Summer 2020 Bargains

[Statto]

I'd like Matt Smith. Not only is he amazing in the air, but he's not a bad all round player, and has one over on Joe Messi in that 1. he actually completed his degree 2. it was from somewhere decent to start off with. Plus it would stop him always scoring against us.

Henderson with brains.

 

[Wes' Organ]

Henderson with brains.

The mildest complement ever.

 

[Statto]

Henderson was a good player

 

[Otis Redding]

I've said many times I'm enjoying the season. I just put that down to good management, good academy products, and good signings from previous regimes.

It's truly shameful how Fawaz doesn't get the credit he deserves for signing Samba, Ribeiro, Lolley, Silva, Dawson, Watson, Grabban, Carvalho, Ameobe and Sow.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

I like the look of Charlie Kirk at Crewe.

Tall lad, but lots of composure and quality on the ball.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

It's truly shameful how Fawaz doesn't get the credit he deserves for signing Samba, Ribeiro, Lolley, Silva, Dawson, Watson, Grabban, Carvalho, Ameobe and Sow.

Recruitment regimes.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I like the look of Charlie Kirk at Crewe.

Tall lad, but lots of composure and quality on the ball.

Yeah I picked him out when there was talk of us going for Perry Ng.

Kirk would be decent, a bit like Lolley but plays on the left cutting inside on his favoured right foot.

Probably could get him for £500k if that.

 

[Otis Redding]

Recruitment regimes.

Which "recruitment regimes" were responsible for the signing I listed then?

All were acquired under the ownership of Marinakis and Kominakis.

 

[Danga]

The ones he likes were signed under Karanka and MON, the ones he doesn't were signed under Modesto.

 

[Otis Redding]

The ones he likes were signed under Karanka and MON, the ones he doesn't were signed under Modesto.

I'm sure you're right. Which means that as with his opinion of Da Costa, it has to be concluded that given they too were recruited by Modesto, Alf also firmly believes that Samba, Ribeiro, Sow, and Silva are poor signings.

 

[Vikare]

I'm sure you're right. Which means that as with his opinion of Da Costa, it has to be concluded that given they too were recruited by Modesto, Alf also firmly believes that Samba, Ribeiro, Sow, and Silva are poor signings.

Have we already surrendered to the madness and concluded that DaCosta is a poor signing after less than 45 minutes of seeing him play?

(This post could have used some punctuation. But. Oh. Well.)

 

[Ravi]

Have we already surrendered to the madness and concluded that DaCosta is a poor signing after less than 45 minutes of seeing him play?

(This post could have used some punctuation. But. Oh. Well.)

Yes, a 20 minutes sub appearance is all that is needed to judge a player and conclude they aren't up to the job.

Also, Bong isnt fit to wear the shirt after 60 minutes on the pitch.

These days fans are such experts that an hour or less is all that is needed to reach a definitive conclusion about a player.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Have we already surrendered to the madness and concluded that DaCosta is a poor signing after less than 45 minutes of seeing him play?

(This post could have used some punctuation. But. Oh. Well.)

How can he be a good signing though if he's come here to be Grabban's backup, & give him some breathing room as we challenge for the playoffs, when he's not fit enough to do that?

Timing & readyness is just as important as ability with signings. Mir might be a world beater in 5 years, but so what? :dunno:

I'm sure you're right. Which means that as with his opinion of Da Costa, it has to be concluded that given they too were recruited by Modesto, Alf also firmly believes that Samba, Ribeiro, Sow, and Silva are poor signings.

Not my opinion at all. That's an opinion you've made up yourself to suit your "Anti-Alf" crusade.

Which incidentally, is f***ing brilliant, and one of the few reasons I keep commenting on recruitment.

 

[MASE]

Timing & readyness is just as important as ability with signings. Mir might be a world beater in 5 years, but so what? :dunno:

Valid point, January was clearly the time to reinforce our promotion push given we limped there in some positions. Bongs horror show, Da Costa dropping in two minutes & Diakhabys obvious struggles don't suggest there about to fortify our promotion bid with just nine games to go.

Given the timescales involved, short term judgements are inevitable.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Yes, a 20 minutes sub appearance is all that is needed to judge a player and conclude they aren't up to the job.

Also, Bong isnt fit to wear the shirt after 60 minutes on the pitch.

These days fans are such experts that an hour or less is all that is needed to reach a definitive conclusion about a player.

Context though mate, they may be handy with more game time but we haven’t got time. If we drop out the playoffs it’s signings like these which will be the cause.

 

[Ravi]

Context though mate, they may be handy with more game time but we haven’t got time. If we drop out the playoffs it’s signings like these which will be the cause.

No its reality.

Demanding that players make an immediate impact from game one is not only highly impatient, it's also unrealistic. It's the kind of thing that someone who began watching football a week ago might say.

 

[Otis Redding]

Not my opinion at all. That's an opinion you've made up yourself to suit your "Anti-Alf" crusade.

Which incidentally, is f***ing brilliant, and one of the few reasons I keep commenting on recruitment.

Your flip-flopping is laughable.

You stated earlier in the thread that, you are "enjoying" some aspects of the season, namely "good management", "good academy products" and "good signings from previous regimes", which, when pressed, you clarified as "recruitment regimes".

Where is it being "anti-Alf" to point out the absurdness of that statement given that Samba, Ribeiro, Silva and Sow - key members of the squad - were recruited by the current "recruitment regime".

Instead of playing the victim, why not, for once, just acknowlege that, like most of the rest of us (and most certainly myself) on this forum, you just made a daft comment, instead of carrying on digging that hole

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Your flip-flopping is laughable.

You stated earlier in the thread that, you are "enjoying" some aspects of the season, namely "good management", "good academy products" and "good signings from previous regimes", which, when pressed, you clarified as "recruitment regimes".

Where is it being "anti-Alf" to point out the absurdness of that statement given that Samba, Ribeiro, Silva and Sow - key members of the squad - were recruited by the current "recruitment regime".

Instead of playing the victim, why not, for once, just acknowlege that, like most of the rest of us (and most certainly myself) on this forum, you just made a daft comment, instead of carrying on digging that hole

Yeah, I made daft comment

 

[EmmersonForest4]

No its reality.

Demanding that players make an immediate impact from game one is not only highly impatient, it's also unrealistic. It's the kind of thing that someone who began watching football a week ago might say.

It’s not when you want to push on in January. If we don’t want immediate impact I wouldn’t sign anyone because of how overpriced January is. I would also argue that we might as well played Mighten if we are going to patient.

I understand patience but we simply needed an immediate impact for our situation we are in. If not as I said I wouldn’t bother with January signings and play youngsters.

 

[Ravi]

It’s not when you want to push on in January. If we don’t want immediate impact I wouldn’t sign anyone because of how overpriced January is. I would also argue that we might as well played Mighten if we are going to patient.

I understand patience but we simply needed an immediate impact for our situation we are in. If not as I said I wouldn’t bother with January signings and play youngsters.

And what would these immediate impact fantasy players have given us? How would things be different?

 

[Otis Redding]

Yeah, I made daft comment

Wow, just f***ing wow!!!!

Surely, the above post has to be preserved by way of a sticky...surely?

 

[MASE]

And what would these immediate impact fantasy players have given us? How would things be different?

Impossible to say, but the lethargy in recent performances has been palpable. Ameobi, Grabban & co are showing signs we've leaned too heavily on them.

I think its obvious the contingency plan in January hasnt worked.

 

[Ravi]

Impossible to say, but the lethargy in the recent performances was palpable. Ameobi, Grabban & co are showing signs we've leaned too heavily on them.

I think its obvious the contingency plan in January hasnt worked.

What is the reason for Leeds sudden upturn in form?
They only bought in one player in January, and he's played about an hour in total so far, and contributed next to nothing. Yet they couldnt buy a win before his arrival. He's obviously an immediate impact player.

Grabban is irreplaceable, and when Sabri has rotated in order to rest players he's been criticised.

 

[MASE]

What is the reason for Leeds sudden upturn in form?
They only bought in one player in January, and he's played about an hour in total so far, and contributed next to nothing. Yet they couldnt buy a win before his arrival. He's obviously an immediate impact player.

Grabban is irreplaceable, and when Sabri has rotated in order to rest players he's been criticised.

We're not Leeds, I don't get the paralell.

Reality is our squad hasn't been of sufficient quality to step in all season & key players are now having to carry knocks, certain players may well be irreplaceable, but on first evidence, we've given ourselves little chance of compensating.

Given Ameobis performance against Millwall, I couldn't see anyone criticising Sabri for dropping him, trouble is we've got nothing in reserve.

 

[Ravi]

We're not Leeds, I don't get the paralell.

Reality is our squad hasn't been of sufficient quality to step in all season & key players are now having to carry knocks, certain players may well be irreplaceable, but on first evidence, we've given ourselves little chance of compensating.

Given Ameobis performance against Millwall, I couldn't see anyone criticising Sabri for dropping him, trouble is we've got nothing in reserve.

Sure, so it would have had to be an amazing transfer window to compensate and turn us from a team who's been 5th/4th most of the season into something greater. Very unlikely to happen.

The parallel with Leeds is some of our fans seem to be implying that our transfer business in January would have improved our form and league position, when infact they're confusing causation and correlation.