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The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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uredsuns

Rice 13
I never understand why people move next to stadiums or music venues and then complain about them.
I am not sure the do complain if it is used it the format that it was in when it they moved in, more they feel like their lives shouldn't be affected in a negative way if these stadia apply for a change of use from when they moved in.
 

Morpeth

John Robertson
I think this transportation "problem" is being vastly overcomplicated. All that is needed are a few just out of town sites and a fleet of ageing double decker buses. Go to golf's open championship, no cars within 10 miles of the venue and it works a treat.

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Agreed, line them up for free on the bridges and away people go. If you want to go on a tram go to bloody Beamish.
 

Googler

Viv Anderson
I didn’t vote labour. Burnt way too many times with their previous election promises but if they prove me wrong and get infrastructure built, funded and moving then I’ll support whichever self serving lying politician have to serve me
My worry is what they are going to do with pensions, I suspect they will level up the amount they contribute and remove the 25% tax free element
 

Lady Penelope

First Team Squad
I never understand why people move next to stadiums or music venues and then complain about them.
A good few years ago I worked on a hospital job, which is where I met Tom Cartledge's father. The whole project was done in a rush and on the cheap, as so many of them are. An old building was converted into various day-care and office spaces for a fairly random collection of departments which the hospital could not fit anywhere else (they reckoned). After we'd finished a few expensive detached houses were build in what were the leafy grounds of the place.

After about 18 months the problems from the rush job were mounting so I was tasked with going back in to see what was what. Electrical risers messed up, lighting not as per drawings, fire-proofing, doors in the wrong place, alarms in the wrong place ... all symptoms of a rushed job, the customer not being well versed and not flagging things up much earlier, and the subbies not being managed well (the electrics were done by a firm from Birkenhead).

I was sitting in my car, which had the company name on it, outside of one of the posh houses when a cauliflower headed woman aggressively rattled my car window. Simply put, she was complaining because right opposite her house was a day-care facility for drug users and she wanted the unit and the service users moving somewhere else!

I asked her if she had scoped the area before she'd spent the best part of £450K on her house? I also asked her what problems were being caused to her by the unit? She replied, simply, that "they shouldn't be there".

Bigoted old harridan. I eventually told her to foxtrot oscar as it had nothing to do with me.

Nothing surprises me anymore, I just hope that she didn't sell up and move to WB.
 
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congo_red_49

Ale Ape
I never understand why people move next to stadiums or music venues and then complain about them.
So, a story from recent times, in my locale.
One of my favourite local Pubs, a place called the Ostrich, is a proper old school, city centre pub. It's had various names over the years, but has been there for over 200 years. It's owners have always been keen supporters of the local music scene, and for as long as anyone can remember, has put on acoustic acts on Thursday and Sunday nights - and either a covers or originals band on Friday and Saturday nights - as well as occasional all-day mini-festivals.
The neighbours of this pubs have, traditionally been small business, office space and a department store - all of whom have typically gone home by the time any music starts. Due to the changing face of City Centers, the office buildings have been empty for some time, the department store has changed hands and reduced it's footprint and the small business units are practically derelict. The council decided that these empty units would be best off being partially demolished and rebuilt/repurposed as flats. They informed the Landlord of the Ostrich thay they would send someone out to do a 'noise survey' for a typical night at the pub to get a baseline for the noise produced. the theory being that, if the future residents of the flats were to make a noise complaint, and the noise was at or below the baseline, then the complaint would not be considered, as it was what they should have expected when they moved in.
The Landlord did his best to work with the council and be 'a good neighbour' but, despite making it clear when bands would be present, the Coucil, in their wisdom, sent their guy to do they survey on a Tuesday night - not only when there would be no band playing, but also, typically the quietest night for the pub in terms of patrons - and used that figure alone as their baseline.
The Landlord has spent over a year, including raising a petition to get the council to re-do the survey on a more representative night - but at present it looks like he'll be forced to stop putting on live music, which will likely reduce business in the pub to an unsustainable level.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Exactly so the only people we should feel sorry for are people who have lived in the house or had family live in the house which they have inherited since pre City Ground. I bet that figure is none
And Vampires Emmo.

Don’t forget the Vampires.
 

Buster38

Long Throw Specialist.
I never understand why people move next to stadiums or music venues and then complain about them.
When I was in the RAF and based at flying stations, we would regularly have people ring in to complain of noisy aircraft. The Public Relations Officer (PRO) had a stock question which was, "Can I ask when you moved into your house?" Reply was usually from a recent incomer to the area. PRO reply - "We moved here in 1938 and have been conducting the same business since. Did your surveyor not pick this up?"
 

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
I never understand why people move next to stadiums or music venues and then complain about them.
As a Norfolkman, I'm tired of townies selling their houses for a small fortune, moving to the country, usually to a weekend cottage, then complaining about the church bells or a cockerill crowing to his lady love early in the morning.

Never ceases to amaze me. So many villages and even small towns in the North of the county, parts of which are becoming known as Chelsea on Sea, are now passing bylaws forbidding second homes in an effort to stop this migration so local people can own a home in their own neighbourhood. Also, as a by product of this move to the country, it's now rare to hear a Norfolk accent or dialect.
 

sammy the snake

Jack Armstrong
I live in a nice area Anyway there’s usually some bloody uproar going on, could be painting a park bench the wrong colour or trimming a bush in a way not consistent… matron! It really doesn’t take much to get people wound up, my rhubarb by the very nature of rhubarb is wild.. but that’s not stopped some people horrified by the way it’s growing. f*** em and If they carry on I’m going to find a very old mattress to display
 

YellowBelly Red

Viv Anderson
So, a story from recent times, in my locale.
One of my favourite local Pubs, a place called the Ostrich, is a proper old school, city centre pub. It's had various names over the years, but has been there for over 200 years. It's owners have always been keen supporters of the local music scene, and for as long as anyone can remember, has put on acoustic acts on Thursday and Sunday nights - and either a covers or originals band on Friday and Saturday nights - as well as occasional all-day mini-festivals.
The neighbours of this pubs have, traditionally been small business, office space and a department store - all of whom have typically gone home by the time any music starts. Due to the changing face of City Centers, the office buildings have been empty for some time, the department store has changed hands and reduced it's footprint and the small business units are practically derelict. The council decided that these empty units would be best off being partially demolished and rebuilt/repurposed as flats. They informed the Landlord of the Ostrich thay they would send someone out to do a 'noise survey' for a typical night at the pub to get a baseline for the noise produced. the theory being that, if the future residents of the flats were to make a noise complaint, and the noise was at or below the baseline, then the complaint would not be considered, as it was what they should have expected when they moved in.
The Landlord did his best to work with the council and be 'a good neighbour' but, despite making it clear when bands would be present, the Coucil, in their wisdom, sent their guy to do they survey on a Tuesday night - not only when there would be no band playing, but also, typically the quietest night for the pub in terms of patrons - and used that figure alone as their baseline.
The Landlord has spent over a year, including raising a petition to get the council to re-do the survey on a more representative night - but at present it looks like he'll be forced to stop putting on live music, which will likely reduce business in the pub to an unsustainable level.
Used to frequent said hostelry, when it was Bogarts!

Hope that they sort it out soon.
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
Used to frequent said hostelry, when it was Bogarts!

Hope that they sort it out soon.
It was indeed Bogarts.

I believe there may be progress, as the local council, since it changed from a Conservative-led coalition to a Labour-led coalition have been more receptive to re-carrying out the survey.
 

HBB

Jack Burkitt
I live under the Heathrow flightpath and I do mean under it - we did complain but only when they switched their pattern and were using one particular runway for the big transatlantic takeoffs ALL THE TIME - seemed to do the job and now its shared around more and they do more rapid climbs on take-off and its fine.
 

GOBIAS

Ian Bowyer
Gordon Brown stole from our pension and within a week of being voted in there’s already noises of means testing the state pension that we’ve paid into all our lives. Worrying times.
I have always said this would happen eventually. I bet the threshold will be quite low as well!!

Is this actually likely? The only places I have seen it mentioned are on the usual anti-Labour people on twitter.
 

sammy the snake

Jack Armstrong
I have always said this would happen eventually. I bet the threshold will be quite low as well!!

Is this actually likely? The only places I have seen it mentioned are on the usual anti-Labour people on twitter.
Oh there’s no denying labour have a bit of a track record, after all you can’t just invent money despite what quantitative easing measures are in place. I’m hoping labour learnt their lessons from previous attempts at government, as I say I’m not a labour voter but sincerely hope they get it it right this time.
 

incapable hulk

Best served cold
I am not sure the do complain if it is used it the format that it was in when it they moved in, more they feel like their lives shouldn't be affected in a negative way if these stadia apply for a change of use from when they moved in.
The stadium isn't changing use. It's still being used as a football stadium. If you choose to move next to a sports or music venue you don't expect it to be frozen in time forever. In the case of sports stadia in particular you know its going to evolve to meet the changing demands of sport.

They built apartments behind Rock City about 15 years ago, and once they were finished and people moved in they made a noise complaint to the council. Rock City was closed for several months and had to pay for a new, sound proof roof to be installed.
 
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uredsuns

Rice 13
The stadium isn't changing use. It's still being used as a football stadium. If you choose to move next to a sports or music venue you don't expect it to be frozen in time forever. In the case of sports stadia in particular you know its going to evolve to meet the changing demands of sport.

They built apartments behind Rock City about 15 years ago, and once they were finished and people moved in they made a noise complaint to the council. Rock City was closed for several months and had to pay for a new, sound proof to be installed.
So basically once a building is in place it can then keep expanding and expanding on the land it stands because it was a building already?
 
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