When was your breaking point for Fawaz?

[Trickie Trees]

Anyone got access to a photocopier to print 20,000 of the following on A4:

F OFF

Will it print on bed sheets?

 

[incapable hulk]

Social media turned against him months ago.
Still thinks a teary eyed interview will sway folk and that he can stiff the club for millions.
Personally think it needs to go up a gear.

Protests haven't worked out particularly well lately. There were ones at Leeds, Charlton and Coventry in recent months....those clubs are still owned by the same people. Forest fans protested when Doughty was in charge and it ultimately lead to Fawaz taking over. Not sure what it would achieve from a fans point of view? Letting Twatwaz know the fans don't want him here anymore- seems fairly clear already. Hence why he no longer even attends games.

Going to games protesting does nothing other than disrupt the team when it's now more than ever that the players need to feel like this club is where they want to be and to be motivated to get results for the fans.

Fawaz is a prat and needs to get out of the club asap but all a protest is going to do is make the club look even more shambolic and probably help deliver another shit result in front of Sky camera's.

Best thing the fans can do is either go to the game and support the players, by doing so you aren't supporting Fawaz, or just stay away entirely and protest by not putting your money or time into the club. Just making a lot of noise isn't going to sway Fawaz but it will make the atmosphere around the place even shitter. I'm not going, because I'd rather not give them my money.
That's what will ultimately force Fawaz's hands, if the gates drop and his investment continues to plunge.

A few dozen fans singing about him at a game he isn't attending won't do anymore than the social media stuff already has done.

I hope sods off soon and stops screwing around because even though there wasn't much left of a club to ruin - he's stopping it from getting up off the floor. In the end it's not owners or players who suffer - it's us, the fans. We've suffered long enough with this club being run as a shambles.

 

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Protests haven't worked out particularly well lately. There were ones at Leeds, Charlton and Coventry in recent months....those clubs are still owned by the same people. Forest fans protested when Doughty was in charge and it ultimately lead to Fawaz taking over. Not sure what it would achieve from a fans point of view? Letting Twatwaz know the fans don't want him here anymore- seems fairly clear already. Hence why he no longer even attends games.

Going to games protesting does nothing other than disrupt the team when it's now more than ever that the players need to feel like this club is where they want to be and to be motivated to get results for the fans.

Fawaz is a prat and needs to get out of the club asap but all a protest is going to do is make the club look even more shambolic and probably help deliver another shit result in front of Sky camera's.

Best thing the fans can do is either go to the game and support the players, by doing so you aren't supporting Fawaz, or just stay away entirely and protest by not putting your money or time into the club. Just making a lot of noise isn't going to sway Fawaz but it will make the atmosphere around the place even shitter. I'm not going, because I'd rather not give them my money.
That's what will ultimately force Fawaz's hands, if the gates drop and his investment continues to plunge.

A few dozen fans singing about him at a game he isn't attending won't do anymore than the social media stuff already has done.

I hope sods off soon and stops screwing around because even though there wasn't much left of a club to ruin - he's stopping it from getting up off the floor. In the end it's not owners or players who suffer - it's us, the fans. We've suffered long enough with this club being run as a shambles.

Spot on.

I think it'll be quite clear to Fawaz already that he is now persona non grata, hence why he's stopped attending matches.

Protesting won't achieve anything other than worsening the already hostile atmosphere at a time when we need results, making said results even harder to achieve.

I actually think apathy is a far more worrying indicator of the fans' mindset anyway - being angry implies that you still care, when a lot of fans (myself included) are actually beginning to stop caring.

 

[Trickie Trees]

Squares.

 

[incapable hulk]

Spot on.

I think it'll be quite clear to Fawaz already that he is now persona non grata, hence why he's stopped attending matches.

Protesting won't achieve anything other than worsening the already hostile atmosphere at a time when we need results, making said results even harder to achieve.

I actually think apathy is a far more worrying indicator of the fans' mindset anyway - being angry implies that you still care, when a lot of fans (myself included) are actually beginning to stop caring.

Fully agree. A hostile atmosphere helps no one, least of all the players at a time we badly need to pick up points to avoid another season in a relegation battle.

Good point on apathy and I think it's something that has grown amongst a lot of us over the years Forest stumble from one disaster to another on an almost weekly basis. Like I said earlier, these things don't make me particularly angry anymore as I just roll my eyes and sometimes laugh. It's just the norm, whether it be Fawaz, Mark Arthur or Wray and Scholar...no one seems to be able to run the club in a sensible way. We are becoming desensitised to it

Squares.

I'd rather not give Sky Sports the satisfaction of revelling in a club in crisis and playing off that. They will be rubbing their hands at the thought of capturing stuff like this, whilst our club will look like crap again and it won't really achieve anything.

We need to get more people like Daniel Taylor to report on the goings on at the club and put pressure on Fawaz in that respect IMO. Pull the curtain back and let's see the wizard for what he really is.

 

[nffc13]

Been surprised so far that in the last year, the unrest on social media hasn't translated into vocal unrest at games. There's not really been anything anti-Fawaz.

Not even at Birmingham, that was supposed to be the time it all came to fruition. There's too many people running voting polls on Twitter, and not many actual real voices doing anything.

I'm not sure it'll change soon either - maybe it's apathy. Maybe the fact Forest are playing decently gets people thinking about the football when they get into the ground.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

It's because the Twitter lot have loud voices but there isn't actually many of them. This is why Fawaz is such a clown for taking them personally (although the abuse is bad and should stop). He can just block them or ignore them if he wanted. Getting involved with such twats dosent help him and it's not a reflection of the fan base. This is why there hasn't been a mass protest however the article from D Taylor might tip forest fans cause he is a fan and is very respected.

 

[888balluk]

he needs to be left in no uncertain terms of how we think of him

Twitter isn't a benchmark for the normal fan, filled with tolls, keyboard warriors and derby fans

According to twitter hes been a dead man walking for months. but not at games or even away games

I shall be having my 2 pence worth. the cun7

 

[Otis Redding]

The treatment of Pearce did it for me

The reckless trashing of Stuart's professional reputation was an inevitable, and sadly predictable, consequence of al-Hasawi slavishly pandering to Twitter demands to recruit him in the first place.

The writing was writ large after the sacking of SOD. Looking back that was the beginning of the end. I too dismissed the slow drip of accumulating damning evidence and hoped that he would learn from his mistakes. What followed has been a succession of poor football decisions, misguided gambles and harmful mismanagement of the business side of the club.

He had three years before his money ran out to get us promoted and he failed. Mistakes in this area dont necessarily make him a bad owner though. Shit happens, we're used to years of failure at NFFC, and it's always easy to look back with hindsight and see a better course of action.

What makes him a bad owner is the ongoing catalogue of incompetency in the running of the business aspects at the club. Late payments to companies, players, and other clubs, a transfer embargo for non payment of transfer fees, frequent court summons, players threatening to go on strike, the longest transfer embargo in the league, revoked safety certificate etc etc. Meanwhile the club's overall finances have plummeted in real terms during his tenure, to the point that we are now a lower half Championship club.

Also, despite his empty words about our heritage the lack of respect shown to to key men in the club's history, Robbo being the latest, demonstrates that actions do indeed speak louder than words.

I can tolerate poor football decisions, but reckless mismanagement of the basics which sustain the football club is unacceptable. Fawaz has demonstrated repeatedly over four years that he's not a fit custodian of a football league club.

You sum up this whole sorry episode in the club's history in a nutshell Ravi.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Anyone got access to a photocopier to print 20,000 of the following on A4:

F OFF

Yes, I have £2k on my staff printing account but I'm not sure it's a valid enough reason to not get sacked

 

[Wes' Organ]

Yes, I have £2k on my staff printing account but I'm not sure it's a valid enough reason to not get sacked

Only one way to find out.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Redundancies are coming. At this point Fawaz is only the second worse CEO/Chairman/charlatan I know

 

[Barry]

Just play dumb, "well i pressed 2 copies and needed the loo..... When i came back... Well you know.... Sorry"

 

[sedgred]

When he sacked Shaun O'Driscol put me on the edge, when he bought back Davies that was more than enough, my attendances began to drop and very little apart from the appointment of Pearce, but I dreaded it ending in tears, has Moved me since.

 

[George cooney]

He is who he is and hes trying to gather back what hes spent,we would all do the same if we could.
Regarding his ownership i see he is just another name who will be forgotten in time.

 

[adam09]

Sacking Pearce.

It was already going sideways after SoD... it's been all downhill since sacking Psycho and there's been a whole load of weird shit since.

 

[matt1982]

Apparently he mismanaged al qadsis back in Kuwait then before coming here and still wants some claim to any success so he's not seen as a total failure back there. Safe to say he already is, we were taken over by a complete clown and have paid a heavy heavy price. Would much rather it is a clean break and he fucks off completely because him hanging around would be worse.That's what happens at most clubs isn't it, one person leaves, another takes over. But no with Forest it's never that easy is it :facepalm:

 

[Barry]

Has anybody checked on the well being of the chaps over at vital?

 

[Redemption]

Has anybody checked on the well being of the chaps over at vital?

Just a minute ago I wondered about Vital and CGF... I guess the'll be apoplectic and the ITKs will spinning more yarn than they'll be able to cope with.

 

[incapable hulk]

he needs to be left in no uncertain terms of how we think of him

Twitter isn't a benchmark for the normal fan, filled with tolls, keyboard warriors and derby fans

According to twitter hes been a dead man walking for months. but not at games or even away games

I shall be having my 2 pence worth. the cun7

But he's not at the games so how will he hear you?

That's the problem with a protest, chances are the target will be in another part of the globe so won't pay one iota of attention to a protest he can't see or hear. The only way folk are going to get to him are if the press keep revealing the details of the stupid shit he's doing. Need to hope they do I guess.

 

[carlosmerino]

For me it was the wheelchair moment with his mum. An almost look at my toys moment. Left me feeling quite sick.

 

[Bryn Gunn]

When O'Driscoll was sacked I suspected Fawaz wasn't the guy I had hoped he was.
Gave him the benefit of the doubt, he redeemed himself somewhat by appointing Pearce, but after that it was the end.

 

[Project Zeus]

When O'Driscoll was sacked I suspected Fawaz wasn't the guy I had hoped he was.
Gave him the benefit of the doubt, he redeemed himself somewhat by appointing Pearce, but after that it was the end.

Funnily enough, I feel the Pearce appointment was the moment I realised that Fawaz would never be a success here.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely wanted Pearce to succeed, but it was clear to me that, by appointing him, Fawaz was mainly concerned with gaining popularity with the fans.

Of course, this perfectly demonstrates his stupidity, as the popularity was all Psycho's, and the way Fawaz would inevitably treat him would achieve the complete opposite to what Fawaz wanted.

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[Itsy-bitsy Bonatini Yellow Polkadot Bikini]

Frank Clark reportedly sacked via letter

Emad announcing Forest were talking to Petrescu a month before Pearce was sacked.

Two of the last people still alive you would want to see receive shabby treatment from the club. Two of my Forest heroes.

First one really put me off, even if he conceded he made mistakes early on. The talk of respecting the club's history and portrait with Clough pretty meaningless. As he concedes 'actions speak louder than words'. Second one, two and half years in was then end. Showed he had learned nothing. I haven't seen Forest live since.

I still think there are worse owners we could have had. And I've sympathy now it's all turned on him, it always goes too far. But best he moves on.

Thanks for posting this so I didn't have to. Looking back, the way he treated Frank should have been enough, but that's my own fault...fool me once and all that.

Can't wait for him to go so I can support my club again.

 

[Rzar]

Protests haven't worked out particularly well lately. There were ones at Leeds, Charlton and Coventry in recent months....those clubs are still owned by the same people. Forest fans protested when Doughty was in charge and it ultimately lead to Fawaz taking over. Not sure what it would achieve from a fans point of view? Letting Twatwaz know the fans don't want him here anymore- seems fairly clear already. Hence why he no longer even attends games.

Going to games protesting does nothing other than disrupt the team when it's now more than ever that the players need to feel like this club is where they want to be and to be motivated to get results for the fans.

Fawaz is a prat and needs to get out of the club asap but all a protest is going to do is make the club look even more shambolic and probably help deliver another shit result in front of Sky camera's.

Best thing the fans can do is either go to the game and support the players, by doing so you aren't supporting Fawaz, or just stay away entirely and protest by not putting your money or time into the club. Just making a lot of noise isn't going to sway Fawaz but it will make the atmosphere around the place even shitter. I'm not going, because I'd rather not give them my money.
That's what will ultimately force Fawaz's hands, if the gates drop and his investment continues to plunge.

A few dozen fans singing about him at a game he isn't attending won't do anymore than the social media stuff already has done.

I hope sods off soon and stops screwing around because even though there wasn't much left of a club to ruin - he's stopping it from getting up off the floor. In the end it's not owners or players who suffer - it's us, the fans. We've suffered long enough with this club being run as a shambles.

I generally agree. Protests are generally a waste of time and a case of "look at us". I have the same opinion on booing players, completely counter productive.

However, if one is genuinely being properly planned, I think the best way to do protests are at away games for various reasons.

1.) It is mainly the hardcore fans that travel away, not saying the ones that don't travel away aren't because of families, jobs or whatever commitments - but generally the away support will be there whether we are shit or great. My point is they won't just show up for a protest.

2.) You get your point across more and often to a wider audience that aren't just local - especially if the match is televised.

3.) The numbers are smaller; meaning it can be properly organised and they can represent the mass opinion of a fan base.

If things ever get drastically bad for a club, I am talking much worse than we are now - I think an excellent way to get your point across is pick a fairly large away game, and NOBODY attend, a complete boycott. Fans could even sneak in the home end if they wanted to watch it still. All the fan base would buy is one banner, and place it in the away end with the point you are trying to get across. I think that is a very good way of getting your point across, but we are in no position to do something that extreme an