Redemption
One less gobshite...
I don't see it myself, but i get where you're coming from.
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Tom Cartledge (Chairman)
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Man in charge of a company who will make millions from eg building a new football stadium is all of a sudden in charge of a football club who all of a sudden decide they want to build a new football stadium.
No. There's no conflict of interest there. No no no no no... Nope. None at all. Nope.
carlosmerino
Viv Anderson
It's selfish of me I know but I could walk to toton in 20 minutes across the old railway sidings from long eaton. On the down side I tend to walk the dog up there.
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
Mark my words, this bloke is going to go down in history with Irving, Wray and Scholar.
I expect it from Marinakis, he's an ambitious and ruthless businessman but this bloke has the audacity to call himself a Forest fan and be the front face of all this. The fact that him and his Benoy chums would probably earn a pound note out of this particularly gets my goat up.
If it's a negotiation tactic to get better rates from the Council, just stop f***ing about and pay them. We're basically paying for the increase anyway with how much they've bumped our tickets up.
It's the sort of incompetent ignorance I'd expect from the club under Fawaz, not a club with the experience that it has. When you sit back and consider it, it's actually astonishing how much they've managed to piss the fan base off in the space of eight months.
Said it before, will say it again. I'll take League One football again, at the City Ground over whoring out our history and identity to move us to some metal fruit bowl halfway to Derby. At that point, it's not the club I started supporting in 1994. It's not Nottingham and it's not by the river.
Sacrifice so much of what makes the club special and we'd still only end up 13th.
We could get in the top half of the Premierleague, at the City Ground. Just have to stop making stupid choices. If Bournemouth can manage it with a stadium a third of the size of ours, we can do it.
I expect it from Marinakis, he's an ambitious and ruthless businessman but this bloke has the audacity to call himself a Forest fan and be the front face of all this. The fact that him and his Benoy chums would probably earn a pound note out of this particularly gets my goat up.
If it's a negotiation tactic to get better rates from the Council, just stop f***ing about and pay them. We're basically paying for the increase anyway with how much they've bumped our tickets up.
It's the sort of incompetent ignorance I'd expect from the club under Fawaz, not a club with the experience that it has. When you sit back and consider it, it's actually astonishing how much they've managed to piss the fan base off in the space of eight months.
Said it before, will say it again. I'll take League One football again, at the City Ground over whoring out our history and identity to move us to some metal fruit bowl halfway to Derby. At that point, it's not the club I started supporting in 1994. It's not Nottingham and it's not by the river.
Sacrifice so much of what makes the club special and we'd still only end up 13th.
We could get in the top half of the Premierleague, at the City Ground. Just have to stop making stupid choices. If Bournemouth can manage it with a stadium a third of the size of ours, we can do it.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Could we name it the Dog S**t Stadium?
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Redemption
One less gobshite...
He was put in charge o the football club because he has those skills.
The appointment cancels out the conflict of interest.
carlosmerino
Viv Anderson
I'm just looking forward to Long Eaton market place and high street turning into the avenue from West Bridgeford. Bye savers, Dunelm mill, the corner pin, vapes 4 U, peacocks and CEX, hello generic chain bistro making out your independent, American ale bar charging £7 a pint and a middle class Oxfam. I knew I made the right decision in not moving away, Long Eatoners, our time has come. Roll on the Revolution with uncle Tom at swinging the first scythe. Stock up on the wolf fleeces from Long Eaton Market before it's gone for good.
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
I’m with you Captain, I can just about take the ‘plasticness’ of the EPL, but what is Forest if not the City Ground.
Doesn’t even make me angry, just makes me sad
Wow. Just wow.
Considering that there's only 33 years left and there is the opportunity to secure it for generations, just f***ing pay the difference.
If those numbers are genuine, even as ball parks, then the club are clearly trying to engineer a move.
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
I'd agree intially whilst it was just the redevelopment but once it became clear that there could be an opportunity for a new stadium and he is in situ to potentially guide that outcome it becomes a very clear conflict.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Same here.I’m with you Captain, I can just about take the ‘plasticness’ of the EPL, but what is Forest if not the City Ground.
Doesn’t even make me angry, just makes me sad
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
It's about the owner rather than him surely? Sadly, if Marinakis wants to take us to Toton in a Man City style everything in one place he will. No ones convincing him away to or from what he wants, and he's paid for the privaledge.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
Could you elaborate on what you mean by "cancels out" ?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It's one or the other GP. Either way at this point it's not a good look having him employed as chairman of the club. There's no need for him to have such a role and it leads to suspicions of nefarious intentions. A consultancy role would have sufficed.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
Benoy have been the club's development adviser for 15 years.
The board sets the strategy for this, and from what I hear and read about the board it actually never meets becausr strategy is really set by Marinakis and Kominakis with guidance from Vrentsoz.
I would highly doubt that Cartledge is pulling the wool over their eyes.
I doubt you'll agree, so there's little more to say.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
I don't disagree, but other than sound off there isn't a lot I can do about it. If we leave the city ground I'll be sad, but I'll keep going to wherever's next . Can't imagine all those other clubs wanted to move sites either, but sadly that's 'progress/ambition'. Think when Marinakis talks of being a top English club he means it, and he look at the shiny stadiums and revenues they can bring in and rub his hands together with excitement.
And... Toton would actually suit me logistically - I come off at J25 anyway. Bonus!
(While true I am taking the piss in that last sentence - obviously I'd much rather us stay at the City Ground.)
Redemption
One less gobshite...
I often work in joint ventures with other companies, including as a chairman. Although I'm not the chairman of any of my clients. But I'm there at the table because I bring something very specific to the table, but I'm only there because my company is taking something away from the table too.
But this is done transparently with a high degree of trust. The vested interests have to balance off for the trust to flourish.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
Sorry but that's a load of corporate waffle that explains nothing
Can you explain, specifically, why Tom Cartledge's appointment cancels out any conflict of interest
I'm not after a fight I just genuinely don't understand the point you're trying to make
eyupmeduck
Geoff Thomas
The last chairman was a KC and we couldn't keep within the legal financial framework. Our current chairman is an international property developer and architect and we can't develop our own stadium.
If the next chair should be a catering expert because that's already knackered.
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If the next chair should be a catering expert because that's already knackered.
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Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
I have it on good authority that the next chairman will be a hot running water specialist.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
...but will he contacts at Bowater-Scott?
Any Time Now
Jack Armstrong
Maybe we should try a set piece specialist
Redemption
One less gobshite...
he was appointed by the owner over-riding any possible conflict of interests and placing trust in him to solve Forest's future home.
Consequently, he can be unappointed at any moment.
Do you think that the owners are naive to let him define this without their attention
TrentEndDr
2 Weeks Away
Good thing HS2 was scrapped, otherwise Em would have moved us to Toton already!