EURO 2020!

[MASE]

It's hard to argue that Gareths tactics lost the game when the previous X amount of managers have never got us that far

Not when you consider what Southgate had at his disposal.

 

[Strummer]

One change for me is Phillips for captain, especially if he moves to a successful club. Small moment, but he ran to Saka after his miss.

For me, he was England’s best player of the tournament.

Absolutely loved seeing him charging about, bossing the midfield, aggression and tenacity and real drive.

 

[ozthecoz]

Not when you consider what Southgate had at his disposal.

Are the current players better than Ferdinand, Beckham, Lampard, Scholes, Owen, Slap head Geordie, Emile Heskey? ( okay I'll give you the last one lol)

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Though it hurt. I still love penalty shoot outs.

They're fascinating. World class athletes literally put on the spot, under intense pressure. Who has ever said "Oh this one looks like it is going to penalties, I'll switch off now, boring"?

Give us Forest in a play off final penalty shoot out. We need that excitement in our lives

 

[congo_red_49]

I'm finding it very hard to be an England fan this morning.
Not because the team lost the penalty shoot-out. They over-achieved my expectations when they got past the group stage.
No, it's because of the fans behaviour - trashing the capital, bull-rushing the stadium and racially abusing our players who missed penalties.
It doesn't half take the shine off what our players achieved.

 

[magicwoand]

Are the current players better than Ferdinand, Beckham, Lampard, Scholes, Owen, Slap head Geordie, Emile Heskey? ( okay I'll give you the last one lol)

The relative level of opposition wasn't the same as it is now.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Donnarumma voted best player of Euro 2020. Schmeichel best goalie.

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

Donnarumma voted best player of Euro 2020. Schmeichel best goalie.

and Pickford got the golden gloves... So which one was in the Team of the Tournament?

 

[Haych]

Donnarumma voted best player of Euro 2020. Schmeichel best goalie.

That makes sense.

 

[Trents]

Donnarumma voted best player of Euro 2020.

I imagine Spinazzola would have had that in the bag had he stayed fit.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

Euro's is a big tourny no doubt but the World Cup's the one you want.

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

Euro's is a big tourny no doubt but the World Cup's the one you want.

Sure is, forget that Fitz.

 

[adam09]

and Pickford got the golden gloves... So which one was in the Team of the Tournament?

Yann Sommer

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Euro's is a big tourny no doubt but the World Cup's the one you want.

I always find it difficult to really get into the euros, whereas absolutely love the World cup.

 

[Erik]

Robson was vilified for most of his time as manager of England. Euro 88 was a terrible performance. Yet now he's fondly remembered as the manager who took England to a World Cup semi final and narrowly lost. Southgate's England narrowly lost a World Cup semi final and a Euro final.
Even if this young English team matures into tournament winners Gareth will still be viewed as the man who set the foundations in place. If this is a rare high point, as you suggest, then he'll be remembered as fondly as Bobby Robson is now.

We don't half like to reward failure in this country.

Probably why we continue to be failures.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

I'm glad we didn't win as the Scots would have never shut-up and claimed joint ownership for drawing with us in the group stage.

 

[Any Time Now]

Shoulda coulda woulda, if after 2 games of the tournament someone would have said we'd take Italy to penalties in the Wembley final you'd have snapped their hand off regardless of the outcome. Of course it's a disappointing way for the run to end and it will leave a bitter taste, but I hope over the next couple of weeks people will turn their focus onto some of the positives we can take away from this euros as opposed to the negatives.

Maguire was a beast, Walker had wingers in his back pocket, Shaw looked like a man posessed at times down that left side, Rice really grew into that midfield partnership with Phillips, Phillips ended the tournament looking like future captain material, Pickford had a few moments of madness but when we needed him he never failed us. With the next generation of players gradually being blooded in (Grealish, Foden, Saka, Sancho and hopefully Bellingham) we've got plenty to look forward to imo

 

[Eddie Yates]

We didn't play well last night so Congrats to Italy who probably deserved it

I'd rather we'd gone down swinging & lost 4-3 than limply hanging on for penalties

Our penalties were piss poor, I knew Saka & Sancho were gonna miss as they just didn't look confident

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Crossley on the penos.......

 

[HBB]

We did play well for about 15 minutes - I remarked to the good lady that I couldn't remember an England side that had looked as comfortable on the ball and dominant, we were passing well and had direction AND THEN ..... you could see Harry Maguire suddenly shift in to "preserve the lead" mode going backwards rather than go the wings or push up and that was it we lost it right there.

Now whether that was Southgate's idea on the night or a default tactic or just a sense of fear that overtook the team who can say but it was the thing that allowed Italy back in and you just don't allow a team that likes to run with the ball and play quick passing football to come at you for 70 minutes.

We were doomed from then on. I felt so sorry for Declan Rice, he was a revelation, rode tackles, continually went past Italian players and then got stranded with no support. Sterling tried a few things late on but it was back to the old England of a bunch of individuals. Grealish was on a completely different wavelength to the rest of the team when he was belatedly brought on, a bit of guile and invention and absolutely no-one helped him.

Shocking tactics, I know he's supposed to be St Gareth and all that and he's done some good stuff behind the scenes but he's not a matchday manager.

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

Donnarumma voted best player of Euro 2020. Schmeichel best goalie.

Donnarumma looks like a 30-year-old veteran, and we hear of him playing at top level for five years, so it's very easy to forget he's only 22, at an age where most goalkeepers aspire to playing in the odd cup game.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Just watching the highlights again and it's a tough watch at times. Southgate consoling Saka at the end is f***ing heartbreaking.

 

[adam09]

Definitely. Absolutely gutting for the lad. But those ups and downs are what make football.

Who didn’t think Jorginho was going to slot his home with ease? Pickford made a couple of good saves in the game and produced two good penno saves and he was very close to two of the others. Fine margins right there.

 

[Lefkasman]

Just watching the highlights again and it's a tough watch at times. Southgate consoling Saka at the end is f***ing heartbreaking.

Johnson could learn a lot from Southgate when it comes to how to present yourself in a dignified manner.

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[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Johnson could learn a lot from Southgate when it comes to how to present yourself in a dignified manner.

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Sadly, for that to happen Johnson would have to be capable of learning.