Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
Yep. Pep will drain every bit of of individuality from him and assimilate him into the collective as another Borg drone. Efficient, but boring.
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Omar Marmoush
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Viv Anderson
Nicky Butt was decent, easily as good as Jordan Henderson, and he was part of one of the best Liverpool teams there has ever been.
Plus this ignores the level of competition there was when some of those titles were won. The year he won his last title 90% of those teams would struggle to finish above 14th given the quality around today. I doubt any of them would finish in the top 8 to be honest.
There is also a massive difference between having to spend and being able to spend £X amount. Why would you sign inferior players if you don't have to?
Butt certainly was not the most flair of midfield players, but what’s overlooked is his defensive solidity in Ferguson‘s typical 4-4-2 that allowed the more skilful players like Giggs, Beckham and Scholes to go and do their stuff, as Butt would just sit in front of the defence, screening the back four.
Not a bad base to build from, as I am sure his personal trophy room would tell you!
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
Also the idea that Fergie at Utd wasn’t a cheque book manager.
Man united were huge spenders throughout the 80’s, even though they were shite. That continued through the 90’s and 00’s and dropped off when others started to spend money as well.
They are back to where they were in the 80’s now, spending huge sums but a shambles.
I’m not knocking Fergie, he did a great job at Aberdeen, and the guide United out of the doldrums and win what he did there was huge. But he hardly did it without the cheque book.
Man united were huge spenders throughout the 80’s, even though they were shite. That continued through the 90’s and 00’s and dropped off when others started to spend money as well.
They are back to where they were in the 80’s now, spending huge sums but a shambles.
I’m not knocking Fergie, he did a great job at Aberdeen, and the guide United out of the doldrums and win what he did there was huge. But he hardly did it without the cheque book.
There is some truth in this.
Ferguson of course was greatly favoured by the emergence of the „Class of 92“ (which included the aforementioned Nicky Butt) from their Academy, as that group sustained the club for the rest of the 90s.
Their signing of Roy Keane from Forest for what was then a hefty fee - 3.75m GBP, which sounds peanuts now but was serious cash at the time - was an example of this, he also signed Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke for several millions each.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
He certainly knew how to stick his team with driven characters and leaders. Not all leaders like Keane but players with character who were leaders in their actions on the pitch when the chips were down.
He deserves credit for going with that group of young players, and also apparently for paying attention to the youth academy when he first came in, which later created some top players.
No more so than any other top team at the time. Vastly different to what Pep needs which is 50-100m+ players in every position.
Fergie rebuilt multiple teams across very different generations of football. He still won titles with some very average players - his last title winning team is a very good example.
Fergie rebuilt multiple teams across very different generations of football. He still won titles with some very average players - his last title winning team is a very good example.
Anyway, at the risk of bringing the thread back on track (HA!) my boss, who is from Frankfurt and who is an Eintracht fan, tells me young Omar has apparently nearly doubled his wages in signing for Manchester City.
This is according to fans of Die Adler, anyway.
I think any one of us would find that hard to turn down.
This is according to fans of Die Adler, anyway.
I think any one of us would find that hard to turn down.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
As the management textbooks say, money doesn’t motivate, it merely moves resources.
He may have doubled his money (let me tell you, friends), but he will probably get less than half the game time - for the next 9.5 years.
Footballer gives up football to give himself more time to count his money.
Spot on, and that's the difference.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
Starts today vs Chelsea
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Looks lively.
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Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Man City fans judgement on a £60 million down the toilet:
Cripes: £60 million and has to be taken off after only 74 minutes, without troubling the score-keepers.
Bloody hell, Forest dodged a bullet there, and they oly offered £30 million!.
Already in the Man City Fans bomb squad.
Cripes: £60 million and has to be taken off after only 74 minutes, without troubling the score-keepers.
Bloody hell, Forest dodged a bullet there, and they oly offered £30 million!.
Already in the Man City Fans bomb squad.
Steve Stone’s Brylcreem
First Team Squad
Might have redeemed himself this afternoon
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Dodged a bullet there. He’s dogshit.
Only three goals in the first half?
Only three goals in the first half?
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
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You could have played for a big club!“
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