congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Marinakis' track record very strongly indicates that he will make decisions regardless of any fan pillorying.
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Season Cards 2024/2025
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Out of interest do we have any idea what the SC pricing structure is at Olympiacos? @GreeksBearingGifts what kind of pricing structure exists for you all?
I'm interested whether Marinakis would (or has) done this kind of thing with massive hikes to prices to the fans in Greece? Is this his MO that we hadn't really seen or is it screwing fans of the club he owns in a different way to how he treats the fans of his boyhood club?
I'm interested whether Marinakis would (or has) done this kind of thing with massive hikes to prices to the fans in Greece? Is this his MO that we hadn't really seen or is it screwing fans of the club he owns in a different way to how he treats the fans of his boyhood club?
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
In the interests of research, I went to check on the official Oly website, but it was all Greek to me.
Any Time Now
Grenville Morris
Away prices are capped at £30, you won't find a home ticket cheaper anywhere in the PL than what the traveling fans have paid
Bonfy177
LTLF MORON
, better now 
.EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
However congo you know for well if Maranakis ran this like a business that fans would be equally outraged dare I say even more outraged than they are now. Look at how Mike Ashley was treated for daring to say Newcastle only has money that it generates.
Its so easy just to go off on one about this but I cant help but feel you are all outraged at the sypmtom and not the real cause of this. Its not like owners are taking money and assests out of the game. Maranakis has lost more money on Forest than anyone else.
I dont feel outrage at the owners. I feel a massive sense of apathy and frustration at the system of football which to me is backwards and regressive. These are just flashpoints of the bigger problem which is player wages, transfer fees and agent fees.
Part of me wishes now Maranakis runs this like a proper business and I mean a proper business not one hell bent on losing money and see the reaction of the fans, becuase its a shite situation for owners to be in.
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Bonfy177
LTLF MORON
With the renewal price are you given the option of which hand the club will use when they fist you ?
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
It is to reflect the fact that travelling fans incur travel costs to support their sporting heroes.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Το να περιμένουν ο ιστότοπός τους να έχει λεπτομέρειες ήταν μια μάλλον φιλόδοξη προσδοκία
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
The causal factor in all this goes back to SKY TV buying market share and pumping money into buying UK football.
As a direct consequence of that, everyone engaged in the beautiful game had to become a businessman.
And a businessman is someone who exploits a market for personal gain.
Previously Clubs were not set up for anyone's personal gain.
Players have agents, agents get paid massive fees, money in the quantities pumped into the game beget corruption, gambling, gangsters, national governments.... a whole industry of people looking to grab as much of the pie as they can.
Want to sponsor a shirt?
£15 million for a small club... uncapped for a big club...etc etc ad infinitum.
Football is going to see the Ufusulum Bird go extinct...
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Nah, it's not what you do it's the way that you do it.
The club have pissed fans off by severing the Cooper connection, then demanding yet another price hike after that severing failed to yield any significant improvement, and at a time when there's nothing much to be happy about and Championship football is a genuine prospect.
Your excuse for them is akin to seeing your son-in-law finger your daughter at the dinner table, and then saying "but you wouldn't be happy if he didn't give you grandkids would you?"
The club needs to be run as a business, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't value your customers and read the room either.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Thats where I disagree, its not like Business at all. They are hobbies for billionaires and millionaires because there is no personal financial gain here. I actually wish that clubs could make profits coupled with fan boards like they have in Germany. With profits clubs can bring down prices. You cant bring down prices if they are losing money hand over fist.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
They forgot to play MOK before the Everton game - that was possibly our worst home performance of the season.
I get that we are all p***ed off with this - but we need everyone behind the team/players. Causing disruption now - will only effect the team adversely. Then we will really have something to moan about paying these prices for Championship football
The ownership has us playing in the Championship. Do not guilt trip fans into thinking it was their doing because they dared to stand up against the boot that is on their throat.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
I am not saying that - I am not saying there should be no disruption - but this should be aimed at the club- not the fragile confidence of the players.
I will do what I do for every match - I will go and cheer the team. I always stay to the end and I never boo them
I do moan a lot at the after match debrief in the TBI
We all have choice - I am not happy with the price hike, but I have made mine and renewed my ticket.
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Hector Salamanca
Youth Team
If Forest are already down before their trip to Burnley, would it be more effective for fans to unfurl banners in protest, or just boycott the game completely?
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This is my first thought when seeing all the vitriol aimed (rightly) at the club.
Everyone moans, but 95%+ will still renew and those who don't will be replaced by someone happy to pay it.
And the club knows it.
Our atmosphere should be a bonus not a crutch. No other team is so reliant on their fans (newly fleeced fans).
The message will be succinct, yet powerful as the silence will be deafening.
Colbackstreet Boys
Jim Brennan
You'd hope EM will be cognisant of Fawaz's fate and will know that we are a fanbase that can and will mobilise and organise and apply an enormous amount of pressure on an owner to change course or sell up - and do so very successfully.
On the other hand, I look at the Venkys, Vincent Tan, the owners at Reading, the Glazers et al, and I worry that a proper backlash can sometimes only go so far when an owner is really stubborn.
That said, EM's psychology seems to be one of yearning to be liked, popular and the centre of it all. So I think he wouldn't stick around forever if we turned. He's also a piece of work, so if he did sell the club he will likely make it hurt as much as possible.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
Power to the people Wolfie!
You are sadly deluded if you think for 1 minute that the crowd won't be belting out MOK for the last 2 home games of the season.
If you think that the atmosphere does not effect the players, take a look at the toxic atmosphere (for partially different reasons) at places like Everton
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
The players were not consulted over the financial decisions made by the owner/Board of directors.
To withdraw our vocal support is slapping the faces of the wrong people.
Even if I am the only one stood, scarf aloft pre-kick-off for each half, I will be stood belting out MOK, and voicing my support for good play, sighing at bad play, giving the incompetent officials an ear bashing, and barracking the opposition players at every opportunity.
Of the 2 meaningful protests from us fans, one would be would be to cut-off our noses by not renewing season tickets en-masse.
The other is to boycott the merchandise shop and refuse to pay the rip-off prices for anything in there.
However the Club has to a certain extinct spiked our guns in regard to the first option, by having a waiting list of multiple thousands of saps who will take the place of the current ST holders.
As to the merchandise shop: Larry Lloyd 'em!!!
Edit: there is a 3rd option: no one take a "hospitality package", no-one pay to go on a museum tour, no one purchase food on the concourses or in the club's restaurants. Everyone to partake of pre-match victuals from the cob shop, the chip shop, even 'Spoons!
To withdraw our vocal support is slapping the faces of the wrong people.
Even if I am the only one stood, scarf aloft pre-kick-off for each half, I will be stood belting out MOK, and voicing my support for good play, sighing at bad play, giving the incompetent officials an ear bashing, and barracking the opposition players at every opportunity.
Of the 2 meaningful protests from us fans, one would be would be to cut-off our noses by not renewing season tickets en-masse.
The other is to boycott the merchandise shop and refuse to pay the rip-off prices for anything in there.
However the Club has to a certain extinct spiked our guns in regard to the first option, by having a waiting list of multiple thousands of saps who will take the place of the current ST holders.
As to the merchandise shop: Larry Lloyd 'em!!!
Edit: there is a 3rd option: no one take a "hospitality package", no-one pay to go on a museum tour, no one purchase food on the concourses or in the club's restaurants. Everyone to partake of pre-match victuals from the cob shop, the chip shop, even 'Spoons!
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congo_red_49
Ale Ape
I think Fawaz's family funds being cut-off had more to do with him selling up than the 'pressure'. He'd still be here now, changing direction, making knee-jerk decisions and gaffes if he could afford it.
I've literally just said no other club relies on an atmosphere like this club. A "crutch" is metaphor suggesting the fans are needed to allow the team to function in this league. Apologies - I thought that was self-explanatory as this ideology has been mooted widely within the fan base.
Both Maranakis-boot-lickers and critical thinkers are free to do as they please and should feel no animosity from the other side.
stantonred
First Team Squad
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enlightened
First Team Squad
I see there is to be some sort of protest arranged for the Man City game against the increased ticket prices. I would rather see a Forza display that emphasises the fact that 'small' clubs get charged with FFP irregularities and 'big' clubs are treated differently. Embarrass the EPL as much as we can.