Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.
Fulchester United
Not Elvis Costello's finest work...A few brief points:
Iconic is a word that it used far too liberally
I don't want to go to Toton...
Not Elvis Costello's finest work...A few brief points:
Iconic is a word that it used far too liberally
I don't want to go to Toton...
Yesterday's Daily Mail interview says he's now worth £3 billion. Moves him up a couple of places if true.I thought this list of Premier League owners, by net worth, was interesting...
1 Newcastle United Saudi Public Investment Fund, RB Sports & Media, PCP Capital Partners £489billion 2 Manchester United Glazer Family, Sir Jim Ratcliffe £22.01billion 3 Manchester City Abu Dhabi United Group, Silver Lake £17.37billion 4 Chelsea Todd Boehly, Hansjorg Wyss, Mark Walter £12.47billion 5 Arsenal Stan Kroenke £10.18billion 6 Aston Villa Wes Edens, Nassef Sawiris £9.39billion 7 Everton 777 Partners £8billion 8 Liverpool John W. Henry, Tom Werner £7.74billion 9 Fulham Shahid Khan £6.24billion 10 West Ham United David Sullivan, Daniel Kretinsky £5.76billion 11 Wolverhampton Wanderers Guo Guangchang, Liang Xinjun, Wang Qunbin £5.45billion 12 Tottenham Hotspur Joe Lewis, Daniel Levy £4.58billion 13 Crystal Palace John Textor, David Blitzer, Josh Harris, Steve Parish £4.34billion 14 Bournemouth William P. Foley £1.26billion 15 Brighton & Hove Albion Tony Bloom £1.03billion 16 Nottingham Forest Evangelos Marinakis £489million 17 Brentford Matthew Benham £220million 18 Sheffield United Abdullah bin Musaid Al Saud £158million 19 Luton Town David Wilkinson £25.74million 20 Burnley Alan Pace Unknown
Does EM have the brass? He's a millionaire, trying to compete with Billionaires.
They're moving less than a mile and still in Everton.Redders Everton have played at Goodison longer than we’ve been at the WFCG , they’re as attached to it as we are to our ground. They’re all getting excited now they can see it taking shape and so they should be because it’s the only way they can survive as a club.
^^^ That.They're moving less than a mile and still in Everton.
We're looking at 8.2 miles unless you have wings and barely in Notts let alone Nottingham.
No thanks sounds wankA few brief points:
Iconic is a word that it used far too liberally
I don't want to go to Toton (but I can see that it is a possibility), better options are IMO available (and remain available). Land costs more near the city but the outcome would be just so much better than Toton.
The WFCG is both fantastic and terrible. Could it be done up to standard and increased capacity? perhaps, but it would be expensive to do and the transport and planning problems remain. Therefore I feel that we are likely to relocate, not just because it is quicker, cheaper, and we won't have to share a stadium for two / three years, but because the end product will be so much better in terms of facilities and income generation.
Atmosphere? That's up to us isn't it. So long as the design is right we won't suffer a crapa tmosphere. I have a Derby following neighbour who harps on about the old BBG on the one hand, then boasts about Prideless Park being rocking. Hmmm. What's the common denominator?
State of the art training centre, with pools, saunas, hotel and more. Toton is just great for this. Add in a small stadium for the reserves and we're cooking on gas.
There’s a very fine line!I can’t decide if that’s unbelievably shit and the sort of thing Derby would come up with, or absolute genius! Could it be both?
I would add, I have nothing against Newark, it is a really cool place; I mean, I was born there so it must be.^^^ That.
May as well move to Newark.
"Broooooooownhills Ground!^^^ That.
May as well move to Newark.
The last thing we need to do is get more like bloody Americans. They think the answer to everything is the car when actually it's too many cars causing the problems.The US has the benefit of being so bloody big and having lots of space. And they are happy to drive many miles to get anywhere. So if they want a new ground they build it miles away, surround it with acres of car parks and the customers seem happy to accept the change. Some of the car parks are so big it's almost like walking from WB to Toton!
We talk of moving less than ten miles and the heavens fall in. The Yanks make do without a Greggs or chippie being handy by taking a complete BBQ set in the back of the pick up truck.
Especially given the number of people who would give up going if we moved to Toton..One question that's been on my mind with the stadium debate is this...
Do we have 50,000 fans?
We know there are approx 20,000 season ticket holders and 11,000 on the waiting list (although this figure will be over inflated as it covers members who automatically get signed up on the list).
We know that all home games sell out, so we sell 27,000 tickets for each home game. There's still around 15,000 to 20,000 fans to find to fill a large stadium. Given the price of Premier League tickets, would we actually fill it week in/week out; we're not a large city compared to London, Birmingham, Leeds or Manchester. Surrounding cities have obviously got their own clubs.
I know we've got fans across the world and there are lots of fans who watch and listen across the country, but would we actually fill a large stadium week in/week out, not just against the big clubs, but at home against Bournemouth, a Luton type club etc.
Considering that 5 years ago, attendance at a bang average Championship match would be 25,000, have we got double that amount of fans willing to pay and fill a large stadium?
We've got about 15000 who will be there no matter what.Do we have 50,000 fans?
MarinakisDoes anyone know anybody that actually likes this idea???
The 11,000 signed up for a season ticket at The City Ground though, it won't be that number who take up a season ticket in Toton. It will be at most 10,999 cos I'm on the list and I'm not bloody going thereWe've got about 15000 who will be there no matter what.
Another 8000 who will turn up when things are going well, 3000 away fans and another 4000 who are Premier League only fans.
Of course, in reality it means that the 4000 is doubled to 8000 at the cost of the 15000 die hards.
So that's 30000
Then the club tells us they have a waiting list of 11000, that's 41000.
Throw in a bit of success on the pitch and we could get another 10000 waiting to go on the waiting list.
It's going to look pretty empty when there are 15000 of us crammed in to watch a League 1 game against Rotherham.
Ha ha, love it, proper cut-n-shut job.While I was at work today listening to a very informative presentation regarding mental health week I may have let my mind wander a bit and decided to look at the proposal of rotating the City Ground thru 90 degrees. The good news is, we can have a 47.5k stadium with minimal disruption, the bad news is I didn't really take much of the presentation on board... and the Trent End may now be in the Trent.
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Come on Cartledge get your finger out.... I really don't know what all the fuss is about - turns out you just need Google maps, the snip tool and a bit of a vivid imagination