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The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?

  • Current site - just replace the BC and PT stands

    Votes: 112 65.1%

  • Current site, demolish the existing stadium and build a new one (with ground share during works)

    Votes: 49 28.5%

  • New Stadium further down the River Trent

    Votes: 13 7.6%

  • New Stadium out-of-town

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • New Stadium in the city centre (Eastside option)

    Votes: 19 11.0%

  • Do nothing and stay as it is with 30k max capacity

    Votes: 8 4.7%

  • Other (I will tell you in the comments)

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Total voters
    172
Trents

Trents

John Robertson
GreeksBearingGifts said:
Complex project or not, for me the real reason the deal was unblocked was your promotion to the Premier. The councils realized that choosing alternative options was now feasible for you, because you had the money for it. So they caved. Too cynical?
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Promotion and the subsequent obvious demand has certainly played a part IMO.
 
REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
GreeksBearingGifts said:
Complex project or not, for me the real reason the deal was unblocked was your promotion to the Premier. The councils realized that choosing alternative options was now feasible for you, because you had the money for it. So they caved. Too cynical?
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Seems feasable in fairness, coincidence? Unlikely.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
GreeksBearingGifts said:
Complex project or not, for me the real reason the deal was unblocked was your promotion to the Premier. The councils realized that choosing alternative options was now feasible for you, because you had the money for it. So they caved. Too cynical?
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No. Definitely too cynical.

The last piece of the jigsaw, this week, was the Highways removing their objections after seeing revised plans.

It's just been a long process to deal with all the various bits of the development.

Some simple things along the way, are a good example of this. The club agreeing to double the number of people who cycle to the ground on a match-day. It seems easy to agree to that as a condition. But in practice, it requires a bit of desk based-research and a model to show it can be achieved. It may be ineffective, but it has to be shown how will be achieved because of how it informs a bigger picture of match-day air pollution.

And the number of micro-stipulations like that plus the bigger stuff around the residential development just took time to work through.

if the promotion mattered, it was probably a minor instigator of faster working. I wouldn't think any more than this.
 
Trents

Trents

John Robertson
sammy the snake said:
Really exciting times for us. In few seasons I'll get to visit the WFCG again!

Thet need a rethink on the BC stand. Loads of room and entirely feasible for a 3 tier.
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Some stands are designed with possible further improvement included. I expect the BC would cost just as much to rebuild better as it would to try and add to it.
 
sammy the snake

sammy the snake

Jack Armstrong
Trents said:
Some stands are designed with possible further improvement included. I expect the BC would cost just as much to rebuild better as it would to try and add to it.
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Yes I know it'll need a complete rebuild. The same footings from previous etc.

But the scope could be huge for a new stand. You could get a shops, bars, restaurants at the back. Imagine that
 
REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
The gent who sits next to me at Forest claimed last season that the long term goal for the stadium was to turn it 90 degrees so the length of the stadium runs along the Trent, if that makes sense?

From a footprint point of view it seems to make sense but not sure how it would ever be achieved, obviously I took it with a spoon of salt but has anyone else heard that?
 
Harvey

Harvey

Chrissy Cohen
REDDERS78 said:
The gent who sits next to me at Forest claimed last season that the long term goal for the stadium was to turn it 90 degrees so the length of the stadium runs along the Trent, if that makes sense?

From a footprint point of view it seems to make sense but not sure how it would ever be achieved, obviously I took it with a spoon of salt but has anyone else heard that?
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I can't see any way that could be achieved without demolishing the current stadium completely and rebuilding it
 
REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
Harvey said:
I can't see any way that could be achieved without demolishing the current stadium completely and rebuilding it
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I hear ya, seems totally impossible.

He's a nice guy, not full of shit etc and he'd clearly heard it somewhere so I thought I'd ask if anyone else has.
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
You could - demolish the main stand, and rebuild in a squared-off C shape so the "touchline" parallel to the river is comprised of the existing Trent End and an arm of the "C" of the new main stand. Ditto the Bridgford side.

Would take the ground out of commission for bloody ages though.

Also it'll always be the Trent End, never the Trent Side.
 
Trents

Trents

John Robertson
Flagman said:
You could - demolish the main stand, and rebuild in a squared-off C shape so the "touchline" parallel to the river is comprised of the existing Trent End and an arm of the "C" of the new main stand. Ditto the Bridgford side.

Would take the ground out of commission for bloody ages though.

Also it'll always be the Trent End, never the Trent Side.
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Rotating would certainly solve the Bridgford End sunlight for housing bollocks. Once the big new PT stand is sorted, squaring off that corner was the next plan anyway IIRC.
 
Otis Redding

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
REDDERS78 said:
The gent who sits next to me at Forest claimed last season that the long term goal for the stadium was to turn it 90 degrees so the length of the stadium runs along the Trent, if that makes sense?

From a footprint point of view it seems to make sense but not sure how it would ever be achieved, obviously I took it with a spoon of salt but has anyone else heard that?
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No offence to the bloke in the seat next to yours, but he was speaking utter nonsense.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
It was mooted at one point, as part of the 2018 bid thinking.

It would have involved purchasing the Environment Agency site and filling in the waterway or at least converting it to a culvert.

It was superseded by Gamston, which was far less complicated.
 
REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
Dirk Furtull said:
Regardless of the huge expense and disruption, what would be the point?

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I'd imagine its because the footprint of the ground that could be developed is rectangular, and the current layout the length sits within the short side of that rectangle. Turning it round would leave far more room on the sides, the the ends nearer the existing border.

Anyway, thought I'd ask, its not gonna happen obviously.
 
Morpeth

Morpeth

John Robertson
What is the waterway anyway, and where does it go? Doesn't look like an insurmountable thing to deal with. The environment agency should all be working from home to save the planet, buy-bulldoze it, and we do a spurs and go design heavy. Can we have beer glasses that fill from the bottom and those big sausage rolls please?

The New City Ground - has a ring to it.
 
REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
Morpeth_Edgar said:
What is the waterway anyway, and where does it go? Doesn't look like an insurmountable thing to deal with. The environment agency should all be working from home to save the planet, buy-bulldoze it, and we do a spurs and go design heavy. Can we have beer glasses that fill from the bottom and those big sausage rolls please?

The New City Ground - has a ring to it.
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Oh no, what have I started 🤣

In fairness It would make absolute sense but from a construction perspective it seems totally ridiculous, the new development proposals would also suggest its never going to happen.
 
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