When was your breaking point for Fawaz?

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I've had my concerns ever since the SOD sacking but had always thought that even though he makes some daft football decisions, his heart was in the right place that he wanted the best for the club.

After he sacked Dougie and the inevitable lower-than-the-previous-year league finish I came to the conclusion that it just wasn't going to work out and that it would be better for all concerned if he sold up - however I still always thought (perhaps naively) that he was a good guy who'd just tried and failed.

But that Taylor article has totally changed my opinion of him, and has actually left me quite astonished that an owner could be as arrogant, egotistical, selfish and crass as to believe that a club that has been chronically mismanaged, been placed under a transfer embargo and achieved precisely f**k all during his time as owner do anything other than count its lucky stars that he is no longer around to cock things up. The fact he want a a post-sale salary with bonuses show you just how laughably out of touch he really is.

The guy is a deluded charlatan and my only hope now is that a deal is done and he departs as soon as is humanly possible.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Doughty out!

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Trickie Trees]

Like most I have had concerns for a long time. My concerns were abated somewhat when I thought we were being taken over by the Greeks.
That kept me going for a while. I think the final tipping point for me was the Burke sale. That showed he had no real interest in us as a club and our fortunes.

His whole tenure has been an unmitigated disaster and if he doesn't sell soon I fear he will drag us under like what happened to Portsmouth. I really fear he is going to frighten off any prospective owners as he already has done with three potential buyers.

The clock is ticking. I personally think the time has come for fan power to oust this charlatan as we as a group have taken far too much of this shit now. He just doesn't get it so needs to be told. However long it takes.

Cue the next watery eyed interview with Natalie Jackson proclaiming how he loves the club. Sickening.

 

[MASE]

When you see the sum of Fawaz' actions neatly collapsed into one thread, it makes you wonder just how much of an affect it has on the players. We've seen it most seasons, where the team starts strongly then tails off. You see it in individual performances - excellent when they first join, judged with mediocrity within a year or two (Cox, Lansbury, Gillett..). You've seen it intra-game, where there's not much fight to recover losses.

This season was going fine until the Burke sale.

Year after year, our owner sticks is oar in and the club suffers. Really this tide against Fawaz is about three years too late.

Think we're on dangerous ground offering Fawaz up as an excuse for under performing players.

Unlike the fans who put everything emotionally, really cant see any of our lot being gradually broken down by Fawaz mismanagement, I doubt any of them give a flying f*** to be honest.

Players on the verge of striking through late bonus payments sticks right in my throat given they've produced the sum of f*** all on the pitch. The longer your involved with football, the more it becomes evident these players are prepared to give you the bare minimum for your hard earned.

 

[Fawazzock]

Never thought I'd say it, but I joined the mob yesterday

He comes across as a 'nice bloke' but Fawaz talks out his arse and is poisonous for the club. Results down, finance down, attendances down, integrity down, FAWAZ OUT!

 

[OLDMANRED]

The treatment of Pearce did it for me

 

[incapable hulk]

When he sacked SOD. I always try and see it from both sides with him, so I can understand some of his decisions even if I don't agree and think he's made a mistake, but that was the one that set a tone and killed what was such a positivity vibe around the club.

It's not him that made me reach my breaking point with the club though - that came the year before

 

[Otis Redding]

......I personally think the time has come for fan power to oust this charlatan as we as a group have taken far too much of this shit now. He just doesn't get it so needs to be told......

I'm not sure what form "fan power" can take though TT?

Unless he's been keeping a very low profile in the family executive box, al-Hasawi hasn't attended games at the CG since before Burke's sale, nor, I believe, has he been seen at away games. In fact, other than Lalou Tifrit (who is, at least officially, a club employee), none of his regular entourage have been in evidence for some time.

I'm not sure if there's any point in following Charlton fans' lead in disrupting games at the CG in order gain publicity either.

 

[Barry]

I still like him and think he's done nowt wrong.....in fazza we trust

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[Kieran]

This moment feels like an age ago.

 

[Jimmy Gonad]

I'm not sure what form "fan power" can take though TT?

Unless he's been keeping a very low profile in the family executive box, al-Hasawi hasn't attended games at the CG since before Burke's sale, nor, I believe, has he been seen at away games. In fact, other than Lalou Tifrit (who is, at least officially, a club employee), none of his regular entourage have been in evidence for some time.

I'm not sure if there's any point in following Charlton fans' lead in disrupting games at the CG in order gain publicity either.

Disrupting games would have a negative effect on the team and be generally counter productive.

Trying to exert influence from the fan base would need organisation, which would be the first stumbling block.

There will be any amount of groups out there who claim to own the birth right of the club, and you can bet that none of them will have anything to do with each other because of ego and vanity issues.

It looks like its down to Danny Taylor to get rid of him.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

This moment feels like an age ago.

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Sums him up pretty well - belongs in the crowd, hoping like the rest of Forest get better, not leading the way, implementing strategy.

 

[valspoodle]

It's been drip, drip, drip for some time, but, ever eager to give the owner and his various managers the benefit of the doubt, I have soldiered on believing some of the tittle-tattle was not altogether true.

Sadly, my confidence has been misplaced and for some time, as more and more evidence emerges, I've just wanted him gone and I'll take my chance on the new owners, if he ever persuades anybody to accept his crazy terms.

 

[Ravi]

The writing was writ large after the sacking of SOD. Looking back that was the beginning of the end. I too dismissed the slow drip of accumulating damning evidence and hoped that he would learn from his mistakes. What followed has been a succession of poor football decisions, misguided gambles and harmful mismanagement of the business side of the club.

He had three years before his money ran out to get us promoted and he failed. Mistakes in this area dont necessarily make him a bad owner though. Shit happens, we're used to years of failure at NFFC, and it's always easy to look back with hindsight and see a better course of action.

What makes him a bad owner is the ongoing catalogue of incompetency in the running of the business aspects at the club. Late payments to companies, players, and other clubs, a transfer embargo for non payment of transfer fees, frequent court summons, players threatening to go on strike, the longest transfer embargo in the league, revoked safety certificate etc etc. Meanwhile the club's overall finances have plummeted in real terms during his tenure, to the point that we are now a lower half Championship club.

Also, despite his empty words about our heritage the lack of respect shown to to key men in the club's history, Robbo being the latest, demonstrates that actions do indeed speak louder than words.

I can tolerate poor football decisions, but reckless mismanagement of the basics which sustain the football club is unacceptable. Fawaz has demonstrated repeatedly over four years that he's not a fit custodian of a football league club.

 

[Trickie Trees]

I'm not sure what form "fan power" can take though TT?

Unless he's been keeping a very low profile in the family executive box, al-Hasawi hasn't attended games at the CG since before Burke's sale, nor, I believe, has he been seen at away games. In fact, other than Lalou Tifrit (who is, at least officially, a club employee), none of his regular entourage have been in evidence for some time.

I'm not sure if there's any point in following Charlton fans' lead in disrupting games at the CG in order gain publicity either.

The Saturday game is on Sky.
Perfect opportunity for disruption and protest.

 

[Trickie Trees]

The writing was writ large after the sacking of SOD. Looking back that was the beginning of the end. I too dismissed the slow drip of accumulating damning evidence and hoped that he would learn from his mistakes. What followed has been a succession of poor football decisions, misguided gambles and harmful mismanagement of the business side of the club.

He had three years before his money ran out to get us promoted and he failed. Mistakes in this area dont necessarily make him a bad owner though. Shit happens, we're used to years of failure at NFFC, and it's always easy to look back with hindsight and see a better course of action.

What makes him a bad owner is the ongoing catalogue of incompetency in the running of the business aspects at the club. Late payments to companies, players, and other clubs, a transfer embargo for non payment of transfer fees, frequent court summons, players threatening to go on strike, the longest transfer embargo in the league, revoked safety certificate etc etc. Meanwhile the club's overall finances have plummeted in real terms during his tenure, to the point that we are now a lower half Championship club.

Also, despite his empty words about our heritage the lack of respect shown to to key men in the club's history, Robbo being the latest, demonstrates that actions do indeed speak louder than words.

I can tolerate poor football decisions, but reckless mismanagement of the basics which sustain the football club is unacceptable. Fawaz has demonstrated repeatedly over four years that he's not a fit custodian of a football league club.

:tophat:

Sums it up perfectly.

 

[MASE]

The Saturday game is on Sky.
Perfect opportunity for disruption and protest.

Futile excercise in my opinion, Fawaz has few strengths, but one is having a handle of fan opinion through various social media platforms.

He knows we want him out, and if the players are as sensitive as some suggest, this just destabilises our chance of a result we desperately need.

This will influence nothing positively.

 

[Trickie Trees]

Futile excercise in my opinion, Fawaz has few strengths, but one is having a handle of fan opinion through various social media platforms.

He knows we want him out, and if the players are as sensitive as some suggest, this just destabilises our chance of a result we desperately need.

This will influence nothing positively.

Social media turned against him months ago.
Still thinks a teary eyed interview will sway folk and that he can stiff the club for millions.
Personally think it needs to go up a gear.

 

[account deleted]

The writing was writ large after the sacking of SOD. Looking back that was the beginning of the end. I too dismissed the slow drip of accumulating damning evidence and hoped that he would learn from his mistakes. What followed has been a succession of poor football decisions, misguided gambles and harmful mismanagement of the business side of the club.

He had three years before his money ran out to get us promoted and he failed. Mistakes in this area dont necessarily make him a bad owner though. Shit happens, we're used to years of failure at NFFC, and it's always easy to look back with hindsight and see a better course of action.

What makes him a bad owner is the ongoing catalogue of incompetency in the running of the business aspects at the club. Late payments to companies, players, and other clubs, a transfer embargo for non payment of transfer fees, frequent court summons, players threatening to go on strike, the longest transfer embargo in the league, revoked safety certificate etc etc. Meanwhile the club's overall finances have plummeted in real terms during his tenure, to the point that we are now a lower half Championship club.

Also, despite his empty words about our heritage the lack of respect shown to to key men in the club's history, Robbo being the latest, demonstrates that actions do indeed speak louder than words.

I can tolerate poor football decisions, but reckless mismanagement of the basics which sustain the football club is unacceptable. Fawaz has demonstrated repeatedly over four years that he's not a fit custodian of a football league club.

Sums up my thoughts perfectly Ravi

On-the-field misfortune I can handle to an extent - it's the crass mismanagement of the business side of things and lack of respect that I find unacceptable

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

The writing was writ large after the sacking of SOD. Looking back that was the beginning of the end. I too dismissed the slow drip of accumulating damning evidence and hoped that he would learn from his mistakes. What followed has been a succession of poor football decisions, misguided gambles and harmful mismanagement of the business side of the club.

He had three years before his money ran out to get us promoted and he failed. Mistakes in this area dont necessarily make him a bad owner though. Shit happens, we're used to years of failure at NFFC, and it's always easy to look back with hindsight and see a better course of action.

What makes him a bad owner is the ongoing catalogue of incompetency in the running of the business aspects at the club. Late payments to companies, players, and other clubs, a transfer embargo for non payment of transfer fees, frequent court summons, players threatening to go on strike, the longest transfer embargo in the league, revoked safety certificate etc etc. Meanwhile the club's overall finances have plummeted in real terms during his tenure, to the point that we are now a lower half Championship club.

Also, despite his empty words about our heritage the lack of respect shown to to key men in the club's history, Robbo being the latest, demonstrates that actions do indeed speak louder than words.

I can tolerate poor football decisions, but reckless mismanagement of the basics which sustain the football club is unacceptable. Fawaz has demonstrated repeatedly over four years that he's not a fit custodian of a football league club.

:tophat:

 

[Flaggers]

Not sure Fawaz has ever done anything for folk to openly back him, but like a few others Ive always been prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt because, as unambitious as it sounds, his money has always enabled some decent managers & players to at least give it a go.

If I looked deep enough, I could always find small justification for some of his more controversial decisions and live in hope that at some point the penny will finally drop.

The DT article has left a bitter taste though, Fawaz latest demands are the tipping point for me. Id rather he left now & we get the chance to rebuild with fresh ideas.

Wouldnt consider a protest & I think there is enough ammunition against Fawaz without having to resort to the nasty shit aimed at him & his family.

Ready for him to go now.

Are you me in disguise?

 

[Rzar]

I would like to think I was one of the more tolerable people towards Fawaz, I was prepared for him to sell up and stay on as chairman in around July, and I would have been happy for him to stay.

The final nail in the coffin for me was the Burke sale. Everything was running smooth, but one action from a money grabbing chairman threw all the feel good factor out the window and started a spiral of decline. It was even more a kick in the teeth when you learn there is no sell on clause, a complete spit in the face in the future of the club. Listening to him in an interview of how he negotiated the deal is just an embarrassment, and that's not even mentioning the fact he went over the head of two people that clearly know what they were doing. Everything since the Burke sale has been a complete disaster, everything he touches goes to shit.

Maybe I am naive for staying patient with him for so long. The warning signs were always there, but I assumed he had the best intentions. Those intentions seem to have gone out the window in the last few months.

 

[Rzar]

I can tolerate poor football decisions, but reckless mismanagement of the basics which sustain the football club is unacceptable. Fawaz has demonstrated repeatedly over four years that he's not a fit custodian of a football league club.

Worst part about it is, the club is now being punished for his pathetic management of the club because he wants his money back. He should take the money offered for the club and sell 100%. I doubt you will find more than a handful of fans that haven't lost faith in him anymore.

 

[PJOtts]

The stadium capacity issue was the ultimate straw that broke the camels back but i think since the Dougie dismissal I was extremely disgruntled.

 

[Tutts]

The Saturday game is on Sky.
Perfect opportunity for disruption and protest.

Anyone got access to a photocopier to print 20,000 of the following on A4:

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