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When was your breaking point for Fawaz?

DizzyBala

DizzyBala

Jack Armstrong
I know there has been a few threads regarding Fawaz recently, but where this one differs is that it'd be interesting to find out at what point in time did he lose your support?
When did you think that you can't see the club going forward and that his position was untenable?

Personally, it's taken me quite a while to get to this point where I just want him gone. Reason why is that I mostly felt he was just incompetent.
I thought he was a bloke that did want success for the club but had no real concept of how to run an English football club and couldn't trust people who did for help long term.
There was always rumours and half truths where you would never quite get the full story, so in the interest of just focusing on the football, try to ignore the background noise.

But for me, the sale of Burke and his ramblings on Twitter to fans were the final straws and to me, it's just evident that we're either going to go backwards or just keep spinning our wheels with him around.
We can't expect any kind of sustained success when he's doing whatever it is that he's doing and with this Guardian article, you can kinda see why the players are so inconsistent. Football is their livelihood and while the romance of the game would lead us to think that they should all be motivated on time, how well would any of us perform at work if we didn't get paid on time on a regular basis?
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
I'm rarely in the mob over management or ownership. Joined today.
 
Clifford

Clifford

Viv Anderson
There have been 4. Sacking SOD was when I realised he wasn't what I hoped he was.

After George Boyd I hoped he would eventually sell up but didn't complain and still defended him occasionally, because I thought he was a nice bloke and had the clubs best interests at heart.

Oliver Burkes sale was a real breaking point in that it was such a bad deal in my eyes that I actively wanted Fawaz gone but still thought the talk of protests was excessive.

Reading DT's tweets yesterday has lowered my opinion so much that, it breaks my heart to say it but I don't think I will be at the City Ground whilst Fawaz is involved. Daniel Taylor is a writer I greatly respect, if he is concerned enough to go public with this stuff and has the fact checkers at the Guardian behind him I am inclined to believe every word he has written.
 
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siforest65

Jack Burkitt
Dan Taylor's article has done it for me.

If anyone else had written it I'd have taken it it's a huge dose of salt.
 
Barry

Barry

Where's me hammer?
sebs said:
not spent a penny towards the club since the freedman sacking.

been to doncaster away and paid on the gate, but given up my season ticket and not been back yet.
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What did dougal do to earn that level of loyalty?

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888balluk

888balluk

John Robertson
The Burke sale for me and this article makes me want to rip the lying ***** head off


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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
MASE

MASE

Up-Front
sebs said:
not spent a penny towards the club since the freedman sacking.

been to doncaster away and paid on the gate, but given up my season ticket and not been back yet.
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Your missing some decent football.
 
888balluk

888balluk

John Robertson
Just hearing no forest rep went last night for the induction

Now I want to shi7 down his throat


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MASE

MASE

Up-Front
Not sure Fawaz has ever done anything for folk to openly back him, but like a few others Ive always been prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt because, as unambitious as it sounds, his money has always enabled some decent managers & players to at least give it a go.

If I looked deep enough, I could always find small justification for some of his more controversial decisions and live in hope that at some point the penny will finally drop.

The DT article has left a bitter taste though, Fawaz latest demands are the tipping point for me. Id rather he left now & we get the chance to rebuild with fresh ideas.

Wouldnt consider a protest & I think there is enough ammunition against Fawaz without having to resort to the nasty shit aimed at him & his family.

Ready for him to go now.
 
justnotjase

justnotjase

Viv Anderson
I was teetering but it was the sale of Burke, with no sell on clause, which clearly indicated to me he wasn't at all worried about the long term and only himself, that killed it for me.
 
Wes' Organ

Wes' Organ

Biggles
Sacking SOD made me realise that he was incompetent.
Emad threatening Pearce that if he didn't win the next 3 games then he was sacked and Petruscu was in made me realise that he was a **** with no respect for us or our traditions.
Everything else confirms it.
 
justnotjase

justnotjase

Viv Anderson
Wes' Organ said:
Emad threatening Pearce that if he didn't win the next 3 games then he was sacked and Petruscu was in made me realise that he was a **** with no respect for us or our traditions.
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For me anyway this has only come to light recently - is this common knowledge?
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
When you see the sum of Fawaz' actions neatly collapsed into one thread, it makes you wonder just how much of an affect it has on the players. We've seen it most seasons, where the team starts strongly then tails off. You see it in individual performances - excellent when they first join, judged with mediocrity within a year or two (Cox, Lansbury, Gillett..). You've seen it intra-game, where there's not much fight to recover losses.

This season was going fine until the Burke sale.

Year after year, our owner sticks is oar in and the club suffers. Really this tide against Fawaz is about three years too late.
 
Tutts

Tutts

Ian Bowyer
Yesterday for me. I didn't like the SOD decision but it was his call to bring in the man he wanted.

The Carry on Kuwait piese was harmless fluff.

Bad timing on payments was something that could be put down to inexperience or clumsiness.

I didn't like the Burke decision but from a purely economic position it made sense.

But this last piece just shows what a wretched greedy man he is with no love for our club other than to impress his mates in Kuwait.

A worthless chancer who we're best shot of as soon as possible.
 
Brettgo

Brettgo

Viv Anderson
The latest articlein The Guardian is the tipping point. There should be no coming back from this. No one should defend him. Players considering strike action (thankfully they didn't, but who could have blamed them!!) sums it all up. his demands seem those of a raving lunatic.
He's no longer wanted here. That much is bloody obvious.
 
Barbus

Barbus

Steve Chettle
Tutts said:
Yesterday for me. I didn't like the SOD decision but it was his call to bring in the man he wanted.

The Carry on Kuwait piese was harmless fluff.

Bad timing on payments was something that could be put down to inexperience or clumsiness.

I didn't like the Burke decision but from a purely economic position it made sense.

But this last piece just shows what a wretched greedy man he is with no love for our club other than to impress his mates in Kuwait.

A worthless chancer who we're best shot of as soon as possible.
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Pretty much the same as my feelings.

I suppose I always knew he was incompetent, but hoped eventually the managers that to be fair he did back financially, and the players that backing bought might get us up despite his incompetence.
Of course we would come straight back down again but the PL money could have transformed the club. Although there's that nagging knowledge in the back of your mind that a transformation of the club with Fawaz in charge couldn't happen.

You hope that things behind the scenes are better than the stories that come out, but it seems that actually they may be worse, so yeah, the sooner he is gone the better.
His condition for the sale are clearly his opening point in negotiations, it's quite obvious he's not going to get anything like them.


Hopefully, JJM or someone else has got deep enough pockets to pay him enough to go away for good, because he's only going to stink the place out and make it harder to leave this sorry era behind us.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

Guest
Frank Clark reportedly sacked via letter

Emad announcing Forest were talking to Petrescu a month before Pearce was sacked.

Two of the last people still alive you would want to see receive shabby treatment from the club. Two of my Forest heroes.

First one really put me off, even if he conceded he made mistakes early on. The talk of respecting the club's history and portrait with Clough pretty meaningless. As he concedes 'actions speak louder than words'. Second one, two and half years in was then end. Showed he had learned nothing. I haven't seen Forest live since.

I still think there are worse owners we could have had. And I've sympathy now it's all turned on him, it always goes too far. But best he moves on.
 
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