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Summer 2022 Transfer Window

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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
You can only judge a transfer window by the time the next one comes around but one thing is for certain we have given ourselves the best chance we could.

There is certain to be flops amongst this group of signings but if the hit rate remains high it would have been a brilliant window - probably club defining. As Cooper said in his presser the other day we have signed these players knowing we can develop them for the club instead of developing other clubs players and build something long term for once.
 

DanR

Steve Chettle
Oh yes. The one where we signed Pratley and Whittingham was awesome.
The following seven windows where we signed them again were even better.
 

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I'm still here Crewton
So out of the 500 signings who is our free kick specialist now?
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
Some stats and figures for the Summer Window:

- We were linked to 117 players in total (only counted players from legitimate news sources and Tweeters, one or two rogues might have wriggled in)

- First player linked was Joe Rothwell on 9th May.

- MGW was the earliest player linked (30th May) that we eventually signed.

- Taiwo Awoniyi was the first player signed on 25th June.

- Once the signings started with Awoniyi the longest time between signings was 14 days between Mangala (31st July) and Kouyate & Dennis (13th August).


Here is a spreadsheet with all the players linked, signed etc. with the original source that linked them for anyone interested:

 

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Viv Anderson
So who - if anyone - is to be excluded from the squad of 25?
Do we have to exclude anyone?
Assuming Aurier does sign and takes one of the spots, and that there's no further outgoings that we're currently unaware of, then we need to leave two* players out.

I reckon that broadly speaking, the contenders for that are:
Niakhate, Richards, Mangala - All currently injured. If any of them are out until at least January then there's no point using a squad spot yet.
Cook, Colback, Cafu, Taylor - If we stay reasonably fit then they're all unlikely to get many minutes going forward.
Smith - Is it worth carrying a 3rd choice Senior keeper ahead of the players above? Is Shelvey able to cover the role sufficiently?

*plus Arter but he doesn't count.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
Some stats and figures for the Summer Window:

- We were linked to 117 players in total (only counted players from legitimate news sources and Tweeters, one or two rogues might have wriggled in)

- First player linked was Joe Rothwell on 9th May.

- MGW was the earliest player linked (30th May) that we eventually signed.

- Taiwo Awoniyi was the first player signed on 25th June.

- Once the signings started with Awoniyi the longest time between signings was 14 days between Mangala (31st July) and Kouyate & Dennis (13th August).


Here is a spreadsheet with all the players linked, signed etc. with the original source that linked them for anyone interested:

Now you have the opportunity to take a deserved breather Josh, what's your overall conclusion of our window?
 

DanR

Steve Chettle
I think the Athletic explains it well that due to home grown and under 21 rules, we don't have to leave anyone out.
 

DanR

Steve Chettle
Where does it say that?
From the Q&A to Daniel Taylor's article this morning - not been confirmed anywhere but I think I see the logic.

There are 8 first team squad members remaining from last season (Smith, Worrall, Cook, Soh, McKenna, Yates, Johnson, Surridge) plus 19 newcomers (3 of the 22 have gone on loan). That makes 27 but 2 of them are 21 or under so don't count (Johnson and Williams). That brings you to 25.

Some in squad are free hits because of age/homegrown rules. Crystal Palace signed so many players a few years ago one of their new arrivals was left out of the squad. But this won’t be happening here (I think!).
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
Now you have the opportunity to take a deserved breather Josh, what's your overall conclusion?

Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say! I'm not a huge fan of adding that many to a squad at once, don't think anyone is... but through a surprise promotion and a bit of a lack of foresight in the past it's been necessary and to give credit I think it's been done in the most sensible way possible; a lot of players but most you could see being sold for a profit in the future when and if it becomes necessary. Whether it'll all gel together and workout I can't even hazard a guess at this point. I would've liked that extra striker with a bit of Premier League nous but the fact we didn't get him means we have to back Awoniyi and Surridge as the traditional CFs in the team, it could be the making of either or both of them and if we manage to stay up it's probably a position we can really work on with a bigger chunk of next summers budget. Just fingers crossed and trust in Cooper to bring it all together now.
 

Morpeth

John Robertson
From the Q&A to Daniel Taylor's article this morning - not been confirmed anywhere but I think I see the logic.

There are 8 first team squad members remaining from last season (Smith, Worrall, Cook, Soh, McKenna, Yates, Johnson, Surridge) plus 19 newcomers (3 of the 22 have gone on loan). That makes 27 but 2 of them are 21 or under so don't count (Johnson and Williams). That brings you to 25.

Some in squad are free hits because of age/homegrown rules. Crystal Palace signed so many players a few years ago one of their new arrivals was left out of the squad. But this won’t be happening here (I think!).
Well there are three U21 to begin with but also we have Cafu, Colback and Taylor.

So I reckon he was winging it there and his numbers are wrong.
 

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Viv Anderson
I think the Athletic explains it well that due to home grown and under 21 rules, we don't have to leave anyone out.
We absolutely do need to leave players out. One player as it stands, Two if Aurier signs. The Homegrown rule isn't a factor, we're miles away from that.

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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
I think you can register just 2 GK's & if one gets injured you would be able to register the third.

So Lyle Taylor + Jordan Smith out will give room for 25 with Aurier I think.
 

Dirk Furtull

John Robertson
Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say! I'm not a huge fan of adding that many to a squad at once, don't think anyone is... but through a surprise promotion and a bit of a lack of foresight in the past it's been necessary and to give credit I think it's been done in the most sensible way possible; a lot of players but most you could see being sold for a profit in the future when and if it becomes necessary. Whether it'll all gel together and workout I can't even hazard a guess at this point. I would've liked that extra striker with a bit of Premier League nous but the fact we didn't get him means we have to back Awoniyi and Surridge as the traditional CFs in the team, it could be the making of either or both of them and if we manage to stay up it's probably a position we can really work on with a bigger chunk of next summers budget. Just fingers crossed and trust in Cooper to bring it all together now.
The biggest success we've had this window is someone correctly quoting the pudding idiom. Congrats HP I'm impressed!

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Viv Anderson
I think you can register just 2 GK's & if one gets injured you would be able to register the third.

So Lyle Taylor + Jordan Smith out will give room for 25 with Aurier I think.
I'm not certain on this, but I believe the emergency goalkeeper thing applies when both senior keepers are out - so the risk of leaving Smith out would be putting Shelvey on the bench if only one got injured and against Man Utd.
 

Master Yates

John Robertson
I’d pick:

GK: Hendo, Hennessey, Smith (3)
CB: Worrall, McKenna, Niakhaté, Boly, Badé, Cook, Biancone, Mbe Soh* (7)
RWB: Neco* (0)
LWB: Lodi, Richards, Toff (3)
CM: Yates, LOB, Freuler, Mangala, Kouayaté, Colback (6)
AM: MGW, Lingard (2)
CF: Awoniyi, Dennis, Surridge, Johnson* (3)

That’s 24 with 1 space left for Aurier.

Cafu out on loan somewhere abroad, Lyle Taylor left out, Arter melted down for glue.

I’d then look to get Mbe Soh out on loan somewhere in Belgium for his development.


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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
I'm not certain on this, but I believe the emergency goalkeeper thing applies when both senior keepers are out - so the risk of leaving Smith out would be putting Shelvey on the bench if only one got injured and against Man Utd.
To be brutal would it make much difference? I think I would take that scenario & just register a 3rd one as an emergency loan if we get an injury to Henderson / Hennessey.

Smith should never start a game in the Prem.
 

Shearstone

Misses the champ
I’d pick:

GK: Hendo, Hennessey, Smith (3)
CB: Worrall, McKenna, Niakhaté, Boly, Badé, Cook, Biancone, Mbe Soh* (7)
RWB: Neco* (0)
LWB: Lodi, Richards, Toff (3)
CM: Yates, LOB, Freuler, Mangala, Kouayaté, Colback (6)
AM: MGW, Lingard (2)
CF: Awoniyi, Dennis, Surridge, Johnson* (3)

That’s 24 with 1 space left for Aurier.

Cafu out on loan somewhere abroad, Lyle Taylor left out, Arter melted down for glue.

I’d then look to get Mbe Soh out on loan somewhere in Belgium for his development.


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I'd drop Smith and keep Cafu.
 
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