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Financial Fair Play (FFP)

ubik

ubik

Geoff Thomas
Irish Wolf said:
Can't explain why but I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Villa.

I think the media have done them a disservice this year. Look at how well they have done, where they are in the table etc and you hardly hear about it.

They're more interested in how many time Ten Hag pulled himself off the day before.
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My dad was a Villa fan. He got a job lecturing at Clifton Teacher Training College and we moved to Radcliffe. He took me to watch Forest.

He took a small wooden stool for me to stand on (health and safety would have a fit; pretty sure it was involved in the surges at the Trent End when we beat Man U 3-1 with 50,000 in the ground).

He played amateur league football for Bramcote Methodists at this time. He was in his school cricket and football teams at an absurdly young age, so could potentially have been a top class footballer, but he never pushed me to develop sporting abilities. He did show me how to bowl leg breaks.

I did eventually have my moment of glory in the late 1980s when the Elm Tree darts team started playing on the Forest on Sunday mornings, jumpers for goalposts, and I scored five in the first half one time.

Just realised that Monday is 100 years since my dad was born.
 
RedRobbo

RedRobbo

Grenville Morris
Villa_Fan said:
That would be a silly thing for the PL to do. That would cause so much negative PR, they should wait till u guys have confirmed PL safety before announcing it.
Its quite ironic that the governing body of a football organisation scores so many own goals but as Oscar Wilde said 'Irony is wasted on the stupid'
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So everyone demands that any penalties are awarded / communicated with all due haste.
And now you suggest that these are held back?
The PL - already on a sticky wicket - are damned whatever they do ( not that I wish to be their apologist ).
 
HBB

HBB

Jack Burkitt
Well as ever it looks like they'll wait until after the round of fixtures to announce so expect the announcement sometimes Sunday evening/night. I wouldn't be surprised to get a point back but I also wouldn't be surprised to get nothing - either way it could all be on the Chelsea game, so many permutations but at least we'll now how it stands with Luton and Burnley having already played.
 
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ForestWon

First Team Squad
They'll announce decision Tuesday morning most likely, as that's then after the round of fixtures with being a Monday evening game. + Monday is a bank holiday....
 
justnotjase

justnotjase

Viv Anderson
Could be totally misreading it, but all the rhetoric points to at least one point back for us. Seems to have been lot of reporting of our appeal decision and that it could effectively relegate Burnley.
 
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andyd

First Team Squad
justnotjase said:
Could be totally misreading it, but all the rhetoric points to at least one point back for us. Seems to have been lot of reporting of our appeal decision and that it could effectively relegate Burnley.
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I’d argue that Vincent Kompany knows it too based on his post game interview. Edwards too seemed far less bullish and their keeper going up for late corners suggested to me a desperation that had more behind it than solely a worry we’d beat Sheffield United.
 
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ForestWon

First Team Squad
Yeah: also got gut feeling be getting a point back, partly as bit surprising Luton keeper went up for late corner. Luton do have 2 winnable games left, against 2 London teams who are effectively on the beach and may not be trying that hard... (West Ham certainly weren't in their last match)
 
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YouReds43

First Team Squad
ForestWon said:
Yeah: also got gut feeling be getting a point back, partly as bit surprising Luton keeper went up for late corner. Luton do have 2 winnable games left, against 2 London teams who are effectively on the beach and may not be trying that hard... (West Ham certainly weren't in their last match)
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West Ham last game finished 2-2 against Liverpool, is that on the beach?
 
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ForestWon

First Team Squad
Sorry meant game b4, V Palace, and shouldn't of really said "on beach" comment, and also as are playing for top 7/8th place finish and European place...
 
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andyd

First Team Squad
Last home game of the season for West Ham and likely last one for Moyes as manager. He’s actually been a great servant to them and there is zero chance they want him going out with a whimper. They’re still playing for European football next season as top 7 will get spots. I really don’t understand why anyone thinks West Ham won’t be right up for that game. Fulham playing away on the last day might not have their heart fully in it, I just don’t see that from West Ham next week though. A team that ran Bayer Leverkusen close aren’t closing their home season with a meagre surrender to Luton Town.
 
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Buckeye

Ze List #276
I lived in Birmingham for a while and struggled to bond with the place, but one year I bought a ST for Villa to see if it helped. Turned out to be a really good season under MoN with half the England squad in the first team, Carling Cup Final, saw away wins at Man U and Liverpool. Think they finished 5th or 6th. I had my ST with Forest that year too and amazingly the only day they nearly clashed was a lunchtime kick off V Chelsea for Villa and an evening kick off V Newcastle for us. Both homes wins, hell of a day.

Found them to be a great club and a decent set of genuine fans, people around me knew I was a Forest fan and were fine with it!

Turns out I hated living in Birmingham because it was a shithole, so I moved back to Nottingham 🤣
 
Robertson

Robertson

Geoff Thomas
Just in general I think the on the beach thing is probably bollocks when it comes to team’s last home games of the season. Fans, players and coaches alike want to sign off with a good showing regardless of who they are playing and what their league position is.

Away games on the other hand, worry me. Which is why we shouldn’t expect anything from Fulham at Luton on the final say.
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
Robertson said:
Just in general I think the on the beach thing is probably bollocks when it comes to team’s last home games of the season. Fans, players and coaches alike want to sign off with a good showing regardless of who they are playing and what their league position is.

Away games on the other hand, worry me. Which is why we shouldn’t expect anything from Fulham at Luton on the final say.
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I agree that West Ham won’t want to be turned over in their final game at home.
I don’t agree that Fulham will be easy meat-they have better players than Luton and I’m sure
they will want to end the season on a high.
 
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Est.1865

WFCG
justnotjase said:
Could be totally misreading it, but all the rhetoric points to at least one point back for us. Seems to have been lot of reporting of our appeal decision and that it could effectively relegate Burnley.
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I thought the managers of both Luton and Burnley appeared more pissed off by the subject than usual. They must have heard chatter IMO.
 
Rubics

Rubics

Bin VAR!
West Ham have cancelled the customary end of season lap of the pitch next weekend. Reason given - disappointing season and the fans want moyes gone. This is apparently due to a survey of season ticket holders saying they will not renew if moyes stays and Sullivan shitting himself about renewal rates.
My season ticket mate there is disgusted by this - he wasn’t surveyed and thinks it’s massively disrespectful to Moyes + a massive gamble for them next season.
They’re not a happy camp at the moment.
 
Erik

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
If we get points back it doesn't really matter how many we get. 1 or 2 means Luton have to win their last 2 games by big margins to even have a chance of overhauling us. A token 1 point will suffice for our needs. Even getting nothing means Luton need at least a point at West Ham.
 
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Villa_Fan

First Team Squad
RedRobbo said:
So everyone demands that any penalties are awarded / communicated with all due haste.
And now you suggest that these are held back?
The PL - already on a sticky wicket - are damned whatever they do ( not that I wish to be their apologist ).
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I don't believe Forest will get any points back, but I am not saying they should delay communicating the outcome of the appeal I am saying it would be silly to communicate a return of points to Forest if this resulted in a team being relegated. If Forest is to get points back it should have been communicated before this set of fixtures or after Forest secure PL status. Making an announcement on Tue that relegates Luton and Burnley would be very naive
 
Redemption

Redemption

One less gobshite...
Villa_Fan said:
Making an announcement on Tue that relegates Luton and Burnley would be very naive
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Given this likelihood would persist to the end of the season, are you saying that the announcement should not come until the end of the season?
 
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YouReds43

First Team Squad
Villa_Fan said:
I don't believe Forest will get any points back, but I am not saying they should delay communicating the outcome of the appeal I am saying it would be silly to communicate a return of points to Forest if this resulted in a team being relegated. If Forest is to get points back it should have been communicated before this set of fixtures or after Forest secure PL status. Making an announcement on Tue that relegates Luton and Burnley would be very naive
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I’m saying that the Clubs already know. Everyone saw Luton’s disappointment on Friday. 2pts back is not naive as both clubs should be down already. In the Premier League there are no morals.
 
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Est.1865

WFCG
Got to be honest, it would be great if we have been able to prove that the PL severely misadvised us along the way on our FFP situation. If we’ve been in constant dialogue, and they’ve pulled the rug on certain aspects at the 11th hour.
 
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