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Lyle James Alfred Taylor

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
Seems odd unless we've someone better lined up. Taylor wasn't great by any means, but not sure where we'll get a better 3rd choice backup striker from.

I take it as an encouraging sign that Hughton's confident of having several new strikers at the club this pre-season.

He'd be stand out in League One, functional in Champ...let's move on
 

DapperDan

Steve Chettle
He would be fine at Championship level, when he had a run of games I thought he was a decent player, he was a handful. When he wasn't playing regular he lost his sharpness and resorted to trying to buy cheap free kicks all the time instead.
 

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Grenville Morris
He would be fine at Championship level, when he had a run of games I thought he was a decent player, he was a handful. When he wasn't playing regular he lost his sharpness and resorted to trying to buy cheap free kicks all the time instead.

Precisely.

A victim of the instability at the club.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
I don't think he's terrible, but he clearly isn't a player the manager wants. I also get the feeling that he doesn't want to be here, and think he only signed for us because there wasn't a club closer to London that were willing to offer a good wage (I remember reading somewhere that he turned down a move to Sunderland when he joined Charlton due to location).

It's best for all parties if he moves on, IMO.
 

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Grenville Morris
I don't think he's terrible, but he clearly isn't a player the manager wants. I also get the feeling that he doesn't want to be here, and think he only signed for us because there wasn't a club closer to London that were willing to offer a good wage (I remember reading somewhere that he turned down a move to Sunderland when he joined Charlton due to location).

It's best for all parties if he moves on, IMO.

Maybe Ashley, but given that we talk incessantly in every thread about "transfer failures" and our shit recruitment it will totally stick in the craw if he goes elsewhere and scores goals. And before everyone does the flick off that they "know" he won't, because he's a league 1 striker etc etc etc, truth is none of us know.
All I know is he has some pace, some strength, when his tail was up (when he got a few consistant games earlier in the season) he certainly looked a threat, his finishing doesn't appear to be any worse that any others and having watched enough football over the years I am undecided about which way he will go. So he will be another one to be binned off without a chance and be cited as a mistake when really we can't work out whether to stick or twist..
...And I don't care if he's homesick. We're even further from Montserrat than Peckham and he's got a job to do..

Final thing to say on this-Jerry Yates had a goal drought earlier in the season at Blackpool but they stuck with him (probably because they didn't have anyone else) and in the end he got 20+. Maybe, rather than having too few decent players we're got too many and are spoilt for choice here.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
An unhappy player who doesn't want to be here and isn't wanted by the manager, it doesn't feel like a recipe for success to me. He may well score goals elsewhere, but I doubt it will ever happen for him here so it's pointless keeping him IMO.
 

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Grenville Morris
but I doubt it will ever happen for him here so it's pointless keeping him IMO.

Sure, but that's, of course why we have no budget for players.
Until we stop behaving like teenagers with ADHD and give someone, anyone a chance we will remain a charity for footballers who can't be arsed to kick a ball...
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Sure, but that's, of course why we have no budget for players.
Until we stop behaving like teenagers with ADHD and give someone, anyone a chance we will remain a charity for footballers who can't be arsed to kick a ball...

I agree that this club writes off players too quickly in a lot of cases (the quick binning of Da Costa and Ioannou spring to mind), but the player themselves have to want that chance; I'm not convinced Taylor actually wants to play for us. I'd sooner see him off the wage bill to make room for someone else.
 

Master Yates

John Robertson
I agree that this club writes off players too quickly in a lot of cases (the quick binning of Da Costa and Ioannou spring to mind), but the player themselves have to want that chance; I'm not convinced Taylor actually wants to play for us. I'd sooner see him off the wage bill to make room for someone else.

What gives you that impression? Seems to me that it’s just a case of him not being Hughton’s cup of tea.

For what it’s worth, I think he’s alright. For all the stats boffins saying we created lots but couldn’t finish, that’s not what my eyes tell me. I thought we created very few good chances to score last season.

If we can find a more reliable way to create next year, whether it’s better crossing or just more slick interplay in the final third, I think Taylor would make a useful option.

Probably moot though because having replaced him with a bloke with all the mobility of an iceberg, I don’t think Hughton rates him at all.


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NooForest

First Team Squad
What gives you that impression? Seems to me that it’s just a case of him not being Hughton’s cup of tea.

For what it’s worth, I think he’s alright. For all the stats boffins saying we created lots but couldn’t finish, that’s not what my eyes tell me. I thought we created very few good chances to score last season.

If we can find a more reliable way to create next year, whether it’s better crossing or just more slick interplay in the final third, I think Taylor would make a useful option.

Probably moot though because having replaced him with a bloke with all the mobility of an iceberg, I don’t think Hughton rates him at all.


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That does't surprise me

There was at least 2 occasions when he was straight through on goal with only the keeper to beat and he missed them both. He runs about like a headless chicken - But so does a headless chicken but headless chickens don't score goals and nether has Lyle Taylor, so he needs to go as well and free up wages for someone who just might.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
What gives you that impression? Seems to me that it’s just a case of him not being Hughton’s cup of tea.

Just a gut feeling, he seemed to decline as the season went on after a fairly decent start (though to be fair to him, we didn't create much) and I wouldn't be surprised if him being disinterested and wishing he was back in London might have played a part in that. Him turning down a bigger wage packet at a bigger club like Sunderland to sign for Charlton (when both were in League One) a few years ago shows that location is quite important to him, I don't think he'd have signed for us if a club closer to home had come close to offering a similar contract.
 

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Grenville Morris
That does't surprise me

There was at least 2 occasions when he was straight through on goal with only the keeper to beat and he missed them both. He runs about like a headless chicken - But so does a headless chicken but headless chickens don't score goals and nether has Lyle Taylor, so he needs to go as well and free up wages for someone who just might.

2 occasions he missed a goal and you want to write him off!!!!!
Jesus....

I can name countless players who've looked a far worse bag of spanners due to lack of fitness, sharpness etc including Watson and Danny Fox (two favourite forum punchbags for a while) but the big one that made me really think you need a run to properly get a handle on them was Kevin Campbell. He looked a complete and utter carthorse the first season we had him (when he clearly wasn't fit or sharp), I can remember him missing goal after goal in every situation and yet when he got to his level and was sharp later on in his stay with us he turned out pretty decent and in fact he was probably the most deadly one on one that I've seen in the Garibaldi for quite some time.

And freeing up wages?. It will cost us several million just to get him out of the place.
 

Master Yates

John Robertson
I was going to say, I know the two misses referred to and I can’t remember many more opportunities than them where he should’ve definitely scored.


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Harvey

Chrissy Cohen
I thought Taylor looked decent when he had a run in the side

Obviously the manager doesn't fancy him
 

NooForest

First Team Squad
2 occasions he missed a goal and you want to write him off!!!!!
Jesus....


I can name countless players who've looked a far worse bag of spanners due to lack of fitness, sharpness etc including Watson and Danny Fox (two favourite forum punchbags for a while) but the big one that made me really think you need a run to properly get a handle on them was Kevin Campbell. He looked a complete and utter carthorse the first season we had him (when he clearly wasn't fit or sharp), I can remember him missing goal after goal in every situation and yet when he got to his level and was sharp later on in his stay with us he turned out pretty decent and in fact he was probably the most deadly one on one that I've seen in the Garibaldi for quite some time.

And freeing up wages?. It will cost us several million just to get him out of the place.

Not just those 2 negatives


I can recount virtually nothing positive that makes me want to keep him
 

NooForest

First Team Squad
I was going to say, I know the two misses referred to and I can’t remember many more opportunities than them where he should’ve definitely scored.


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There you go - He doesn't even have the instinct to get into positions to score
 
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