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The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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Lady Penelope

First Team Squad
Thanks for your engagement following my post.

I’ve overseen many projects, and been responsible for delivery of programmes containing many individual projects.

The bane of my life was posturing from various parties about who has been responsible for delays or non-delivery of projects.

My comments are made as a dedicated home and away Forest supporter.

This project came forward as a statement of intent from our owners in 2019 when we were a Championship club. Many of us took the time and trouble to view the plans on display in the BC Stand. We gave our views and support for the proposals.

Many of us knew that delivering this project would be very challenging - especially the planning and funding issues.

Our club regularly reminds supporters of its commitment to the project and its spend of more £2m on preparatory work.

I‘m not interested in apportioning blame, my objective is to see the project come to fruition and provide the much needed additional capacity and enhanced facilities.

Five years without a spade being turned and no clue as to our future location, is too long. The financial impact on scheme costs are huge.

Only recently has the issue of the lease renewal been made clear.

Supporters deserve clarity on the proposals - we don’t need a running commentary on detail, we respect that there are areas of confidentiality.

To the Club I say please be honest with us.

I‘m fortunate that my home seats are secure for every game, and I’m a Priority Plus away member (the 400 Club), but we owe it to those many supporters who can’t afford season tickets to give them a better chance for them (and their kids) to see the Reds in action.

Hopefully our Chairman is meeting with those organisations who can ensure delivery of the project to properly upgrade the WFCG and provide the facilities and capacity our supporters deserve.
Well said
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
I too, have overseen many projects, and I am thoroughly convinced based on decades of experience, that in some way, Nottingham Forest will find a way to make an absolute bollocks of even the most simple of things.
 

redforest

Geoff Thomas
It also the reason people rank us highly as an away day. The ability to get off the train, have a few jars on the walk to the ground and watch the game, the same as many home fans.

The only people that seem in favour of this new stadium miles away seem to be those that don't live in Nottingham, those that don't go to games and those that would find it more convenient because its closer to their house.

Who want to sit in a Harvesters pub on an away day? Nobody.
If only the trains were any good. I would happily get the train down from York if a. I didn’t have to change at least once b. It didn’t cost a fortune, around £60 return each for 3 of us and c. It didn’t take 2 and a half hours plus travel to the station in York

So I mostly drive which is also fairly unpleasant, fortunately the experience once in the City Ground is of course outstanding…
 

Morpeth

John Robertson
If only the trains were any good. I would happily get the train down from York if a. I didn’t have to change at least once b. It didn’t cost a fortune, around £60 return each for 3 of us and c. It didn’t take 2 and a half hours plus travel to the station in York

So I mostly drive which is also fairly unpleasant, fortunately the experience once in the City Ground is of course outstanding…
The trains are awesome where I live. On Monday I got a Lumo train with the wife and child from Kings Cross to Morpeth with the only stop inbetween being Newcastle. The stop after Morpeth was Edinburgh Waverley where the train got just 4 hours and 4 mins after leaving London. £102 all in.

But you’re right, I’d rather walk to Nottingham than get any train not on the East Coast Main Line.
 

redforest

Geoff Thomas
The trains are awesome where I live. On Monday I got a Lumo train with the wife and child from Kings Cross to Morpeth with the only stop inbetween being Newcastle. The stop after Morpeth was Edinburgh Waverley where the train got just 4 hours and 4 mins after leaving London. £102 all in.

But you’re right, I’d rather walk to Nottingham than get any train not on the East Coast Main Line.
You are spot on regarding the East Coast line where, yesterday, I got a day return to Edinburgh for less that the equivalent to Nottingham and it took, roughly the same time! Nottingham is on a side track though 😡
 

Morpeth

John Robertson
You are spot on regarding the East Coast line where, yesterday, I got a day return to Edinburgh for less that the equivalent to Nottingham and it took, roughly the same time! Nottingham is on a side track though 😡
We are indeed fortunate in that regard. I’m from Durham originally so me and my mates regularly do Edinburgh, York, Durham, Morpeth or Newcastle for a catch up.

To get to Nottingham it’s 2 or 3 changes in Newcastle and Derby or Newark x2 for me. Return is Newark and Newcastle or Sheffield and York with timings of up to 4.5 hours. I’d rather drive for a quarter of the price and I wouldn’t even be tempted to have a crap pint either.
 

Louth Red

First Team Squad
I’ll post separately on this but I owe my life to Brighton and Hove Albion FC when I had a cardiac arrest outside the ground on Tuesday 22nd October, 2022. I’ve worked with them and SJA on several initiatives to promote CPR and defibrillator awareness since. I’ve also made lifetime friendships with some Brighton colleagues.

Last Sunday they offered me boardroom hospitality for two, which I declined; and they arranged a half-time interview in the Directors Box with those who saved my life. This was projected on the big screen - hence my comment. You can see the video on the Brighton website.

Brighton and its staff are exceptional - their CEO was recently the PL CX of the year, and last year received an MBE for services to football. I know from our conversations that he leads from the top.

This is a club who played home games at Gillingham, then the Withdean - a 6,000 capacity rundown athletics stadium, before delivering a 31,000 capacity stadium from scratch. They have saved seven lives from cardiac arrest since opening the stadium - a 100% success rate against odds of 2.1billion to one.
 

Morpeth

John Robertson
I’ll post separately on this but I owe my life to Brighton and Hove Albion FC when I had a cardiac arrest outside the ground on Tuesday 22nd October, 2022. I’ve worked with them and SJA on several initiatives to promote CPR and defibrillator awareness since. I’ve also made lifetime friendships with some Brighton colleagues.

Last Sunday they offered me boardroom hospitality for two, which I declined; and they arranged a half-time interview in the Directors Box with those who saved my life. This was projected on the big screen - hence my comment. You can see the video on the Brighton website.

Brighton and its staff are exceptional - their CEO was recently the PL CX of the year, and last year received an MBE for services to football. I know from our conversations that he leads from the top.

This is a club who played home games at Gillingham, then the Withdean - a 6,000 capacity rundown athletics stadium, before delivering a 31,000 capacity stadium from scratch. They have saved seven lives from cardiac arrest since opening the stadium - a 100% success rate against odds of 2.1billion to one.
I watched footage of your heart attack and the subsequent help you received on something like the One Show or whatever it was, as well as seeing it elsewhere for learning purposes.

They really were very good and not just proactive in helping out, but the preventative measure of having defibrillators dotted around is brilliant.

Well done for doing the work on promoting those initiatives too. The odds you quote really do hit home how vital they can be.
 

Louth Red

First Team Squad
I watched footage of your heart attack and the subsequent help you received on something like the One Show or whatever it was, as well as seeing it elsewhere for learning purposes.

They really were very good and not just proactive in helping out, but the preventative measure of having defibrillators dotted around is brilliant.

Well done for doing the work on promoting those initiatives too. The odds you quote really do hit home how vital they can be.
Thanks Morpeth.

Not splitting hairs but whilst heart attacks are very serious, cardiac arrest is when the heart stops and blood does not flow. Defibrillators cause the heart to restart.

i knew nothing about this prior to a heart attack in 2012 and the cardiac arrest ten years later.

Incidentally I‘ve just been involved with a SJA project to promote awareness of cardiac arrest in women - they have a success rate of 8% compared to men at 10%. The simple reason is that the first action required is removal of all upper clothing to start compressions. Many men are scared of the reaction to doing that in public.
 

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Thanks Morpeth.

Not splitting hairs but whilst heart attacks are very serious, cardiac arrest is when the heart stops and blood does not flow. Defibrillators cause the heart to restart.

i knew nothing about this prior to a heart attack in 2012 and the cardiac arrest ten years later.
I was not aware if this distinction, so useful.
Incidentally I‘ve just been involved with a SJA project to promote awareness of cardiac arrest in women - they have a success rate of 8% compared to men at 10%. The simple reason is that the first action required is removal of all upper clothing to start compressions. Many men are scared of the reaction to doing that in public.
Incredible. Understandable, culturally, but incredible that it can shape life and death decisions.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Thanks Morpeth.

Not splitting hairs but whilst heart attacks are very serious, cardiac arrest is when the heart stops and blood does not flow. Defibrillators cause the heart to restart.

i knew nothing about this prior to a heart attack in 2012 and the cardiac arrest ten years later.

Incidentally I‘ve just been involved with a SJA project to promote awareness of cardiac arrest in women - they have a success rate of 8% compared to men at 10%. The simple reason is that the first action required is removal of all upper clothing to start compressions. Many men are scared of the reaction to doing that in public.
I posted in the thread about Defibrilators Louth Red, we have them in all our office buildings, and you can go and get free training in their use, and it is encouraged that you do so, „just in case“.

We have already had a case of one colleague’s life being saved by a defibrillator when in the office, because someone was able to get to one and put it to its intended use.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
I’ll post separately on this but I owe my life to Brighton and Hove Albion FC when I had a cardiac arrest outside the ground on Tuesday 22nd October, 2022. I’ve worked with them and SJA on several initiatives to promote CPR and defibrillator awareness since. I’ve also made lifetime friendships with some Brighton colleagues.

Last Sunday they offered me boardroom hospitality for two, which I declined; and they arranged a half-time interview in the Directors Box with those who saved my life. This was projected on the big screen - hence my comment. You can see the video on the Brighton website.

Brighton and its staff are exceptional - their CEO was recently the PL CX of the year, and last year received an MBE for services to football. I know from our conversations that he leads from the top.

This is a club who played home games at Gillingham, then the Withdean - a 6,000 capacity rundown athletics stadium, before delivering a 31,000 capacity stadium from scratch. They have saved seven lives from cardiac arrest since opening the stadium - a 100% success rate against odds of 2.1billion to one.
Thanks for that update LR, and here's hoping that you remain in good health.
 

It's Baggio

John Robertson
Apparently the floodlights are going back up in the TE/PT corner.

No idea what this means for the development of the hospitality units either side of the Trent End.
 

bloodred

First Team Squad
So, what do we want our future to be ? A run of the mill premier league club playing in a moderately small stadium in a lovely setting ? Or a club with a chance of challenging for honours in a much larger stadium and the infrastructure to enable the funds to support it ? With the PSR rules changing o the UEFA model this is the choice the club have to address. My view has changed recently and after my 60+ years at the old girl(WFCG) regrettably it is time to move on. Hopefully not Toton though but somewhere closer to the city.......your thoughts ?
 
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Quntib Hollox

Jack Armstrong
So, what do we want our future to be ? A run of the mill premier league club playing in a moderately small stadium in a lovely setting ? Or a club with a chance of challenging for honours in a much larger stadium and the infrastructure to enable the funds to support it ? With the PSR rules changing in the near future to Eufa model this is the choice the club have to address. My view has changed recently and after my 60+ years at the old girl(WFCG) regrettably it is time to move on. Hopefully not Toton though but somewhere closer to the city.......your thoughts ?
If we can get over all the hurdles with the council and the boat clubs etc. and guarantee a 40k City ground within 3/4 years then thats probably the option that keeps most people happy. If we don’t get agreement very soon then looking elsewhere needs to rapidly step up in pace.
 

bloodred

First Team Squad
If we can get over all the hurdles with the council and the boat clubs etc. and guarantee a 40k City ground within 3/4 years then thats probably the option that keeps most people happy. If we don’t get agreement very soon then looking elsewhere needs to rapidly step up in pace.
The word is that to be in with a shout of actually being able to compete clubs will need a capacity of 55k. Whether any team in the East Midlands has that drawing power is questionable but that appears to be the way the super (closed shop) and its elite top six is going.
 

Fitzcarraldo

Ian Storey-Moore
The hold up is EM searching for players with the appropriate names that allow him to hide one or two signings in the construction costs.

Currently looking at Kemar Roofe, Jason Steele, MBembe Corrugated-Panels and, Tariq Lampshade.
 

Lady Penelope

First Team Squad
Apparently the floodlights are going back up in the TE/PT corner.

No idea what this means for the development of the hospitality units either side of the Trent End.
Probably just relocating the pylon. I always thought that it would be difficult to get all those lights suitably re-positioned atop the stands because the PT roof is relatively low.

Once again though, the club must realise that people are interested in stuff like this, yet it continues to communicate like Sunak on weed i.e. not very well at all.
 
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