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Jack Armstrong
The other side will say that it's Nuno's fault if we go down (along with EM) and that if he keeps us up then Coops would have done the same.
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MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Maybe.
Truth is somewhere in the middle that there's a lot of collective failures this season and not a huge amount of positives. It's why we've been near the bottom three since August.
The club would do well with some honest self introspection about the failures so we don't repeat them again.
How could he have not known? Pretty sure most the fans were aware it was highly likely and I’m sure he has more connections than the average fan!
shearstone
Misses the champ
That video just shows how crap his relationship with the fans is. Even the ones singing seemed half-hearted.
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Little bit disingenuous that one Maxi, all I was saying is that few managers have kept teams up after taking over a relegation threatened team.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
There were better ones that I saw but it was the only one I could find with a search
Nothing to do with Chris Hughton being shit? Or was Chris Hughton only shit because Marinakis was getting involved and things would have been different if he stepped away and there would be no need for Cooper? Because that's not really the consensus on here.
I'm not saying Marinakis doesn't get involved, possibly a bit more than he should, but it appears goalposts seem to be moved depending on which manager is being talked about.
Carlos
Massive Member
Do just want to echo here that Chris Hughton was absolutely atrocious. I've seen weather forcasters get it right more often
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Well Hughton himself said he was landed with several players on the last day of the transfer window which he had absolute no knowledge of (one of which was injured), so you can make your own mind up there.
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Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I can certainly think of 2 when Forest were in the Championship,Notcher.
Joe Kinnear (R.I.P.) certainly kept us up in 2004 and I reckon we’d have bitten the dust in
2009 if Billy Davies hadn’t arrived mid-season.
Arguably Mark Warburton made a difference in 2017 as well.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Yeah fair point Cloughie, it's my error on the original post, I meant to say managers in the Premier League
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
I sometimes think that we've changed managers and players so rapidly that I can't remember some of them. I mean, I have a vague recollection of them being at the club, but dates and events just escape me.
It's so useful to have the rest of you to help out on those occasions.
It's so useful to have the rest of you to help out on those occasions.
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Agreed, and remember when we were on the bones of our arse and SoD steadied the ship. Until Fawaz screwed it up.
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Cloughie1975
John Robertson
SoD certainly played a big part in Forest’s survival when he joined Cotterill in 2012-along
with the signing of Guedioura,McCleary hitting form and Portsmouth entering administration.
He was ridiculously sacked by Fawaz with Forest 7th in the Championship the
following season.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Think the story goes that the club didn't know the full scale until a few weeks before the accounts had to be put in due to the PL not advising them one way or the other - not sure how that timescale ties in with the Nuno appointment.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
You'd have to be deliberately ignorant to take the top job at Forest after our very public level of spending and not conclude that at the very least future transfer activity would be severely limited.
Nuno isn't an idiot. He'd have known about his constraints coming into the job and the potential of falling foul of FFP would have been on the list, and points deduction a real possibility given Everton got theirs before he got the job.
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
Big brother Abdulaziz was behind O'Driscoll's sacking more than Fawaz was Cloughie. He was over from Kuwait (where, unlike Fawaz he was primarily based), that Christmas and had been informed that Alex McLeish was ready to get back into management after taking a break following his stint at Aston Villa the season before.
If you recall, Abdulaziz was an acquaintence of Alex Ferguson through Middle Eastern horse-breeding/racing circles and the al-Hasawis sought Fergie's advice when they were considering the Forest takeover, particularly in terms of a potential manager to replace Cotterill. Unsurprisingly, Fergie reommended one of his own, so to speak, in the newly unemployed McLeish. SO'D, who had already been offered the Crawley Town job, thankfully came here when McLeish initially rejected it but then to sack him when McLeish decided that he was ready to take it was nothing less than shameful, as you rightly imply, particularly as it was probably more about pandering to Ferguson.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Great pre-match interview today, good lad.
GreeksBearingGifts
Stuart Pearce
The Everton game is, in my view, winnable. You just have to mix things up. Perhaps three in midfield (for the life of me I cannot understand why Domínguez is not a starter), perhaps Montiel who's a better attacking option than brave Williams (who needs a rest), perhaps something else. You need to absorb Everton's pressure and counter-attack like mad dogs.
mellison99
Youth Team
We will absolutely not win against Everton, probably dominate the game but concede 3 - all of which are from corners.
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RedDogChris
RedDogChris
We seem to have gone back to creating chances/scoring goals playing nice football to go with it but too many individual errors at the back are costing us again.
Nuno hasn't found a way to eek out results like Cooper did at the back end of last season which is unfortunate as I still think we could do with 2 more wins
Nuno hasn't found a way to eek out results like Cooper did at the back end of last season which is unfortunate as I still think we could do with 2 more wins
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Even if Nuno keeps us in the PL, for me he can f*** off in the summer, just for his insistence on playing Divok Origi.
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Tactically outdated with laboured patient football. Zero intensity to win and still clueless on defending set pieces and breaking down deep teams. The first 10 minutes we played high and with intensity and Wolves were shitting it coughing the ball up regularly. We then drop back and allow Wolves to have the ball. Problem is we no longer attack with speed on the counter so it looks like we're being dominated. We threw in the towel at Spurs for that 2nd gear performance today.
Thank f*** for MGW.
Thank f*** for MGW.
Dirk Furtull
John Robertson
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
I really want to know what's happening with our set piece coach. If Nuno still isn't using him, then that has to be a case of one of the most bizarre decisions ever.