Summer 2020 Bargains

[Liaminho]

I’ll add a realistic non parachute payment needing signing.

Alex Mowatt from Barnsley when they go down

Rumours we were linked with him in January so a relatively realistic signing. Pelly Ruddock from luton is another i think would be decent in our system.

Honestly I just think we need to beef up our Central midfield options and get another 2 wingers and that's us done for the summer.

 

[Otis Redding]

Yeah i'd definitely say go for Mowatt.

I'd love to see us shed a large number, and have a smaller squad, with greater quality, supplemented by the likes of Johnson, Mighten, Richardson and maybe even Dekel-Daks.

Good call SSM, but I'd suggest that Dekel-Dak is at least a year away from serious consideration at present.

Ethen is genuinely talented though, to the point that Robbo was possibly the last Forest player I saw at a similar age who had his command of the football, or maybe Steve Murray a little later?

 

[Barry]

Good call SSM, but I'd suggest that Dekel-Dak is at least a year away from serious consideration at present.

Ethen is genuinely talented though, to the point that Robbo was possibly the last Forest player I saw at a similar age who had his command of the football, or maybe Steve Murray a little later?

We need a Sow equivalent coming through, that's the real game changer for us.

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[Strummer]

We need a Sow equivalent coming through, that's the real game changer for us.

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Maybe that’s why McGuane was signed? Tyrese Fornah could do that role maybe as well.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I’ll add a realistic non parachute payment needing signing.

Alex Mowatt from Barnsley when they go down

Makes me piss, you'll have Ravi & co tell you not to make suggestions like these coz they're "lower legue dross", then in the next breath tell you that every other f***er can't be afforded

 

[Ravi]

Makes me piss, you'll have Ravi & co tell you not to make suggestions like these coz they're "lower legue dross", then in the next breath tell you that every other f***er can't be afforded

Most of your suggestions are either hugely overpriced lower league players, or useless, overweight and hugely overpriced players who play for Derby. There is a theme.

As for the financial reality. Its been explained to you often enough, so I'm not going to try yet again, but wages is the key figure.

 

[Barry]

Maybe that’s why McGuane was signed? Tyrese Fornah could do that role maybe as well.

I know nothing about either but I will add there doesnt seem to be many of them types about in football in general.

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[Otis Redding]

Most of your suggestions are either hugely overpriced lower league players, or useless, overweight and hugely overpriced players who play for Derby. There is a theme.

As for the financial reality. Its been explained to you often enough, so I'm not going to try yet again, but wages is the key figure.

We all know how absolutely pointless it is pointing out the absolutely obvious to him Rav. Thankfully, very few on here seem to buy his relentless bullshit.

He's now claiming that he's able to read Lamouchi's mind.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Most of your suggestions are either hugely overpriced lower league players, or useless, overweight and hugely overpriced players who play for Derby. There is a theme.

As for the financial reality. Its been explained to you often enough, so I'm not going to try yet again, but wages is the key figure.

What a load of bollocks Rav, there's f*** all wrong with any of these suggestions:

Grosicki - 800k
Luongo - 1m
Olivera - 3m
Lyle Taylor - 1-2m
Coutts - £0 (better than Semedo)
Maddison - £0 - (better than Diakhaby)

All perfectly obtainable targets had we acted at the time I suggested them, and not hampered our wages bill with a ton of dross in the process.

I piss myself how in one sentence you state we can't afford their wages, then in the next you say their all "lower league players". If we can't afford lower league players we are f**ked.

The only one you could fault is Marriot, and he's still be a FAR better option than the shite strikers we've had this past year. I'd still take him now.

 

[Daz42]

More chance of signing Liz Taylor.

Bound to end up at Burton.

 

[Otis Redding]

That Football Recruitment computer game seems like it's really fun to play. Heresay fees are acceptable and you can throw up random names without having to consider trivial stuff like wages and FFP impact. I really must give it a go.

 

[Vikare]

We all know how absolutely pointless it is pointing out the absolutely obvious to him Rav. Thankfully, very few on here seem to buy his relentless bullshit.

He's now claiming that he's able to read Lamouchi's mind.

Worldclass matchthreadmaker though.

 

[Ravi]

What a load of bollocks Rav, there's f*** all wrong with any of these suggestions:

Grosicki - 800k
Luongo - 1m
Olivera - 3m
Lyle Taylor - 1-2m
Coutts - £0 (better than Semedo)
Maddison - £0 - (better than Diakhaby)

All perfectly obtainable targets had we acted at the time I suggested them, and not hampered our wages bill with a ton of dross in the process.

I piss myself how in one sentence you state we can't afford their wages, then in the next you say their all "lower league players". If we can't afford lower league players we are f**ked.

The only one you could fault is Marriot, and he's still be a FAR better option than the shite strikers we've had this past year. I'd still take him now.

When people point out where your suggestions are unsuitable or your argument is wrong you merely shift to a different point, cherry pick stats or invoke hindsight.

The latest is re Grosicki. When people pointed out that NFFC matched WBA's terms to Grosicki in January and he still chose them you shifted the argument to "we should have gone for him in the summer". Everyone is a perfect recruiter with the benefit of hindsight and with cherry picked facts, but it is an endless, pointless and circular argument.

We could be ten points clear and you'd still find a stick to beat the club with because they will never be perfect. If it wasnt this it would be a different stick.

In your world NFFC "get everything wrong" when it comes to recruitment. Fine. Fill your boots.

In my world we're having the best season in ages and are in the mix for promotion.
We've finished higher in the table every season since these owners took over.

This season so far:

5th in the table
Wage bill 10th highest
Falling just within FFP limits

Looks good to me.

Those facts would look very different if recruitment was anywhere near as bad as you make out.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

That Football Recruitment computer game seems like it's really fun to play. Heresay fees are acceptable and you can throw up random names without having to consider trivial stuff like wages and FFP impact. I really must give it a go.

Weird how said "hearsay" only works one way, namely the way you want it.

All my suggestions are obviously out of a wage bracket & in breech of FFP. How do we know this? Well because you've speculated so, based on no evidence what-so-ever.

I wouldn't bitch about the game which you yourself constantly play Otis.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

When people point out where your suggestions are unsuitable or your argument is wrong you merely shift to a different point, cherry pick stats or invoke hindsight.

The latest is re Grosicki. When people pointed out that NFFC matched WBA's terms to Grosicki in January and he still chose them you shifted the argument to "we should have gone for him in the summer". Everyone is a perfect recruiter with the benefit of hindsight and with cherry picked facts, but it is an endless, pointless and circular argument.

We could be ten points clear and you'd still find a stick to beat the club with because they will never be perfect. If it wasnt this it would be a different stick.

In your world NFFC "get everything wrong" when it comes to recruitment. Fine. Fill your boots.

In my world we're having the best season in ages and are in the mix for promotion.
We've finished higher in the table every season since these owners took over.

This season so far:

5th in the table
Wage bill 10th highest
Falling just within FFP limits

Looks good to me.

I picked out Grosicki in the Summer. Wasn't hindsight.

I've said many times I'm enjoying the season. I just put that down to good management, good academy products, and good signings from previous regimes.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

When people point out where your suggestions are unsuitable or your argument is wrong you merely shift to a different point, cherry pick stats or invoke hindsight.

The latest is re Grosicki. When people pointed out that NFFC matched WBA's terms to Grosicki in January and he still chose them you shifted the argument to "we should have gone for him in the summer". Everyone is a perfect recruiter with the benefit of hindsight and with cherry picked facts, but it is an endless, pointless and circular argument.

We could be ten points clear and you'd still find a stick to beat the club with because they will never be perfect. If it wasnt this it would be a different stick.

In your world NFFC "get everything wrong" when it comes to recruitment. Fine. Fill your boots.

In my world we're having the best season in ages and are in the mix for promotion.
We've finished higher in the table every season since these owners took over.

This season so far:

5th in the table
Wage bill 10th highest
Falling just within FFP limits

Looks good to me. Those facts would look very different if recruitment was anywhere near as bad as you make out.

FFP doesn't count. After Alf has already signed Marriott and Waghorn for free upfront allegedly round £8m, including adding in midfield dynamo Coutts who Fleetwood beat an array fo Champ sides too... then another 7m on these lads. Who apparently are happy to be paid minimal wages of course.

Or maybe we can just take over their clubs and sign them for a free after they've bought Zac Clough off us for £50m, then we can just resign and go back to just the Forest career.

I've not been replying to him much, if at all for a month or so now cos it's not worth the ever changing debates to suit his own bullshit made up argument which he's decided to infect every thread with.

But you've just summed it up perfectly there.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

FFP doesn't count. After Alf has already signed Marriott and Waghorn for free upfront allegedly round £8m, including adding in midfield dynamo Coutts who Fleetwood beat an array fo Champ sides too... then another 7m on these lads. Who apparently are happy to be paid minimal wages of course.

Or maybe we can just take over their clubs and sign them for a free after they've bought Zac Clough off us for £50m, then we can just resign and go back to just the Forest career.

I've not been replying to him much, if at all for a month or so now cos it's not worth the ever changing debates to suit his own bullshit made up argument which he's decided to infect every thread with.

But you've just summed it up perfectly there.

Again, total lies. Waghorn I said I wouldn't take for more than 2m for one. Oh shit, who'd want to sign a 12 goal striker though? Let's get Da Costa or Mir instead

you lot just have a bee in your bonnet against me, and all come out for a good bum with each other when there's a chance to stick the knives in.

Much like you did Pearce.

 

[Ashley]

Honestly I just think we need to beef up our Central midfield options and get another 2 wingers and that's us done for the summer.

I'd say 2 midfielders (someone more reliable than Sow and a more creative alternative to Silva) and 1 winger rather than the other way around, if Dawson isn't kept on or retires then perhaps another centre back as back up to Worrall and Figs too (unless anyone decent is coming through the academy) and obviously any key players that may be sold (i.e. Cash, Worrall or Lolley) would need replacing. That's all we need really, I certainly don't want another summer where we bring in 10+ players.

I'd love to see us shed a large number, and have a smaller squad, with greater quality, supplemented by the likes of Johnson, Mighten, Richardson and maybe even Dekel-Daks.

I agree, I'd add Marcus McGuane and Jake Taylor (who is doing well on loan at Port Vale) to the list of young players who could play a part next season too. Most of our players outside of the starting XI are crap and I don't think we'd have been any worse off if we gave their places in the squad to any of these young lads instead.

Pantilimon, Darikwa, Hefele, Jenkinson, Bridcutt, Steele, Adomah, and Clough can all go, and I don't want to keep any of the loan signings. That's 12 players gone without any loss of quality right there.

 

[Vikare]

Alf, just out of sheer curiosity; has it ever occurred to you, that Lamouchi.. was.., in fact, recruited?

 

[Otis Redding]

So, Alf's now comparing himsulf with Stuart Pearce. Does his ego have no limit?

Oh, and just for the record, I disagreed with Pearce's sacking.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

What a load of bollocks Rav, there's f*** all wrong with any of these suggestions:

Grosicki - 800k
Luongo - 1m
Olivera - 3m
Lyle Taylor - 1-2m
Coutts - £0 (better than Semedo)
Maddison - £0 - (better than Diakhaby)

All perfectly obtainable targets had we acted at the time I suggested them, and not hampered our wages bill with a ton of dross in the process.

I piss myself how in one sentence you state we can't afford their wages, then in the next you say their all "lower league players". If we can't afford lower league players we are f**ked.

The only one you could fault is Marriot, and he's still be a FAR better option than the shite strikers we've had this past year. I'd still take him now.

No that’s not unreasonable at all. I would say that as well that if we mix things up we’d be a better side for it. So use mendes and get ribeiro on a free which is a good signing and luongo for a mill.

I also think our success is in spite of our transfers because the manager is working wonders. Lamouchi through his tactics has got so much more out of everyone. He has managed to hide players deficiencies and bring the most out of their abilities.

 

[Ravi]

No that’s not unreasonable at all. I would say that as well that if we mix things up we’d be a better side for it. So use mendes and get ribeiro on a free which is a good signing and luongo for a mill.

I also think our success is in spite of our transfers because the manager is working wonders. Lamouchi through his tactics has got so much more out of everyone. He has managed to hide players deficiencies and bring the most out of their abilities.

It doesn't work like that. A coach is only as good as the players he has to work with.

He's doing a very good job, but the idea that Sabri is some kind of superhuman uber coach who is lumbered with a poor squad but has moulded them into a top six team is straight out of a Marvel comic.


Samba, Ribeiro, Figs, Sow etc. These are all good players regardless.

You need both - good enough coach and good enough players.

 

[GOBIAS]

Lard will have 10000 bog rolls left in the Summer. Might be able to pick them up cheap.

 

[DizzyBala]

Colback, Tomlin, Matt Smith would be a good shout.

 

[Statto]

Good call SSM, but I'd suggest that Dekel-Dak is at least a year away from serious consideration at present.

Ethen is genuinely talented though, to the point that Robbo was possibly the last Forest player I saw at a similar age who had his command of the football, or maybe Steve Murray a little later?

He's a small player, and as he's now 18, that is unlikely to change. In a league where your 6'3 14 stone Ryan Yates style cloggers rule more, how much time and space will he get?

Though the advantage you need to have if you're small is being either 1. stocky or 2. fast and perhaps more like Silva but less like Carvalho he doesn't exactly look like he can be easily pushed off the ball.

Needs a loan at somewhere like Fleetwood (Joey was a talented and small player, and knows how to handle himself, so should be able to rough up the lad) to harden him to lower league cloggers, similar to Beckham going to Preston.

The deep lying playmaker isn't really a young kid's role anyway, and whilst he might have been talked up with Johnson and Mighten before (he's older than Alex) as equals his position and being injured has probably slipped behind, but he's certainly still talented.