Timothy Pope
I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
Exactly a point I made in this thread a couple of days ago. It shouldn’t matter if Young touches the ball - it’s an illegal tackle!!
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
I agree with your final point LR but both things can be true. I'm at the point where I really don't care anymore, the PL is no longer the be all and end all for me. I hope we kick this house of cards all over the place on our way down.
Who cares about the charges? I certainly don't and I don't think the club does. It needed saying, sometimes you have to sacrifice yourself or something to get change. Football is being ruined for fans, the people that actually matter l by incompetence/potential corruption. That's the most important factor for me.
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Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
4 years ago the mainstream media was telling everyone that Covid came from a pangolin and not from a laboratory.
They do what they are paid to do. They have no interest in rocking the boat as far as the EPL is concerned, see the reactions of the paid stooges: Neville, Carragher etc.
Slight change of focus...
The new scourge of premier league football; the tactical head injury.
There were at least two different bollocks head injury claims from Everton where it was in their benefit to stop play and to his credit Taylor played on. Both players were absolutely fine of course.
Despite it upsetting the crowd and Forest not really being sure if they should play on, Taylor playing on was the right thing to do, but this whole situation looks like a tragedy waiting to happen.
When there was an actual head injury, it was pretty clear on the pitch it was a real one and play stopped immediately. Both players staying down probably helped the ref's decision too.
But by players repeatedly faking head injuries, and therefore forcing refs to triage potentially serious injuries at a distance during open play, that genuine head injury could have been waved away as another fake, with potentially serious consequences.
It's clear players are being coached to exploit the rules around head injuries, resulting in more danger to players rather than less, is this on the radar of the authorities, or is it another one to ignore because they can't admit a new rule hasn't worked.
I'm not a doctor but I've been hit in the head plenty of times and if I've had to lie still on the ground for 10 seconds then it has been a concussion. No one should be getting up and carrying on playing.
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The new scourge of premier league football; the tactical head injury.
There were at least two different bollocks head injury claims from Everton where it was in their benefit to stop play and to his credit Taylor played on. Both players were absolutely fine of course.
Despite it upsetting the crowd and Forest not really being sure if they should play on, Taylor playing on was the right thing to do, but this whole situation looks like a tragedy waiting to happen.
When there was an actual head injury, it was pretty clear on the pitch it was a real one and play stopped immediately. Both players staying down probably helped the ref's decision too.
But by players repeatedly faking head injuries, and therefore forcing refs to triage potentially serious injuries at a distance during open play, that genuine head injury could have been waved away as another fake, with potentially serious consequences.
It's clear players are being coached to exploit the rules around head injuries, resulting in more danger to players rather than less, is this on the radar of the authorities, or is it another one to ignore because they can't admit a new rule hasn't worked.
I'm not a doctor but I've been hit in the head plenty of times and if I've had to lie still on the ground for 10 seconds then it has been a concussion. No one should be getting up and carrying on playing.
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Mostly Donkey
Carrot Cruncher
I was thinking that we have previous with him. Well that and he's a bit shite.
I recognise your point.
For Carragher to lecture anybody about ethics when he should have sacked after his spitting incident is disgraceful.
Many in the football media are not dissimilar to agents, they make a living off the back of football. Many of them don’t get the life of a supporter - the real costs and time taken to follow their team. They don’t get the emotional impact. Their press passes and contacts are a million miles away from a real supporter.
However, they are in a very influential position. Many of them do not understand the Forest situation with refereeing and VAR. They have their own bias with no accountability.
Despite our tweet on Sunday nothing will change. If anything, it will harden opinion. PGMOL and PL will further close ranks.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Which in itself highlights the bias/ corruption should this happen. It's almost doing the job for us. Maybe nothing will change but at least we can say we stood up and tried.
Look I’m angry about the refereeing and VAR. I spent thirteen hours going to and from the game on Sunday to witness that refereeing/VAR performance - plenty of time to reflect on events and get wound up.
Yes Forest must stand up and be counted but it’s how we do it.
Instead of tackling it like Wolves did, it’s clear that management and players are too focussed on refereeing decisions to the detriment of winning games.
Hence our predicament.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
Then will be exposed for what they are and we will have succeeded, let them do it, let them expose themselves.
YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
I challenge Neville and Carragher to come to the City Ground on Sunday, and talk to our fans.
uredsuns
Rice 13
This isn’t about the result, we may well go down and look back at several incidents which have cost us games.
At least if we went down and those incidents were given you say fair enough we weren’t good enough, but there is a long line of them have not been given which means we are not even close to being treated fairly, should we just get on with it without so much a whimper?
Maybe we could of released a statement at the end of season instead saying how unfairly we have been treated!!!
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YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
We have Simon Hooper on Sunday, with Peter Bankes on the VAR.
They are keeping Tierney, Attwell, Jones and Taylor out of our sphere.
They are keeping Tierney, Attwell, Jones and Taylor out of our sphere.
Have all the Euro24 refs been announced this morning or just our contribution?
They all have, according to Kicker
UEFA nominiert zwei deutsche EM-Schiris: Siebert überraschend dabei
Die 18 europäischen Schiedsrichtergespanne für die EM 2024 stehen - auch zwei deutsche Referees haben es in das Aufgebot geschafft. Gäste aus Argentinien bilden das 19. Gespann.
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Artur Soares Dias (Portugal)
Jesus Gil Manzano (Spanien)
Marco Guida (Italien)
Istvan Kovacs (Rumänien)
Ivan Kruzliak (Slowakei)
Francois Letexier (Frankreich)
Danny Makkelie (Niederlande)
Szymon Marciniak (Polen)
Halil Umut Meler (Türkei)
Glenn Nyberg (Schweden)
Michael Oliver (England)
Daniele Orsato (Italien)
Sandro Schärer (Schweiz)
Daniel Siebert (Deutschland)
Anthony Taylor (England)
Facundo Tello (Argentinien)
Clement Turpin (Frankreich)
Slavko Vincic (Slowenien)
Felix Zwayer (Deutschland)
Yes, you read that right, Argentinian „guest“ officials.
Felix Zwayer is n excellent official too. Daniel Siebert a bit of a surprise, he had a bit of a shocker in Qatar.
Felix Zwayer is n excellent official too. Daniel Siebert a bit of a surprise, he had a bit of a shocker in Qatar.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
They try not to put refs on the same teams within a 1 month period and they never officiate the same team 2 games on the spin
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
I don't think they do at all. I think it's their arrogance again and a stand by them
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
magicwoand
It tizwas it is
At the very least with this hoo ha that we have made at least we can't possibly ever have Attwell officiating or being on VAR for us. Thats a win for sure.
donny
Grenville Morris
Except when him and Taylor turn up for a match with Groucho nose and glasses on, claiming never to have heard of themselves.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I admire your optimism.
We had Stroud back in charge of us not long after the West Brom debacle a few years ago - and that probably remains the worst single day of refereeing I have ever seen (including this weekend just gone).
magicwoand
It tizwas it is
I don't want to upset you but the 4th official on Sunday was.... Keith Stroud.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Me and Big Dave have sorted the solution.
VAR isn't going to decommissioned - the TV companies who dictate won't allow it.
So, everytime VAR check an incident, the game should be halted and the live audio of the VAR officials should be played over the P.A., whilst the actual video being watched is played IN REAL TIME on the big screens.
That way the spectators can see what is going on, and the on-field officials can too.
Finally, by making this visible in real time, the VAR/PGMOL/EPL/TV comanies should not have time to doctor the video evidence.
It's the only way.
VAR isn't going to decommissioned - the TV companies who dictate won't allow it.
So, everytime VAR check an incident, the game should be halted and the live audio of the VAR officials should be played over the P.A., whilst the actual video being watched is played IN REAL TIME on the big screens.
That way the spectators can see what is going on, and the on-field officials can too.
Finally, by making this visible in real time, the VAR/PGMOL/EPL/TV comanies should not have time to doctor the video evidence.
It's the only way.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
I don't mind Pawson, he's one of the better ones. Can't remember him having a huge impact on us not winning either of those two games.
I don't mind Michael Oliver either.