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The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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Flaggers

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Dex

A. Trialist
Same. And the height of those white ends walls on each stand. Just got to be equal heights.
Glad I'm not the only one getting iratated by the high wall on the edge of the Clough Stand.
I've always struggled with a straight edge going down from the Trent end roof and a slanted one on the Clough. Meadow Lane is even worse.
 

isaacs

Viv Anderson
Are we stopping there?

Can't we just keep stacking them till some f*cker tells us to stop? Maybe bag a world record while doing it
 

Flaggers

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The UK is still temporarily withdrawn from the European Union Exchange Rate Mechanism.
 

Flaggers

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There is an old Russian proverb, taught to me by a splendid old russian friend:

"The most permanent solutions are the temporary ones."
 

Shearstone

Born again Christian
Income tax was brought in temporarily to help pay for the Napoleonic Wars. In fact, although this tax has been in force every year since 1842, even now it retains its ‘temporary’ nature and has to be renewed annually by Parliament.
Imagine if they forgot to do it one year, be absolute chaos. However It'd be nice to get the 40% (or whatever it is after you take away the allowance) of my wage back.
 

redodare

First Team Squad
Everton's new stadium plans are interesting. They face similar dilemmas to Forest.

That club believes they are capable of generating much more revenue from increased capacity and better facilities.
They have a season ticket waiting list of 20,000 and plans have been revised to up the capacity of the new ground to 53,000.
Apparently, it's in an old docklands area , similar distance from town but not existing pubs and restaurants around it
However, they plan to keep a big chunk of the new capacity back for the tourist and corporate market , so many on the waiting list will remain on it
Their owners look at Liverpool , the club's , ability to market to those groups enviously. But point out , Liverpool find it easier to sell to these groups becasuse of their continued on pitch success.

Liverpool as a city has got better infrastructure than Nottingham - hotels and attractions - but its a long way from that there London. And Forest don't have the problem of being second best in the City. So, I think comparisons are valid.

Everton fans I have spoken to are sceptcial of their clubs ability to sell to these groups. Less demand and general management incompetence. But understand the need to up commercial revene because of the Premier League financial framework. They don't like the rules but haven't got a choice. They also realise that tourists and corporates contrubute to atmosphere less but it hasn't impacted Liverpool's on pitch performance.

It is what it is.
 

Lady Penelope

First Team Squad
Everton's new stadium plans are interesting. They face similar dilemmas to Forest.

That club believes they are capable of generating much more revenue from increased capacity and better facilities.
They have a season ticket waiting list of 20,000 and plans have been revised to up the capacity of the new ground to 53,000.
Apparently, it's in an old docklands area , similar distance from town but not existing pubs and restaurants around it
However, they plan to keep a big chunk of the new capacity back for the tourist and corporate market , so many on the waiting list will remain on it
Their owners look at Liverpool , the club's , ability to market to those groups enviously. But point out , Liverpool find it easier to sell to these groups becasuse of their continued on pitch success.

Liverpool as a city has got better infrastructure than Nottingham - hotels and attractions - but its a long way from that there London. And Forest don't have the problem of being second best in the City. So, I think comparisons are valid.

Everton fans I have spoken to are sceptcial of their clubs ability to sell to these groups. Less demand and general management incompetence. But understand the need to up commercial revene because of the Premier League financial framework. They don't like the rules but haven't got a choice. They also realise that tourists and corporates contrubute to atmosphere less but it hasn't impacted Liverpool's on pitch performance.

It is what it is.
I agree with you, except that whilst Liverpool has more 'attractions' the public transport is inferior to here. I have been working around Bramley Moore Dock for several months. It's further from town than the WFCG. Future rail schemes may deal with that, but it's a good way off. If, big if, all of the commercial development goes ahead it will be a terrific area / quarter, and Everton fans will be able to choose whether to eat and drink inside the stadium, or nearby. I say 'if' rather than 'when' because of the fragile state of the economy, that's holding a lot of stuff back.

Everton are aware of their need to generate more revenue. There is 'overspill' from Anfield because despite their extension, demand often exceeds supply there. As you say, they do have a successful team and brand. Forest are certainly in a more advantageous position than Notts and Derby in that regard, but despite that and the 'world famous' brand, the facilities at the WFCG are dreadfully lacking. Notts are making a good fist of picking up on the demand on Forest match days, as well as their own. Fair play to them.

Forest have the opportunity and the finance, let's hope that the ground scheme is not held up much longer.
 
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