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The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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Don Pablo

A. Trialist
Because he made a big thing of saying "for the first time in more than a decade" or something. It might be true, but it was hardly wise. Even the Fulham prawn sandwich fans made a joke of it.
The Fulham fans that sent 1k tickets back and average 24k, made a joke of it?

I must remember to laugh at Newcastles attendance next time we play them.
 

Gaz1980

Youth Team
Yesterday it was so funny watching the over zealous security guards at the gate near the shop, Colin Barrett was stopped by a guard and asked where is your ticket he tried explaining he was one of the legends and a number of older supporters who were so embarrassed started the chant, he put the ball in the scousers net but the guy would not allow him into the Peter Taylor car park even after being told who he was.
Colin decided to turn around and walk away in disgust and it was only the intervention of the car park lady who fetched Colin back and allowed him access.
The clubs security guards are full of self importance and the club has completely lost the fan friendly atmosphere I have been used to.
I was outside The Boot Room having a pint on the side tables and saw Colin get turned away. Brian Laws got in though without showing anything for some reason. Amateurish by the club at the least.

You're right though - the whole change of attitude re NFFC being a family friendly atmosphere pre game has gone. My lad is 9 and has been going to every home game with me since the promotion season, and up until this season he used to (and was allowed) love hanging around the gates near the players entrance and players car park to say hello and have pictures with the players etc. Once, he shouted "Hello Steve" to Cooper as he walked in the players entrance, Cooper walked back to the closed gate but in order to get a nice photo of him for my lad he asked him to wait where he was and he walked back out the players car park and had a nice photo with him and a 30 second chat. He didn't have to do that but that's the man he is.

Forest are getting way too corporate for my liking!
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Forest are getting way too corporate for my liking!
Premier League football is all about corporations and being corporate.
Corporations own clubs (well, owners of corporatins do).
Entry prices are set deter non-corporate spectators.
The increased corporate presence at games means extra security is needed to protect the corporate representatives from harm (and to pander to their self-importance).
And security people are not generally known for being "People people".
Plebs: you's be better off staying home and watching games on the telly - oh but you can't on a Saturday at 3:00 p.m. because the telly has done corporate deals all over the world and isn't allowed to screen live football ona Saturday afternoon.
 

Googler

Viv Anderson
I was outside The Boot Room having a pint on the side tables and saw Colin get turned away. Brian Laws got in though without showing anything for some reason. Amateurish by the club at the least.

You're right though - the whole change of attitude re NFFC being a family friendly atmosphere pre game has gone. My lad is 9 and has been going to every home game with me since the promotion season, and up until this season he used to (and was allowed) love hanging around the gates near the players entrance and players car park to say hello and have pictures with the players etc. Once, he shouted "Hello Steve" to Cooper as he walked in the players entrance, Cooper walked back to the closed gate but in order to get a nice photo of him for my lad he asked him to wait where he was and he walked back out the players car park and had a nice photo with him and a 30 second chat. He didn't have to do that but that's the man he is.

Forest are getting way too corporate for my liking!
I agree my son is now 40 and been coming with me since he was 5 and enjoyed the chance to get photographs with the like of ex players and boxers etc, we now bring my grandkids and the way Forest have stopped access to the Peter Taylor stand car park and to be honest I think the Grandkids may give it a miss next year because of this over reaction from the club and the way the over zealous outsourcing stewarding we have seen this year being introduced
 

RichNFFC

Viv Anderson
The shipping containers aren't even facing the centre of the pitch. They're facing between the tunnel and the family block of the PT stand, looks so strange.

We've never won a game with a stand-in announcer, and this guy was awful. He shouted everything like he was working at Brentford when Toney returned from his ban.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
The shipping containers aren't even facing the centre of the pitch. They're facing between the tunnel and the family block of the PT stand, looks so strange.

We've never won a game with a stand-in announcer, and this guy was awful. He shouted everything like he was working at Brentford when Toney returned from his ban.
Ooof! Harsh😆
 

chaospunx

Geoff Thomas
Atmosphere was awful this Saturday and honestly the more comfortable we get in the Premier League the worst I can see it getting the jeopardy of the last 2 years is what really fired up our atmospheres let's not kid ourselves our home atmosphere was nothing special until cooper arrived and transformed everything.
Home games over the last 2 years have been absolutely nerve shredding and the thought of what could happen carried everything I have no answers how we address the balance but I hope we all figure something out palace at home will hopefully be better as night matches seem to rouse the crowd think social media needs to be full of let's make some noise messages from fans though not the club
 

redordead

A. Trialist
The shipping containers aren't even facing the centre of the pitch. They're facing between the tunnel and the family block of the PT stand, looks so strange.

We've never won a game with a stand-in announcer, and this guy was awful. He shouted everything like he was working at Brentford when Toney returned from his ban.
I thought he'd come straight from the Waltzers at the Goose Fair
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
I thought he'd come straight from the Waltzers at the Goose Fair
He sounded to me like the bloke who calls the scores at the noisy darts
 

Raymondo Ponte'

It's all about 17th...
Atmosphere was awful this Saturday and honestly the more comfortable we get in the Premier League the worst I can see it getting the jeopardy of the last 2 years is what really fired up our atmospheres let's not kid ourselves our home atmosphere was nothing special until cooper arrived and transformed everything.
Home games over the last 2 years have been absolutely nerve shredding and the thought of what could happen carried everything I have no answers how we address the balance but I hope we all figure something out palace at home will hopefully be better as night matches seem to rouse the crowd think social media needs to be full of let's make some noise messages from fans though not the club
Yeh, the atmos is only going to get worse.

Need a competition we can get excited about, and just treading water in the 1st Division aint going to cut it I'm afraid.
 

Templeton

First Team Squad
Atmosphere was awful this Saturday and honestly the more comfortable we get in the Premier League the worst I can see it getting the jeopardy of the last 2 years is what really fired up our atmospheres let's not kid ourselves our home atmosphere was nothing special until cooper arrived and transformed everything.
Home games over the last 2 years have been absolutely nerve shredding and the thought of what could happen carried everything I have no answers how we address the balance but I hope we all figure something out palace at home will hopefully be better as night matches seem to rouse the crowd think social media needs to be full of let's make some noise messages from fans though not the club
Expectation is the problem. It's pretty much the same 99% of season ticket holders as the last couple of seasons, the only thing that changes is expectation. Now we feel like an established Premier League club the back to the wall, fight for survival of the last 2 seasons gives way to the expecation of getting results, and this brings about waiting for something to happen on the pitch and responding to that rather than just getting behind the team regardless of what is happening. I still imagine come the big clubs at home, where the expectation for points will be less, the atmosphere will pick up, but for the less glamourous home games then last Saturday could become the norm again.
 

chaospunx

Geoff Thomas
Expectation is the problem. It's pretty much the same 99% of season ticket holders as the last couple of seasons, the only thing that changes is expectation. Now we feel like an established Premier League club the back to the wall, fight for survival of the last 2 seasons gives way to the expecation of getting results, and this brings about waiting for something to happen on the pitch and responding to that rather than just getting behind the team regardless of what is happening. I still imagine come the big clubs at home, where the expectation for points will be less, the atmosphere will pick up, but for the less glamourous home games then last Saturday could become the norm again.
Exactly this mate
 

Lady Penelope

First Team Squad
Atmosphere was awful this Saturday and honestly the more comfortable we get in the Premier League the worst I can see it getting the jeopardy of the last 2 years is what really fired up our atmospheres let's not kid ourselves our home atmosphere was nothing special until cooper arrived and transformed everything.
Home games over the last 2 years have been absolutely nerve shredding and the thought of what could happen carried everything I have no answers how we address the balance but I hope we all figure something out palace at home will hopefully be better as night matches seem to rouse the crowd think social media needs to be full of let's make some noise messages from fans though not the club
Cooper captured the mood and used it extremely well. Dad says that back in the day, the old Trent End generated so much noise that the players could hear it through the dressing room walls. What i take from all of this is that an exciting, going places side gives the WFCG every encouragement to create an amazing atmosphere. A stagnant, boring side (let alone hopeless) does the opposite.

It's not just down to the players though. the fans do help the players, they say so themselves. The club can also contribute. Not with 'clappers' and that sort of thing, but by planning the stadium 'mix' (corporate and 'ordinary'), stadium design (noisy fans together the create an 'end'), encouraging Forza Garibaldi and others etc. The staff could do more to be honest; Nuno is a lovely guy but he doesn't demonstrate the passion like Cooper. Players too, where's the 'Psycho' war cry before a game? Then, people like the stewards. I absolutely love the two in the BC Upper who try and get folks on their feet to Free from Desire before every game, more of that please.

I won't mention the stadium announcer again.

Creating a banging atmosphere? It's a matter for everybody, and if it is done well, everybody benefits.
 
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I'm Red Till Dead

Stuart Pearce
I was outside The Boot Room having a pint on the side tables and saw Colin get turned away. Brian Laws got in though without showing anything for some reason. Amateurish by the club at the least.

You're right though - the whole change of attitude re NFFC being a family friendly atmosphere pre game has gone. My lad is 9 and has been going to every home game with me since the promotion season, and up until this season he used to (and was allowed) love hanging around the gates near the players entrance and players car park to say hello and have pictures with the players etc. Once, he shouted "Hello Steve" to Cooper as he walked in the players entrance, Cooper walked back to the closed gate but in order to get a nice photo of him for my lad he asked him to wait where he was and he walked back out the players car park and had a nice photo with him and a 30 second chat. He didn't have to do that but that's the man he is.

Forest are getting way too corporate for my liking!
To be fair to the security guy(s) I remember Colin Barrett playing for us but if he came up to me now and said he was him I'd struggle to be sure it was him. Brian Laws has been at City Ground games with Radio Nottingham quite often so there is a good chance that they know who he is by now. Don't put too much blame on the security guard that turned him away. His line management should have made sure that he had a picture or something so he didn't make the mistake. He ought to have sought help from his line management though.
 

chaospunx

Geoff Thomas
Cooper captured the mood and used it extremely well. Dad says that back in the day, the old Trent End generated so much noise that the players could hear it through the dressing room walls. What i take from all of this is that an exciting, going places side gives the WFCG every encouragement to create an amazing atmosphere. A stagnant, boring side (let alone hopeless) does the opposite.

It's not just down to the players though. the fans do help the players, they say so themselves. The club can also contribute. Not with 'clappers' and that sort of thing, but by planning the stadium 'mix' (corporate and 'ordinary'), stadium design (noise fans together the create an 'end'), encouraging Forza Garibaldi and others etc. the staff could do more to be honest; Nuno is a lovely guy but he doesn't demonstrate the passion like Cooper. Players too, where's the 'Psycho' war cry before a game? Then, people like the stewards. I absolutely love the two in the BC Upper who try and get folks on their feet to Free from Desire before every game, more of that please.

I won't mention the stadium announcer again.

Creating a banging atmosphere? It's a matter for everybody, and if it is done well, everybody benefits.
Your dad is correct the old trent end was amazing and in alot of ways I'd go back to those times in an instant but obviously the terraces as they were then will never come back also helped you had to get in there an hour before kick off before they wouldn't let any more in the middle pen so the atmosphere would build a long time before kick off but it's different times now and alot less working class (not saying this is a bad thing but i think it contributes) and there would still be some atmospheres better than others we seem to only remember the good occasions there have been alot of dark glum and silent days down the city ground that on a whole I try to forget.
As for how it goes from here it's a weird thing a football atmosphere and kind of organic and cooper captured it perfectly and was a master of keeping it and with the timing of us getting promoted then staying up against the odds it truly built it to a crescendo trouble is if this year is going to end up as comfortable as I believe it will I don't know how to keep that going it can't be forced because it's always obvious and crap hence the clappers you refranced sometimes as alot of things in life the journey is actually better than the destination.
I hope we crack the code but pretty much the whole of the Premier League has failed to do this there is alot of teams that used to have very passionate and loud fanbases and it's just gone I was shocked at anfield this year first time I've been for years at what that has become.
Anyway we all want the same thing hopefully we can achieve it
 
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