The demise of Ruud van Nistelrooij’s Leicester City

valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
Of course, passing coaching exams is all very well, but you've got to have the nous to start with; like leadership, you can teach it all you like, but unless you have that innate ability and are born with it, you'll never be a success. Passable imitation, perhaps, but no leader.

See all the British Prime Ministers since Churchill for examples. Which is why we are now down in the dumps.
 
uredsuns

uredsuns

Rice 13
PynchonForest said:
Now, one thing concerning the cost---for any ex player, if they can't afford it, they should check in to AA immediately as they obviously drink far too much. Now concerning coaches---Lampard apparently has his A badge. So he did the graft. Yet, he seems clueless as a manager. So it isn't just a case of getting your badges, right? Ditto Gerrard. The badges are a platform to build your managerial platform from, but they certainly don't indicate if you are going to be elite or not. So, the problem runs deeper than that.
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How do you know top level players haven’t done the courses, maybe they are being overlooked for other managers (see Paul Ince ).


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eyupmeduck

eyupmeduck

Grenville Morris
Rubics said:
Looks like RVN according to Fabrizio.

Better than cooper?
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Think he's mad to take the job to be honest, firstly because he's actually managed quite easy wins against them so knows how bad they are and second because the club stiffed the last manager after only 12 matches after an appalling summer transfer window and likely to have no money to spend in a challenging winter window.



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MaxiRobriguez

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
gurru991 said:
I fully understand that we are not top six or even PL established but the club wants to remain in the PL & that starts by winning games !! Steve Cooper just isn't savvy enough to compete at Premier League level. As to whether Moyes or Potter might be interested is debatable. If we can believe the media Potter has turned us down twice already but Moyes who lives in Preston may be interested.
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As widely anticipated everywhere that wasn't Leicester, he'd rather kick about unemployed in Preston than manage Leicester.

Looking forward to how you boys come up with the answer to proving you really wanted the completely inexperienced RVN all along.
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
It's almost like quality managers don't want to risk ruining their reputations by having a relegation on their CV...
 
BryanRoy22

BryanRoy22

Bob McKinlay
van Nistelrooy the best caretaker manager of the season. Let's see how he gets on with a full-time job where he's got a clique to break through.
 
FLC

FLC

First Team Squad
This is going to be good.
 
gurru991

gurru991

Leicester Supporter
DocForest said:
This could be a really shrewd move by Leicester or alternatively as funny as f***. Let's hope for the latter.
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Yeah .... It could really go either way. It can't be any worse than watching Cooper stumble & fumble his way through a game.
Hopefully he can breathe some life into a struggling team.
 
gurru991

gurru991

Leicester Supporter
BryanRoy22 said:
He will do. For around 6 games. Honeymoon period.

Then the clique will take over. Again.
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Apparently he has the reputation of being quite hard nosed so I don't see him being pushed around by any cliques within the club. Hopefully he has a big enough set to leave Wout Faes on the bench. !!
 
TrickyTree101

TrickyTree101

First Team Squad
RVN - well that is a shot in the dark - lets hope he is as good as other ex man utd players turned managers, Rooney, Phil and Gary Neville, Paul Scholes.
 
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DocForest

First Team Squad
gurru991 said:
Yeah .... It could really go either way. It can't be any worse than watching Cooper stumble & fumble his way through a game.
Hopefully he can breathe some life into a struggling team.
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Poor players tend to stumble and fumble through a game regardless of who the manager is,
The fact is your players were average for the last 20 games in the Championship and then you spent about £80m and sold Dewsbury-Hall.
Meanwhile Ipswich spent about £125m and Southampton spent about £120m.
The Leicester fans ire should be aimed at the people running the club and some of the players, not the manager.....Cooper/RVN or whoever it is.
 
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Shev

A. Trialist
Wycombe fan here - this article is behind a paywall but I will summarize for anyone not subscribed.

www.telegraph.co.uk

Wycombe manager Matt Bloomfield: I had dinner with Gareth Southgate – and he paid

The man working wonders at League One leaders believes pathway is there for aspiring English coaches to reach top
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Our manager, Matt Bloomfield, was a lower league player his entire career (except for one year in the Champo) and in his words "didn't have 14 grand down the back of the sofa for a Pro License". He basically negotiated the cost of the license into his initial managerial gig with Colchester, because he was desperate to get it and better himself. The headline makes it sound like the pathway is there, but in effect he is saying it is still possible, not necessarily probable.

However, this is a unique case - not many lower league players will have the opportunity to get that kind of a sign-on perk (not to mention be given time with a club when they win 1 in 17 like Blooms did early last season). For every keen lower league mind who finds a way to get the top level license, there will be droves who can't.

Sure, ex-Prem players can afford it easily, but I think the game is actually moving away from managers all being players who played at a high level. Coaching nous is not necessarily directly correlated to playing ability, as we see with Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney.

In short, making the licenses less financially accessible than Europe will for sure have an effect. I think I saw something about Spain having ten times as many licensed coaches as England! There are some good minds coming through who never played at a high level, but there are still many left behind.
 
gurru991

gurru991

Leicester Supporter
DocForest said:
Poor players tend to stumble and fumble through a game regardless of who the manager is,
The fact is your players were average for the last 20 games in the Championship and then you spent about £80m and sold Dewsbury-Hall.
Meanwhile Ipswich spent about £125m and Southampton spent about £120m.
The Leicester fans ire should be aimed at the people running the club and some of the players, not the manager.....Cooper/RVN or whoever it is.
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Trust me , the fans are not happy with the people running the club, but they are bullet proof unfortunately.
Cooper just didn't help himself.. He looked lost most of the time & made some horrible decisions . He is a Championship manager at best
 
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