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Timothy Pope

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Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
On the contrary, the drug affair was basically handed on a plate to the Greek and Turkish authorities by the DEA, who submitted a huge report with tons of evidence. There's nothing there about EM. Do you think the Americans would take very lightly any such implication of the owner of a company trading in the New York Stock Exchange?

Actually there was, about him taking meetings with an African warlord and heroin producer from the CIA.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
I'm not sure how you've jumped to that conclusion from what I've said? Is everyone out to get him? I don't know and I don't particularly care.

The majority of establishments and millionaires are dirty bastards. I wouldn't worry about our small fish in an ocean of corruption that shits on the little guy as the piranhas try to eat each other.

Because the conversation was about someone repeating unsubstantiated rumours about another owner and my point was there are plenty of those going around about our own.
 

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
none of those links were valid. None. each and every case requires a lot of explaining to you and there is not enough time to do so. to cut the long story short, the previous government run by a perverted coalition of a left party and a populist right party fought him personally and tried to charge him with more than even the worst criminal could be charged. The reasons were mainly political and personal. They wanted Olympiakos to be under their influence since Olympiakos can influence millions of people=voters. They used as vessels a spiderweb of media run or controlled by EM's football rival owners who cooperated in order to bring down Olympiakos who was constantly winning the Greek League. They tapped his phones, they made numerous IRS extensive investigations in all of his businesses, he was blackmailed, he was threatened with imprisoning etc. He fought every single of those accusations and links with every legal tools he had and finally won and is free of everything. During this period, the man almost crashed as a person and was trying to stay on his feet without collapsing. That changed him a lot.

so, allegedly they can all f*** off

So to be clear poor old EM was targeted by unscrupulous owners of other football clubs, the media and political parties but you can confidently say as a Oly fan with no bias whatsoever it's all BS :)

All a bit Donald Trump for me.
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
Why do people keep saying more money. It isn’t the Championship anymore where there is haves and have nots. The only discrepancy is the Champions League sides.

We can compete with palace, the only plus they have is they are an established side.

We have self esteem issues as supporters after 20 years of abuse.
But Rz that's not true. If you stay in the prem for a number of years (not sure how many it is for Palace but its at least 10?), and run your club sensibly rather than using every last penny, you will build up reserves based on actually being in the black year on year rather than the red .I'm not saying it will be huge sums and it won't be enough to every bring you up to the Manchester City level but it does mean that you can afford that little bit more over a club like ours if you think its a good investment.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
But Rz that's not true. If you stay in the prem for a number of years (not sure how many it is for Palace but its at least 10?), and run your club sensibly rather than using every last penny, you will build up reserves based on actually being in the black year on year rather than the red .I'm not saying it will be huge sums and it won't be enough to every bring you up to the Manchester City level but it does mean that you can afford that little bit more over a club like ours if you think its a good investment.
Palace made a 40m loss last year, 57m the year before that.

They have no cash reserves, they spend what they get from TV money like we are doing.
 

karteo

Jack Armstrong
So to be clear poor old EM was targeted by unscrupulous owners of other football clubs, the media and political parties but you can confidently say as a Oly fan with no bias whatsoever it's all BS :)

All a bit Donald Trump for me.
yes me and our Legal System which is not an Olympiakos fan and found that there was nothing in those accusations. Do you know that the man who implicated his name was visited at 2.00 at night by a Greek Minister of Defense for this reason, a man who EM threw him out of a big social event when he was in the past Minister of Maritime because he was a complete jerk?

and you perhaps don't know that our legal system send the case to court just by indications and not evidence.

and since i am an Olympiakos fan and i wanted my team to be owned and run by someone who DOESN'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST connection to drugs i have read ALL the case and followed up on this for years.

i wouldn't give a f*** if he is Olympiakos' owner or not, in case he had anything to do with drugs especially. I would ask for his head on a plate.

because i am an Olympiakos fan i ask for this more. we are not thinking all like perhaps what you have in mind. it's completely undermining to say that we would close our eyes to an owner that has anything to do with drug dealing!
 
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Redemption

One less gobshite...
The Pentagon and the CIA ran a special experiment.

They made a spider read this forum at different times of the year. Then they observed the Spider's Web making skills after 15 mins of reading time.

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Bottom center, its this time of year.
 
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cheapseats

Grenville Morris
Palace made a 40m loss last year, 57m the year before that.

They have no cash reserves, they spend what they get from TV money like we are doing.
OK-good on you for checking before posting, unlike me who couldn't be arsed to google it!

In that case theres no reason they should outbid us and they can f*** off
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
...And if that's right Rz why do we have to put up with that smug mockney Ex chairman forever slagging us (and most others off) on talk radio when his own club clearly can't run a piss up in a brewery....
 

Viktor

Bee Gees Fan Club member #00001
The Pentagon and the CIA ran a special experiment.

They made a spider read this forum at different times of the year. Then they observed the Spider's Web making skills after 15 mins of reading time.

spider_feature.png



Bottom center, its this time of year.
There's a distinct lack of squirrels here so I don't believe it's true.
 

Sal

First Team Squad
Saw three pages of new posts, got excited that we may have signed MGW , but no. Instead, discovered there's actually a New World Order conspiracy of the CIA attempting to frame Marinakos for alleged financial mismanagement of Crystal Palace and administering hallucinogenics to web weaving spiders.

Ok.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
Saw three pages of new posts, got excited that we may have signed MGW , but no. Instead, discovered there's actually a New World Order conspiracy of the CIA attempting to frame Marinakos for alleged financial mismanagement of Crystal Palace and administering hallucinogenics to web weaving spiders.

Ok.
Welcome to LTLF.
 

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
I don't think you said "allegedly" in your original post, apologies if you did I missed it

As I said, nothing proven against EM

Does an allegation from that bastion of honesty the CIA make it true?

My original post was a joke in response to someone talking about allegations with regard to another owner.

Someone then asked what the allegations were, so I listed some.

Then the Greek defence force turned up who swear they've no bias or vested interest lol Quite why they frequent this forum is anyone's guess, well not that it requires much guessing...

And again the CIA comment was in regard to the usual excuse that its some Greek grand conspiracy to bring down this righteous man...I wasn't making a judgement either way, just pointing out the allegations haven't just been Greek.

Every police force, secret service etc has been repugnant at times. Should we totally disregard anything they say?

We've always had people who will defend our owners no matter what; Fawaz, ND (often me), even Wray and Scholar had apologists. This is the first time it's been professional.
 
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