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Snatchday 1: Nottingham Forest Vs the PGMOL

donny

Grenville Morris
I did notice that the audio of an incident in El Clasico from Sunday night has been released, where VAR couldn't give a goal due to the lack of goal line technology.

Has anyone released ours yet?
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
It's interesting how Nuno puts his thoughts across here. He says that referees aren't taking the decisions on the pitch and waiting for VAR to make the decision and then says "that isn't helping" followed up by "and I won't go further than that".

He clearly thinks there's more to this and I remember at the time thinking that Cooper seemed to too without actually saying it.

 

weejockmcplop

Geoff Thomas
It's interesting how Nuno puts his thoughts across here. He says that referees aren't taking the decisions on the pitch and waiting for VAR to make the decision and then says "that isn't helping" followed up by "and I won't go further than that".

He clearly thinks there's more to this and I remember at the time thinking that Cooper seemed to too without actually saying it.
That's exactly what I've been saying.
VAR gives refs permission to be cowardly and shirk responsibility for making decisions.
Then if you add to that what Mike Dean said about VAR not wanting to embarrass their ref mates you have a recipe for utter failure.
Its so stupid.
 

HappyHappyJoyJoy

Viv Anderson
It's interesting how Nuno puts his thoughts across here. He says that referees aren't taking the decisions on the pitch and waiting for VAR to make the decision and then says "that isn't helping" followed up by "and I won't go further than that".

He clearly thinks there's more to this and I remember at the time thinking that Cooper seemed to too without actually saying it.

Nuno struggled to hide his contempt for the dumb questions from the YTS lad with the squeaky voice at the end
 

wrexhamred

Youth Team
No there isnt a direct accusation but saying someone is a Luton fan is making out that there is a problem with that. Of course you cant have fans of teams actually reffing teams they support. However in the VAR booth its rather different. Take cricket or rugby in internationals you will get Englishman in the VAR positions on England games. I think it was so obvious what Forest were doing and I am with you id rather be called corrupt than shit 😂😂😂

PS WrexhamRed Im sat in the Industrial Estate about to get a Bics Chicks for lunch. Weather is great today!!

The weather is great if you're an albino vampire :LOL:
I drive past Bick's Chicks regularly, never tried their snack van but I hear good things about it, I'll have to try it some time, when I'm not on a diet (so probably never....middle age spread has hit with a vengeance 😭)

All that I can see is the PGMOL & their cronies muddying the waters & trying to deflect the issue back at Forest with their gaslighting. It stinks of a guilty conscience.
I'm immensely proud of my club having the balls to do this regardless of the outcome.

Power to the people, Vive la révolution etc etc
 
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Chappers85

Can't Play Left-Back
It's interesting how Nuno puts his thoughts across here. He says that referees aren't taking the decisions on the pitch and waiting for VAR to make the decision and then says "that isn't helping" followed up by "and I won't go further than that".

He clearly thinks there's more to this and I remember at the time thinking that Cooper seemed to too without actually saying it.

That's exactly what I've been saying.
VAR gives refs permission to be cowardly and shirk responsibility for making decisions.
Then if you add to that what Mike Dean said about VAR not wanting to embarrass their ref mates you have a recipe for utter failure.
Its so stupid.
Exactly. It's easy to give a decision in favour of Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City etc... Then you're not the bad guy if VAR overrules it (which they rarely will). But then they don't give decision for Forest, Wolves etc... and VAR shrugs its shoulders and goes "not clear and obvious", but had they given it they wouldn't overturn either. Refs think they have this safety net for mistakes, but really it just enables their cowardice.
 

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
Ah, I remember the famous chant levelled at him, from the Trent End:

„Peter, Shilton,
Peter Shilton!
Does your wife know that you‘re here?
Does your wife know that you‘re here!“
The game after that incident was against Arsenal and the whole North Bank sang, as he came out, "Who were you with last night, under..."etc.
 

vertigored

First Team Squad
No there isnt a direct accusation but saying someone is a Luton fan is making out that there is a problem with that. Of course you cant have fans of teams actually reffing teams they support. However in the VAR booth its rather different. Take cricket or rugby in internationals you will get Englishman in the VAR positions on England games. I think it was so obvious what Forest were doing and I am with you id rather be called corrupt than shit 😂😂😂

PS WrexhamRed Im sat in the Industrial Estate about to get a Bics Chicks for lunch. Weather is great today!!
Didn’t the interview with the former head of refs say that they used to check the allegiances and avoid obvious match ups especially around the relegation and top of the table clashes but that has been disregarded by the current head of the refs?
so surely us pointing out something to them that they used to do isn’t actually that bad, just highlighting they need to be better.
 

Lefkasman

Ian Bowyer
The best bit about that was watching how all the countries voted because of political and conflict allegiances/differences
Sat and watched it in a student pub in Leicester once. There were people there from loads of different countries, it was a great night. Wogan, with his dry wit made it.

Sent from my 23124RA7EO using Tapatalk
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
Sat and watched it in a student pub in Leicester once. There were people there from loads of different countries, it was a great night. Wogan, with his dry wit made it.

Sent from my 23124RA7EO using Tapatalk
Yeah his sarcasm at the voting was hilarious. He'd call exactly who they were gonna give nil and 10 points to every time.
 

youreds1986

Geoff Thomas
As someone that spends thousands every season following Forest, I'm now asking why I can't hear the VAR audio from last weeks game?

Exactly what have the PGMOL got to hide? Why nearly a week later, has this not been released? Why is Attwell still being allowed to officiate games? Why is Howard Webb still in a job?

Something isn't right, so as a fan/customer, show me and the other thousands, some respect and get the audio released. We live in a digital age, so it should be so simple.

Its obvious that the EPL and Sky didn't want Everton to go down. It suits Sky to have two Merseyside derbies, and relegation could well have meant administration for Everton.

I just feel like myself and all the other Forest plans are being taken for mugs here.
Its so obvious the PL don't want Everton relegated that they gave them two separate points deductions...
 

vertigored

First Team Squad
It’s inappropriate because he supports a team that is directly affected by the result of this match. It would be appropriate if he were not in charge of any decisions that could effect the outcome of the match so as to avoid any question on his integrity should he get something massively wrong.

im not sure how this is hard to see? Or am I missing something?

if he gets all the decisions correct to the laws of the game then it ends there, if he doesn’t then it is all left open to accusations.
 

Col Steve Austin

Viv Anderson
No there isnt a direct accusation but saying someone is a Luton fan is making out that there is a problem with that. Of course you cant have fans of teams actually reffing teams they support. However in the VAR booth its rather different. Take cricket or rugby in internationals you will get Englishman in the VAR positions on England games. I think it was so obvious what Forest were doing and I am with you id rather be called corrupt than shit 😂😂😂

PS WrexhamRed Im sat in the Industrial Estate about to get a Bics Chicks for lunch. Weather is great today!!
If it's in PGMOL's own rules (declaration of allegiance, not being involved in matches that impact on that allegiance), surely we were simply pointing out to them that their rules weren't being complied with?
 
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