto Finance if you don't get my drift.

While I think it is time for Fawaz and his entourage to give up their daydreams of returning Forest to the Premier League, I hope that in the supporters rush to rid him from the club, we don't make a hasty decision that in the long run, will be worse than where we are now.

He isn't capable pal, he's had enough/ran out of cash and we'll get who we get.

We're blitzing down shit creek already so irrespective of how bad the new lot might be, take comfort from the fact that we would end up in the shit before too long anyway.

 

[CaptainBlack]

I'm probably on my own here, but I wouldn't say I'd reached 'breaking point'. That's not because I'm a Fawaz supporter but because in principle I find the whole 'get rid' or 'not good enough for Forest' argument pointless. You give anyone abit of time and collate every misjudgement and mistake they make and you can make anyone look sackable.

In any case it's a lazy throwaway comment that usually comes about when your personal dislike for someone skews your objectivity.

And I stick by that point of view whether we're discussing Pansyboy Lansbury, Fox and his wand of a left foot, mad Billie Davies, lost the dressing room Pearce, dour Dougie, flapper Darlow, Nigel turned our club into a shambles Doughty or whoever. There's always some noisy minority wanting to get rid of someone and I'm not jumping on any of their bandwagons.

That doesn't mean players, managers or owners can't be criticised.

Of course if someone is deliberately, maliciously and conclusively acting against the interests of the club, then it's another matter entirely.

If getting rid of owners, players and managers really ever solved anything then over the past 10 years we should've added another star and have beaten Barcelona earlier in the week.

While I haven't reached 'breaking point' yet, whatever that even means, Fawaz has certainly gone beyond the point of no return. The ownership issue is now overshadowing everything at the club even though all it would take is a good run by the team for the restlessness to subside.

Of course once we hit a bad patch, out would come the pitchforks again.

Now I'm not at all keen on John Jay Moores to be honest, but if he does buy Fawaz out then as far as I'm concerned he's a Forest man and I wouldn't be chiming in to 'get rid' of him either.

If he doesn't have a Twitter account, that would be a great start.

 

[PynchonForest]

The warning shot was his sacking of SoD. I hate to keep bringing it up, but that move foreshadowed the mess. The breaking point was hiring Macleish.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I'm probably on my own here, but I wouldn't say I'd reached 'breaking point'. That's not because I'm a Fawaz supporter but because in principle I find the whole 'get rid' or 'not good enough for Forest' argument pointless. You give anyone abit of time and collate every misjudgement and mistake they make and you can make anyone look sackable.

In any case it's a lazy throwaway comment that usually comes about when your personal dislike for someone skews your objectivity.

And I stick by that point of view whether we're discussing Pansyboy Lansbury, Fox and his wand of a left foot, mad Billie Davies, lost the dressing room Pearce, dour Dougie, flapper Darlow, Nigel turned our club into a shambles Doughty or whoever. There's always some noisy minority wanting to get rid of someone and I'm not jumping on any of their bandwagons.

That doesn't mean players, managers or owners can't be criticised.

Of course if someone is deliberately, maliciously and conclusively acting against the interests of the club, then it's another matter entirely.

If getting rid of owners, players and managers really ever solved anything then over the past 10 years we should've added another star and have beaten Barcelona earlier in the week.

While I haven't reached 'breaking point' yet, whatever that even means, Fawaz has certainly gone beyond the point of no return. The ownership issue is now overshadowing everything at the club even though all it would take is a good run by the team for the restlessness to subside.

Of course once we hit a bad patch, out would come the pitchforks again.

Now I'm not at all keen on John Jay Moores to be honest, but if he does buy Fawaz out then as far as I'm concerned he's a Forest man and I wouldn't be chiming in to 'get rid' of him either.

If he doesn't have a Twitter account, that would be a great start.

Brilliant post.

 

[RRRREDUN]

Amazing how many people who pay good money to watch football are happier with a drab 1_ 0 win rather than being entertained.
I spoke to a West Brom fan years ago who didn't give a shit about the football as long as they won 1,0 every week.

Never once said I enjoyed last season but I'd have enjoyed it even less if we were now playing in the 1st division.
I don't think the players we had were capable of scoring loads. Basil was a trier but was never going to get enough chances.
Anyway, enough of all that, now it's all going swimmingly.

 

[account deleted]

While I haven't reached 'breaking point' yet, whatever that even means, Fawaz has certainly gone beyond the point of no return.

For most people I would imagine they are one and the same thing

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

I'm probably on my own here, but I wouldn't say I'd reached 'breaking point'. That's not because I'm a Fawaz supporter but because in principle I find the whole 'get rid' or 'not good enough for Forest' argument pointless. You give anyone abit of time and collate every misjudgement and mistake they make and you can make anyone look sackable.

In any case it's a lazy throwaway comment that usually comes about when your personal dislike for someone skews your objectivity.

And I stick by that point of view whether we're discussing Pansyboy Lansbury, Fox and his wand of a left foot, mad Billie Davies, lost the dressing room Pearce, dour Dougie, flapper Darlow, Nigel turned our club into a shambles Doughty or whoever. There's always some noisy minority wanting to get rid of someone and I'm not jumping on any of their bandwagons.

That doesn't mean players, managers or owners can't be criticised.

Of course if someone is deliberately, maliciously and conclusively acting against the interests of the club, then it's another matter entirely.

If getting rid of owners, players and managers really ever solved anything then over the past 10 years we should've added another star and have beaten Barcelona earlier in the week.

While I haven't reached 'breaking point' yet, whatever that even means, Fawaz has certainly gone beyond the point of no return. The ownership issue is now overshadowing everything at the club even though all it would take is a good run by the team for the restlessness to subside.

Of course once we hit a bad patch, out would come the pitchforks again.

Now I'm not at all keen on John Jay Moores to be honest, but if he does buy Fawaz out then as far as I'm concerned he's a Forest man and I wouldn't be chiming in to 'get rid' of him either.

If he doesn't have a Twitter account, that would be a great start.

I had to read that twice Captain, you've covered pretty much every eventuality.

I don't know about you are probably on "your own", you are probably in the majority.

I have never jumped on any bandwagon but I have my own personal point of view, if you do not the whole of life is pointless (not having a go at you btw )

 

[foggytuch73]

I'm sure I am, but he's also not getting my money.

Hang on fawaz pays the wages after all..

 

[DaveTTT]

He got a reprieve when he appointed sycho: but then quickly lost it again by being a twat. Since then I have to admit that I've barely taken any interest in football at all (what with england being so shite as well).

The only England team I watch is the womens England team - at least they give a damn, play with pride at representing their country, and aren't out for self glory.

It's a sad day when the mens England team are the precocious princesses.

 

[mark6243]

I thought the Al Hasawi's were just another Bhatti Brothers or Venky's from the moment they were touted as interested in the club.

Sooner they go, the better. The question is, how much with Fawaz take as he leaves, and how much will the club owe him once he's gone?