Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Indeed! If he can keep doing what he's doing he's worth double.
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Remo Marco Freuler + Trains thread
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Hopefully not because we made a loss so this will be bad for ffp
andover red
Geoff Thomas
Interesting article on the success of Bologna this season. Still feels like we missed out with Freuler, who's clearly a good player. Shame we couldn't get it to work here.
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Champions League beckons for Italy's surprise package
Lewis Ferguson and Joshua Zirkzee are playing an important role in Bologna's bid for Champions League football.
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Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Ive seen us linked with Lewis Ferguson, though apparently there's a lot of competition.
Interesting article on the success of Bologna this season. Still feels like we missed out with Freuler, who's clearly a good player. Shame we couldn't get it to work here.
Champions League beckons for Italy's surprise package
Lewis Ferguson and Joshua Zirkzee are playing an important role in Bologna's bid for Champions League football.
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andover red
Geoff Thomas
Based on the competition described in that article (and our FFP challenges) sounds unlikely that we'd tempt him here.
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Subin Hwang
Not that Korean guy
Bologna's going to the Champions League, good for him!
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Key question is will they be traveling there on a pendolino?
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
Surely the real question should be.
How can a quality player like Freuler be a success everywhere he goes - except for at Forest?
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Fewer strikes in Italy.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
I still don't think he was quite the flop made out here - he contributed up until the point Coops lost faith in him. Sure, he ultimately wasn't what we needed but I've seen far worse players in the Garibaldi.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
You've lost me Max
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Apologies I thought this was a thread about trains.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
I think he would work better in the current team.
I think he is a very clever player who can 'keep the ball moving' - with our current front 4 - I think we would see a very different player.
It was, but it seems to have hit the buffers.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
You need a bit more movement in that position in the premier league.
MASE
Up-Front
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Maxi was on the right track thought.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Not good enough for Nottingham Forest but will finish 4th in Serie A, again. Bet he's gutted.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Far better suited to that league than the Prem though. Another Carvalho fit.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Agreed, though as some have said, he might have looked better this season, especially as we’ve tried to play more on the front foot.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I don't buy the not suited to the Prem stuff, he put in some good performances and was always underrated. I think it was more of a style thing, the way we played never suited him.
Bologna & Atalanta play completely different. Atalanta in particular, one of the most well coached teams in Europe with really high intensity and man to man marking. That's PL bread and butter. Switzerland play similar. It was the polar opposite of the way we played last season.
We were too direct and static and he could never impact games in the way he does elsewhere. He's got one of the best pass completion rates this season in Serie A, here it was terrible. An average of about 65 passes per game during his years in Serie A, here it was 34 per game. That's a conflict in style. You could argue he needs to be in a good system to be a good player but I do not subscribe to the notion he is or ever was a bad player/not up to Prem standards.
Bologna & Atalanta play completely different. Atalanta in particular, one of the most well coached teams in Europe with really high intensity and man to man marking. That's PL bread and butter. Switzerland play similar. It was the polar opposite of the way we played last season.
We were too direct and static and he could never impact games in the way he does elsewhere. He's got one of the best pass completion rates this season in Serie A, here it was terrible. An average of about 65 passes per game during his years in Serie A, here it was 34 per game. That's a conflict in style. You could argue he needs to be in a good system to be a good player but I do not subscribe to the notion he is or ever was a bad player/not up to Prem standards.
JohhnyM
Viv Anderson
I thought he built up a good head of steam before his career here was derailed.
MASE
Up-Front
Wherever this guy plays Id expect good pass completion stats, assuming he passes like he did here, with absolutely no invention or forward momentum.
Folks will want to spin it according to how they felt about him at the time, but ultimately I saw a player who was incredibly slow of thought & execution, he took the game down to walking pace, which Im pretty sure is the MO of the Italian League he's apparently smashing. He stood off tackles, ran straight lines & generally contributed nothing, the polar opposite of proactive,
Im chuffed for Bologna, but he was garbage here, utter garbage, yet another below average contributor in the middle of the park.
Folks will want to spin it according to how they felt about him at the time, but ultimately I saw a player who was incredibly slow of thought & execution, he took the game down to walking pace, which Im pretty sure is the MO of the Italian League he's apparently smashing. He stood off tackles, ran straight lines & generally contributed nothing, the polar opposite of proactive,
Im chuffed for Bologna, but he was garbage here, utter garbage, yet another below average contributor in the middle of the park.
He was never going to work here, he just didn't have the speed or the mobility to work in a team that was designed to not have the ball. Same goes for Shelvey and when they were both playing together it was like watching a game on 0.5x speed.
Whether it's a fault of the club's recruitment or Cooper who knows, but you don't buy a ball-player for a team that doesn't have the ball and then wonder why he's no good.
Whether it's a fault of the club's recruitment or Cooper who knows, but you don't buy a ball-player for a team that doesn't have the ball and then wonder why he's no good.