PlayedOnGrass
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Whoever put this timetable of events together is totally clueless
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Financial Fair Play (FFP)
- Thread starter Hawkeye1947
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Whoever put this timetable of events together is totally clueless
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
She looks like the lady in Total Recall that glitches out
stantonred
First Team Squad
Stayed pretty level headed and quiet on this but I've got to say it: It's a load of old bollocks
How does it make any sense? Financial Fair Play, Profitability and Sustainability, whatever they want to dress it as this week.
Basically, if you're one of the "big 6" you can do what the hell you like with zero consequence. But if anyone else finds themselves with a rich owner who likes to spunk his money on a football club, that's against the rules? Let's be honest, not many clubs run at a profit, certainly not if they want to compete at the right end of the Prem. So, to protect the big boys, we all get squashed.
I can see why they'd want to make clubs sustainable to avoid another Bury scenario at the bottom end of the pyramid but if Mr Marinakis wants to throw his money playing footballer top trumps, why not let him? Same with any other owner that buys a club to basically run as a hobby. Newcastle seem to be worrying about FFP when they have probably the richest owners of all, but Chelsea continue to spunk money all over the place to be 10th with no recrimination. Man Utd continue to waste money (£90m for the pointless fidget spinner that is Anthony, £350k a week on Sancho who's gone out on loan, etc)- does anyone see them being told off? And lots not even start on Man City - how the hell are they part of the "big 6"? they were wank for most of their history and were happily plodding around the lower leagues. Timing I guess, same as Chelsea. Got in there before this FFP lark started
It's a broken system. There's no other way of describing it.
Whether we like it or not, it's not a level playing field and we have to question whether it ever has been. Even in the early days of the FA Cup, the old Mill towns in the amateur days were playing ringers and Old Etonians were making up the rules as they went along to suit themselves.
Rant over
How does it make any sense? Financial Fair Play, Profitability and Sustainability, whatever they want to dress it as this week.
Basically, if you're one of the "big 6" you can do what the hell you like with zero consequence. But if anyone else finds themselves with a rich owner who likes to spunk his money on a football club, that's against the rules? Let's be honest, not many clubs run at a profit, certainly not if they want to compete at the right end of the Prem. So, to protect the big boys, we all get squashed.
I can see why they'd want to make clubs sustainable to avoid another Bury scenario at the bottom end of the pyramid but if Mr Marinakis wants to throw his money playing footballer top trumps, why not let him? Same with any other owner that buys a club to basically run as a hobby. Newcastle seem to be worrying about FFP when they have probably the richest owners of all, but Chelsea continue to spunk money all over the place to be 10th with no recrimination. Man Utd continue to waste money (£90m for the pointless fidget spinner that is Anthony, £350k a week on Sancho who's gone out on loan, etc)- does anyone see them being told off? And lots not even start on Man City - how the hell are they part of the "big 6"? they were wank for most of their history and were happily plodding around the lower leagues. Timing I guess, same as Chelsea. Got in there before this FFP lark started
It's a broken system. There's no other way of describing it.
Whether we like it or not, it's not a level playing field and we have to question whether it ever has been. Even in the early days of the FA Cup, the old Mill towns in the amateur days were playing ringers and Old Etonians were making up the rules as they went along to suit themselves.
Rant over
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
She had the whole "two weeks" thing nailed before Andy Reid muscled inShe looks like the lady in Total Recall that glitches out
RedRobbo
Grenville Morris
Speed van?
Permanent ( 60mph ) camera coming down that hill..
Correction: Going up the hill on the way in? Bastards..
Masuka
Jack Burkitt
FFP is bollocks and needs changing but if there was a more foresight with transfers we wouldn’t be in this position anyway.
Can moan about FFP all we want but if we hadn’t wasted so much on dross then we wouldn’t be in this position.
Hopefully we can stay up regardless of the punishment we are given and it is a wake up call to Marinakis etc
Can moan about FFP all we want but if we hadn’t wasted so much on dross then we wouldn’t be in this position.
Hopefully we can stay up regardless of the punishment we are given and it is a wake up call to Marinakis etc
Tobias
Jack Burkitt
I'm not going to form an opinion until I hear what Lewis McGugan has to say about these complex financial regulations.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
You are of course, 100% correct and no complaints from me - we take our punishment.
My problem is even having taken the punishment - the EPL still gets to play god.
SlabSquareHero
A. Trialist
Talk sport just said announcement coming at 4pm
justnotjase
Viv Anderson
If it is an announcement then at least one or both teams are getting charged (or another team not yet mentioned), or why have an announcement to say all teams are compliant.
sammy the snake
Jack Armstrong
Yep. Let’s get it straight though on the EPL
Man City and Chelsea have purchased the silence from other clubs. All EPL clubs sign up to the rules which are there to be manipulated or followed. The EPL is simply a collective of prem clubs despite appearances claiming to be an independent “authority”
Legislation is also good news for Chelsea and Man City, old rules replaced by new rules, will be agreed by every prem league club.. the only moaning is from supporters the see through the very thin layer of duplicity.
vertigored
First Team Squad
Look, 2 seasons ago we got promoted to the epl essentially by mistake.. we had 3 contracted players who could make the step up. We had to go out and buy essentially a full squad that would give us the chance to fight to keep our place, we took gambles on kids and players who had never played in the league before and and had to hope that stevie could get them playing like a team in no time at all!
yes we wasted some money on players but there was always going to be a few duds in the volume that we signed. Should we have paid jlingz 2.5million per week? Probably not but by god can he dance!
all in all we are probably going to get some kind of points deduction for this but I reckon Nuno can get them all firing again and upto safety, if only we could play manu every week…
yes we wasted some money on players but there was always going to be a few duds in the volume that we signed. Should we have paid jlingz 2.5million per week? Probably not but by god can he dance!
all in all we are probably going to get some kind of points deduction for this but I reckon Nuno can get them all firing again and upto safety, if only we could play manu every week…
Dawg
First Team Squad
Think it's pretty clear we're getting charged. I'm just interested to hear what we've done, and by how much we've broken the rules.
Club statement will probably already be prepared.
vertigored
First Team Squad
We don’t deserve a points deduction.. not when there are clubs dropping 80mill on a single player that the6 can afford to bench for half a season or even send out on loan, the systems fooked
WallyBazoom
Yoth Team
sammy the snake
Jack Armstrong
System maybe fooked. But Forest signed up to the rules right?
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
We do if we've broken the rules.
System might be weighted towards certain clubs, but we should be accepting that and being smarter and better anyway.
Football is bent AF and has been for years. That's not an excuse we can hide behind though.
Haych
John Robertson
IMO when someone is promoted unless they have parachute payments the 3 year cycle should start from the first season back in the PL so it’s a even playing field and everyone then has a better chance of staying up.
Of course that’s assuming the PL want newly promoted teams to have a fighting change, which they don’t. They want us to just enjoy our one year at the top getting spanked every week then f*** off for a few years like Norwich.
Of course that’s assuming the PL want newly promoted teams to have a fighting change, which they don’t. They want us to just enjoy our one year at the top getting spanked every week then f*** off for a few years like Norwich.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
They don't want everyone to have a fighting chance.
What they actually want is to pull up the relegation/promotion ladder and slam the drawbridge shut.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
Your rationale doesn't make sense.
You think Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd etc are OK with the Man City/Chelsea situation?
Who decided that Everton were guilty - EPL or the clubs?
Who made the decision to give Everton a 10 point deduction, the EPL or the clubs?
Who will decide if their appeal succeeds, the EPL or the clubs?
Who decides whether we are guilty or not and the level of our punishment?
Morpeth
John Robertson
I’d piss myself if it ends up just being Everton.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
Yes sign this or you are not coming up
Exactly this. What choice do we have when promoted? Without agreeing to it we’d have stayed down.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Hobson's choice
sammy the snake
Jack Armstrong
Or.. they fine Forest the difference between the free we would have rcd, to the one we got..