• All - you probably don't need to be told, but....
    Despite the Admins' best efforts some spammers/scammers/scalpers are getting through the entry system and are, astonishingly, in possession of FA Cup tickets that they, astonishingly, don't want!

    It's probably a scam, and either way it's a criminal offence under section 166 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, (as amended by the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006) to offer or expose tickets for sale.

    Please DO NOT engage with these people - please REPORT any threads/posts offering tickets for sale in case we've not caught them.
    Thanks!

The ‘I have something to say about Forest that doesn’t warrant its own thread’ Thread

FLC

Viv Anderson
Think Tom Robinson was trying to subtly tell us something through his music?


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Had a change of heart though didn’t he?
 

Subin Hwang

Not that Korean guy
It's been just a year since I painted these. Since then we exceeded all expetations and our own wildest dreams, I'm only a relatively recent fan and I'll never be able to comprehend how much joy you must be in after all those years. I just wanted to say I'm so proud of this club and I'm happy to be here.
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Bohinens_chip

First Team Squad
Small thing but I've been enjoying the competence of receiving a neat email after we win with shop offers. Such a simple thing but one that taps into good feeling. I've ended up clicking through on that loads on the evening of a game and bought at least once

If only our training kit was decent.
 

Browser79

Viv Anderson
I keep reading from outsiders as well as fans that our Forest team ‘know what they are and what they aren’t’, and i think it does us a disservice. We know what we want to do and what we don’t… but that’s a very different thing. That’s having a plan.

You could only really argue from yesterday’s first 11 that Yatesy and Taiwo were players with the sort of limitations that implies. The rest are perfectly capable of playing the ball - look at MGW, Anderson, CHO, Murillo for ****s sake is an incredible baller for a centre back - and there are spells in games where we ping it about pretty nicely. When we want to.

Nuno has just walked in to a squad with lightening quick attacking options, a ‘lock picker’ of a playmaker who’s brilliant in quick transitions, and a defence that (with the addition of Milenkovic) can be drilled to be rock solid on the ground and in the air. He’s set us up to play in a way that leverages those weapons. Because he’s smart and not a Pep drone.

When we didn’t start CHO and Tony, we played differently - not looking to soak up and spring so much. And lo and behold we had 47% possession away from home.

I fully expect us to evolve next year because we’ll have the means to do so. But we’ll do it very slightly. I can see Nuno with a strong, mobile and technically very able striker like a Raul of 5 years ago, and I can see us upgrading in midfield, but just to help us do what we do better and not get into those situations where the ball comes back at us too easily.

I’d like to see our players get a little more respect for their ability. They are executing a pretty devastating strategy to an absolute tee.
 

Sooty

Youth Team
I keep reading from outsiders as well as fans that our Forest team ‘know what they are and what they aren’t’, and i think it does us a disservice. We know what we want to do and what we don’t… but that’s a very different thing. That’s having a plan.

You could only really argue from yesterday’s first 11 that Yatesy and Taiwo were players with the sort of limitations that implies. The rest are perfectly capable of playing the ball - look at MGW, Anderson, CHO, Murillo for ****s sake is an incredible baller for a centre back - and there are spells in games where we ping it about pretty nicely. When we want to.

Nuno has just walked in to a squad with lightening quick attacking options, a ‘lock picker’ of a playmaker who’s brilliant in quick transitions, and a defence that (with the addition of Milenkovic) can be drilled to be rock solid on the ground and in the air. He’s set us up to play in a way that leverages those weapons. Because he’s smart and not a Pep drone.

When we didn’t start CHO and Tony, we played differently - not looking to soak up and spring so much. And lo and behold we had 47% possession away from home.

I fully expect us to evolve next year because we’ll have the means to do so. But we’ll do it very slightly. I can see Nuno with a strong, mobile and technically very able striker like a Raul of 5 years ago, and I can see us upgrading in midfield, but just to help us do what we do better and not get into those situations where the ball comes back at us too easily.

I’d like to see our players get a little more respect for their ability. They are executing a pretty devastating strategy to an absolute tee.
A very considered reflection and it’ll certainly be interesting and exciting to see what the 2025/26 season holds for us after this year’s heroics. The other thing to add to the mix will be the influence of Edu over the summer transfer window.
 

valspoodle

Ian Bowyer
Went to a funeral yesterday and after the service, whilst enjoying the nibbles and drinks, sat chatting to a young lad who had gained his degree and was doing a masters in sports science and analysis. I think that's how it went, I'm a bit hazy about things these days.

Anyway, he had thought of pursueing his career in professional sport and had looked into professional football in this country. But he was put off by the appalling salaries offered by clubs.

I had heard members on here complaining about salaries offered by Forest, but thought that might be just our club being a bit mean, but he assured me that poor salaries were offered by several clubs in the League so he's actually changed course completely and gone into banking, knowing that his core abilities are transferrable.
 

sammy the snake

Jack Burkitt
Went to a funeral yesterday and after the service, whilst enjoying the nibbles and drinks, sat chatting to a young lad who had gained his degree and was doing a masters in sports science and analysis. I think that's how it went, I'm a bit hazy about things these days.

Anyway, he had thought of pursueing his career in professional sport and had looked into professional football in this country. But he was put off by the appalling salaries offered by clubs.

I had heard members on here complaining about salaries offered by Forest, but thought that might be just our club being a bit mean, but he assured me that poor salaries were offered by several clubs in the League so he's actually changed course completely and gone into banking, knowing that his core abilities are transferrable.
Thanks for sharing this. I must admit I had been tempted to look at some of the positions Forest offer, not marketing but more on the sales side, but put simply Forest are behind many clubs here as they struggle to fully appreciate the value of a professional sales function and what it can deliver for them. They’re caught between scaling up on a worldwide stage… then paying little above minimum wage for these positions. It’s bizarre but yes not unique..
 

andyd

First Team Squad
The work I do has some elements with connections to professional football. For all the wealth that is sloshing around the on pitch facing part of football clubs the opposite is true on the other side. My personal belief, with what I have seen and heard, is that there is a genuine perspective on that side of football finance of "people will be so starry eyed and thankful they get to work at a football club that we can pay at minimum levels". Sadly that appears generally true and leads to people being somewhat taken advantage of and a high turnover rate of people in those kinds of jobs across the industry when the sheen wears of and they realise they can get paid more most anywhere else for the same role.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
The work I do has some elements with connections to professional football. For all the wealth that is sloshing around the on pitch facing part of football clubs the opposite is true on the other side. My personal belief, with what I have seen and heard, is that there is a genuine perspective on that side of football finance of "people will be so starry eyed and thankful they get to work at a football club that we can pay at minimum levels". Sadly that appears generally true and leads to people being somewhat taken advantage of and a high turnover rate of people in those kinds of jobs across the industry when the sheen wears of and they realise they can get paid more most anywhere else for the same role.
I talked about this on here several months ago. I was offered a position back into football at a professional club into a football development position which overarched three departments. I was offered the position because of my previous football and coaching experience but also because I've owned and run several successful companies.

When I asked a out the salary I was told it was £37K!! I looked at the guy like he'd just hung his c*ck in my drink (I do know him personally btw) and he asked "is that not enough, what would you be looking for"? I said, 3x that amount for starters.

You're absolutely on the money when you say that football clubs seem to have this ego that the people working for them should just be grateful that that are working for a professional football club.

This thinking is so short sighted, you don't attract the best in class for the job and those that do take the job are only there for 5 minutes before they gain some experience and then bugger off to take the next better renumerated job that comes along.

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Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Via Kieran Maguire - we haven't spent as much on agents as many, or as many would have thought.

They're still a bunch of thieving parasitic scum who should be used to scrape the dog shit off your shoes with however.

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DanR

Steve Chettle
That's a great insight into how money just leaves the game with no benefit whatsoever. ManUre spending £33m on agents, in one year alone, to end up with that squad is an appalling waste of money.
 
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