Tom Cartledge (Ex-Chairman)

[PlayedOnGrass]

You've been quite aggressively demanding a 'yes/no' answer to something that isn't as straightforward as yes/no unless you just want to have a pop at people who say 'yes'.

No.

Because the ticket prices across the league should be broadly similar although some clubs will charge much more than the average and some less. There is no real reason why Forest should be at either end of that scale. Having said that, there is no real reason why they shouldn't be either.

And

Yes.

Because the actual revenue gained from the increase is tiny compared to the overall income of the club. What needs to be done is to increase matchday revenue, which means sales in the ground - Improved facilities (which is a whole different argument) would enable to do this far better than hiking the cost of getting in to the ground.
Forest are not one of the big clubs, they need to maximise every angle they can to stay in the league and one of the biggest of these is the atmosphere and fantastic support generated by those long standing fanatical supporters, a good number of whom were there in the dark days of League 1. That support has been enough to lift the team to get points which were not expected over the last two years so there is a strong argument to say that keeping prices low has little impact in terms of off field income but a huge impact on on field results because it keeps that passionate fanbase in situ for as long as the club needs them.

At the moment it's on pitch results that matter more than an extra £5m in gate receipts and I think that getting that extra revenue by charging long standing loyal supporters more is taking the easy way out when investing a bit of money in catering and other facilities will bring in more in the long term. If you can encourage people to spend £10 a game inside the ground you've effectively increased the price of the ticket by almost £200 without alienating a single soul.

Up to you whether you consider that a 'yes' or a 'no'. I've given arguments for both answers and leave it to you to decide which is the stronger one.

Apologies, if this has come across aggressive - it was not meant to be that way - perhaps the way I worded the question was confusing

I was just trying to gauge opinion. There has been a lot of stick flying at the club in general and Uncle Tom specifically about the new cost of the Season cards. I fully understand that it could have been handled better by the club. This wasn't my question though.

The question was relevant to the actual Season Card price. With the 25% rise we are broadly in line with the cheapest Season Cards, which means if we had only raised our prices by 5% - then we would be broadly 20% cheaper than Bournemouth for example.

Perhaps the question should have been -
Do we think that Forest should be putting themselves at a financial disadvantage to everyone else by selling our Season cards cheaper than everyone less?

 

[Strummer]

Sounds like a question more relevant to our old mate:

 

[Strummer]

 

[congo_red_49]

Do we think that Forest should be putting themselves at a financial disadvantage to everyone else by selling our Season cards cheaper than everyone less?

No. But I also believe in value for money - and, in line with other industries, if they want to increase prices then I believe they need to invest in the currently poor facilities and amenities to justify said increase.

 

[RedRobbo]

Just communicate with the fans ( sorry - customers )

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

Spiderman?

Come on guys - Whats the joke?

 

[David!]

Come on guys - Whats the joke?

Someone slated Fawaz on twitter (i believe?) and Fawaz replied "Ok Spiderman". I think that's the origin...

 

[EmmersonForest4]

No. But I also believe in value for money - and, in line with other industries, if they want to increase prices then I believe they need to invest in the currently poor facilities and amenities to justify said increase.

However Congo they invest in the squad which is what you are watching. Its not like the club is making money, they are haemoriging money left right and centre. So thats what I say Fan groups are not treating the actual problem by just complaining about ticket prices. They are a symptom of a market and industry where the costs are astronomical and are not dealt with properly by regulation from the industry. I beleive working class kids should earn a fortune but capping it a little isnt a problem theyd stil be rich beyond measure. Also clubs need to share revneue between them. I agree this has to be done around the globe but this is where fan groups should unite.

 

[Strummer]

Someone slated Fawaz on twitter (i believe?) and Fawaz replied "Ok Spiderman". I think that's the origin...

There’s a little more to it - the guy giving him pelters had Spider-Man as his profile pic.

Hence „Ok Spiderman“ and there was absolutely no comeback to that.

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

There’s a little more to it - the guy giving him pelters had Spider-Man as his profile pick.

Hence „Ok Spiderman“ and there was absolutely no comeback to that.

I only really started using social media a couple of years ago when I went part time at work - so this was well before my time

 

[Flaggers]

Its a geniune question -
Do you think that Forest should charge 15%-20% less than all of the other clubs in the EPL to watch their team play against all the same opponents

Well, since in both seasons we've finished below 80% of the rest of the league...........

 

[congo_red_49]

However Congo they invest in the squad which is what you are watching.

There needs to be some balance though.
If I go to the Cinema and watch a multi-million pound, critically acclaimed blockbuster - but the seats are wooden and rotten, there's no running water, the toilets stink and the popcorn is mouldy - I'm not going back to watch next week's movie for 5% more than last weeks.

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

There needs to be some balance though.
If I go to the Cinema and watch a multi-million pound, critically acclaimed blockbuster - but the seats are wooden and rotten, there's no running water, the toilets stink and the popcorn is mouldy - I'm not going back to watch next week's movie for 5% more than last weeks.

You are right there does - but we can go full circle - spend the money on the ground and not the team and we are paying top dollar for Championship football. Then we would have something to moan about.

The more I think about it and read between the lines - we are moving - I don't know where.
How much do you invest in something that is going to be knocked down in the next few of years?

 

[Strummer]

Well, since in both seasons we've finished below 80% of the rest of the league...........

I thought your degree was in electronics, not economics?

 

[congo_red_49]

The club should give you a job in fan relations. You have the right attitude for it.

 

[Strummer]

„Don't like it? Then f*** off, we’ve got 11 thousand other mugs who’ll take your spot!“

- Redders, in his new job, possibly.

 

[Any Time Now]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841138591344574501

He's gone

 

[Berkshire Red]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841138591344574501

He's gone

And Randall is back. Odd.

 

[Harry1982]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841138591344574501

He's gone

And Randall is back in, make of that what you will

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Good

 

[youreds1986]

I mean I’m not sad to see him go.

But all a bit odd

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

Won't be missed.