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Snatchday 1: Nottingham Forest Vs the PGMOL
- Thread starter Alf-engelos Mindminackers
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Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I’d argue that the tone was set in 1983 (9 years before the formation of the Premier League)
when home clubs were allowed to keep their own gate receipts (prior to that away clubs
kept a share-so a visit to say Old Trafford or Anfield could be lucrative).
The period from 1972 (20 years before the Premier League was formed) until 1983 was far
more competitive with Derby (twice),Forest and Villa all becoming champions and other
unfashionable clubs such as Stoke,QPR and Ipswich coming close.
Redemption
Agenda Benda
Even if this is correct, these changes aren't made in a vacuum... they have antecedents.
What caused the league to make these changes? How were the clubs involved? Etc (I'm not expect answers, btw im being pointedly rhetorical )
Football is evolutionary in the sport itself, in the business that operates it and co-evolutionary with the community it draws its fans from, and with the technological and economic practices of the society it is part of.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
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Cloughie1975
John Robertson
You didn‘t want any answers,R-but I’ll give you one (so to speak).
The top clubs threatened a breakaway so were allowed to keep their home gate receipts
in 1983 as an appeasement tactic to keep the league together.
The Premier League was still formed in 1992 despite this.
alabamared
Stuart Pearce
You're correct that we can't go backwards but which way is forward?
For me I think we need to get control of wages and transfer fees, quite how to do that wihout mandating caps is difficult and I wouldn't want teh job.
THe EPL is currently a product and not a sporting competition, I would like to see that change.
magicwoand
It tizwas it is
Keith Hacketts got our back
Robertson
Viv Anderson
Capping ‘commercial income’ against FFP at about £20m would be a start. The big six clubs are topping a billion a year between them in income claimed to offset expenses on wages and player purchases. No wonder there is wage inflation.
Robertson
Viv Anderson
Limit how much of the green bars can count against FFP basically.
If they really are making all that money what’s not to like for the big clubs? It’ll go into their pockets rather than having to spend it on player wages.
If they really are making all that money what’s not to like for the big clubs? It’ll go into their pockets rather than having to spend it on player wages.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
I would love to see that!You know what I'd like to see if we get through all this circus, and manage to stay up this year? the Big man in Nottingham town centre with a microphone singing I did it my way with a silver glitter suit onthat would be fucgging awesome
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A lot of people on here wouldnt though, I cant imagine some wanting to see such a thing after spending so many hours critisizing the bloke on a football forum.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
There are many leagues where it is the big 2 or even the big 1, but yes outside of the cartel 6 or so, your hands are tied.
Lefkasman
Ian Bowyer
Oh I don't imagine there is any shortage. A bit like folk willing to pay a couple of hundred quid to see a band who are well past their selling by date at a venue with shit acoustics.
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
So like the VAR audio then
I was listening live, yes he is correct but I had to wait 3hrs of absolute garbage and adverts.
Redemption
Agenda Benda
Just scrolling on my twitter timeline and people who were properly vexed last week now announcing they've just renewed.
Captive audience. Etc.
Tobias
Jack Burkitt
PGMOL headquarters has had some unwelcome visitors.
chaospunx
Geoff Thomas
Ok was bored so knocked this up i have no doubt it will make f*** all differance but be interesting to see what kind of number of signatures it could attract i can still edit it so any improvements let me know as i have the mental and writing ability of your average 5 year old 
Share far and wide
you.38degrees.org.uk
Share far and wide
Remove VAR from English football
It is my belief that the majority of match going and general viewers of football do not want VAR in the game. Football that it's claimed belongs to the people but it appears we have no voice or say in this
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Lefkasman
Ian Bowyer
I've not really got anything against people who want to renew and have a grumble, it's their money and their choice. I'd hate to think people were getting into debt for it though.
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BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
I have never understood why, from the outset, VAR was never a live audio to the players and audience like it is in rugby. Communicating transparently throughout.
In rugby, things are cleared up so openly to everyone and huge aggressive lads on the pitch often accept the decisions without any complaint.
It should be easy. It could be easy. But Sky Sports/Premier League enjoy the drama. That's clear to see from their adverts and build up of a League 1 game. "This is incredible. The drama. The excitement. MK Dons against Peterborough. Only an hour away in travel but could be so far apart this evening in the league table. This is why you keep coming back. Strap in for the ride of your life".
In some ways, what's happening with Forest right now is (ironically) probably what they want in terms of online clicks, which generates more attention and sales. Everything is playing into their hands right now.
YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
As someone that spends thousands every season following Forest, I'm now asking why I can't hear the VAR audio from last weeks game?
Exactly what have the PGMOL got to hide? Why nearly a week later, has this not been released? Why is Attwell still being allowed to officiate games? Why is Howard Webb still in a job?
Something isn't right, so as a fan/customer, show me and the other thousands, some respect and get the audio released. We live in a digital age, so it should be so simple.
Its obvious that the EPL and Sky didn't want Everton to go down. It suits Sky to have two Merseyside derbies, and relegation could well have meant administration for Everton.
I just feel like myself and all the other Forest plans are being taken for mugs here.
Exactly what have the PGMOL got to hide? Why nearly a week later, has this not been released? Why is Attwell still being allowed to officiate games? Why is Howard Webb still in a job?
Something isn't right, so as a fan/customer, show me and the other thousands, some respect and get the audio released. We live in a digital age, so it should be so simple.
Its obvious that the EPL and Sky didn't want Everton to go down. It suits Sky to have two Merseyside derbies, and relegation could well have meant administration for Everton.
I just feel like myself and all the other Forest plans are being taken for mugs here.
vertigored
First Team Squad
How long did it take them to get liverpools audio out?
24 hours, but that was because some bloke in a tracksuit with a perm and a ‚tache chucked a bin through the window of PGMOL HQ and nicked it.
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
Maybe he took their only tape recorder then and they've had to order a new one.