Saudi Arabian Sportswashing Shenanigans

Harvey

Harvey

Chrissy Cohen
Eddie Yates said:
Just let countries that didn't have the opportunity to bid previously bid next time, open the bidding up to European & South American countries
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I would assume every country can bid if they wanted to? Like Andorra aren't prohibited from bidding to host a World Cup? Sorry am I missing something?

My point is FIFA have been left in a position (VERY MUCH OF THEIR OWN MAKING) that only Saudi Arabia are bidding for the World Cup
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
Harvey said:
I would assume every country can bid if they wanted to? Like Andorra aren't prohibited from bidding to host a World Cup? Sorry am I missing something?

My point is FIFA have been left in a position (VERY MUCH OF THEIR OWN MAKING) that only Saudi Arabia are bidding for the World Cup
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Who cares anyway?
Most genuine football fans won’t insult themselves by watching the contrived circus.
 
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trentside69

Viv Anderson
Eddie Yates said:
Just let countries that didn't have the opportunity to bid previously bid next time, open the bidding up to European & South American countries
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I think the saudis have been allowed to buy their way into being the solo bidder and have probably paid every countrys f.a to not bid.
F.i.f.a should not have allowed it there are rules against this kind of thing in every industry but money talks and big money shouts even louder.
The game is getting more and more like Saturday afternoon wrestling
 
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trentside69

Viv Anderson
Harvey said:
Countries that had the opportunity to bid for it but didn't? Who presumably wouldn't bid for it again on the same basis?

Mate I am with you 100% on not staging a World Cup in a country with Medieval laws like stoning people to death

But unless FIFA can didactically enforce a country to host a World Cup there isn't much they can do
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The last world cup was in Qatar who are not known for their equal rights policy.
 
Omar Devone Little

Omar Devone Little

Mr Realistic
Eddie Yates said:
Just let countries that didn't have the opportunity to bid previously bid next time, open the bidding up to European & South American countries
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To be fair the South Americans are no angels either. Corruption, insanely high crime rates and some of the highest murder rates on the planet.

In fact you'd be hard-pressed to find a country outside of western Europe that hasn't got a massive range of issues. You're probably left with Canada, Australia/NZ and going back to Japan or South Korea again. Even the yanks are f**ked up.

The last 4 hosts of the tournament all have huge socio-economic problems.
 
Rockabilly

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Cloughie1975 said:
Who cares anyway?
Most genuine football fans won’t insult themselves by watching the contrived circus.
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Well said Cloughie, I didn’t give a shite about the last one. Nor did I agree with it.
 
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trentside69

Viv Anderson
Strummer said:
The most disappointing thing from that Henderson interview is where he talks about „doing what was asked, wearing the laces, wearing the armband“ which clearly shows he was doing little more than paying mere lip-service to those frankly brilliantly inclusivity campaigns, and was actually just pretending to be an ally because it would boost his own profile?

And I say this as someone with a number of friends, who just happen to be gay (and if so, so what?) F*** you Henderson, you absolute f***ing fraud.
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It's not just Henderson though that is the game in general.
The premier league itself is a fraud because it separated itself from the other poorer clubs just for the money.
History or principles were not 5he main factor when they voted to leave,it was all about the money. Henderson is doing what he's been taught he didn't make the game rules
 
MansfieldRed

MansfieldRed

Grenville Morris
Project Zeus said:
I bet the Saudis are in the Champions League by 2034 as well.

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They already take part in the Asian equivalent of the Champion's League. They would have to withdraw from that first, and it may not be profitable for them as they get 4 entrants in it currently.
 
Eddie Yates

Eddie Yates

Steve Chettle
Harvey said:
I would assume every country can bid if they wanted to? Like Andorra aren't prohibited from bidding to host a World Cup? Sorry am I missing something?

My point is FIFA have been left in a position (VERY MUCH OF THEIR OWN MAKING) that only Saudi Arabia are bidding for the World Cup
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I thought it was on a rotational basis per continent and that SA & European countries didn't bit for 2034
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Harvey said:
I would assume every country can bid if they wanted to? Like Andorra aren't prohibited from bidding to host a World Cup? Sorry am I missing something?
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You're missing the fact this was a pre-determined outcome from the get-go.

FIFA dropped it's requirement of pre-built stadiums for winning the competition tender from 7 to 4 prior to the tender kicking off. You won't find it hard to guess how many FIFA-compliant stadiums there are in Saudi Arabia.

Then you had Saudi Arabia announcing it's intention to bid for the tender literally within a minute of the FIFA announcement for the tender.

And then finally within a few days there's apparently 100 FIFA members supporting the Saudi Arabia bid, like they've been tapped up already.

So the question really is why would any country waste any money putting together a bid to compete against what is obviously a predetermined choice? Australia chose not to bid not because they didn't want the tournament, but because they didn't want to throw away £50m+ on bidding in a tender process they clearly have zero chance of winning.

What FIFA needs is a constitution. Any country wishing to host a tournament needs to reflect the global nature that football is and thus be inclusive of every man, woman and child that attends. If Saudi Arabia and their ilk want to prioritise stoning people who carry a rainbow flag or shooting them in the head if they question the Saudi government then they're welcome to do just that, but they shouldn't get the rights to the tourney. Doesn't matter if there's no one else to host it yet.

I've never been bothered by the England men's team but they would grow on me enormously if they boycotted 2034.
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Harvey said:
Countries that had the opportunity to bid for it but didn't? Who presumably wouldn't bid for it again on the same basis?

Mate I am with you 100% on not staging a World Cup in a country with Medieval laws like stoning people to death

But unless FIFA can didactically enforce a country to host a World Cup there isn't much they can do
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Harvey said:
I would assume every country can bid if they wanted to? Like Andorra aren't prohibited from bidding to host a World Cup? Sorry am I missing something?

My point is FIFA have been left in a position (VERY MUCH OF THEIR OWN MAKING) that only Saudi Arabia are bidding for the World Cup
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You're nearly right -
FIFA changed its own bidding/tendering system on the QT.

They told Saudi to have their bid ready by last Friday. They told everyone else that they've got another 12 months.
Then they said "Oh - bidding will close at the end of this week - what??? What do you mean the rest ifyou don't have a bid ready yet - Oh Saudi, well done!"

And they want you to believe that absolutely no money changed hands for this.


Not just FIFA, but with UEFA the Premier League, IFAB et al, I'm at the stage now, and have been for some time, where I'm satisfied that EVERY decision those in charge of football are making, from rule changes, to TV deals, and things like scrapping 3rd & 4th round replays in the FA Cup, EVERY decision the people in charge of football are making, is WRONG.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
MaxiRobriguez said:
What FIFA needs is a constitution
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It has a constitution.

The FIFA Statutes and the associated Regulations are the Constitution.

Those Statutes, Regulations and Standing Orders are agreed the Congress, which is formed by its members. Between Congresses it is run by it's Council.

The issue isn't that it is without a constitution but the way it is constituted.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Eddie Yates said:
I thought it was on a rotational basis per continent and that SA & European countries didn't bit for 2034
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Yes, it is.

And one benefit of perhaps holding a future World Cup in Germany of course, is that we haven’t strung anyone up since about 1945 here, so that’s a little better than some of the despotic regimes who’ve hosted it recently.
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
FIFA is corrupt because of the people who run it. These organisations are in the fortunate or unfortunate position (depending on your outlook) of being run by their members and if enough of those in power are happy to feather their own nests, then those at the top are there almost in perpetuity.

I'm not really bothered by who runs the World Cup these days. The problem with the WC as with the Olympics and even smaller competitions like the Commonwealth Games, is that they cost far too much to run. Only those with wealth gained from oil or other sources besides normal manufacturing etc are able to enjoy hosting these competitions. I say enjoy because I'm sure many countries can host these events, but the hassle and cost must be far from enjoyable.

So I watch it all on TV and it might just as well be in Outer Mongolia for all I see other than the football or the running, jumping and standing still events.
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Every bloody competition has to start with dancers, coloured lights and a f***ing massive CO2-delivering firework display.
Each time there is a new competition the host country has to spend more to make the spectacular opening ceremony even more spectacular than the last one.
Same with the closing ceremony.
It's not f***ing New Year's Eve, for fucks sake.
 
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trentside69

Viv Anderson
MaxiRobriguez said:
You're missing the fact this was a pre-determined outcome from the get-go.

FIFA dropped it's requirement of pre-built stadiums for winning the competition tender from 7 to 4 prior to the tender kicking off. You won't find it hard to guess how many FIFA-compliant stadiums there are in Saudi Arabia.

Then you had Saudi Arabia announcing it's intention to bid for the tender literally within a minute of the FIFA announcement for the tender.

And then finally within a few days there's apparently 100 FIFA members supporting the Saudi Arabia bid, like they've been tapped up already.

So the question really is why would any country waste any money putting together a bid to compete against what is obviously a predetermined choice? Australia chose not to bid not because they didn't want the tournament, but because they didn't want to throw away £50m+ on bidding in a tender process they clearly have zero chance of winning.

What FIFA needs is a constitution. Any country wishing to host a tournament needs to reflect the global nature that football is and thus be inclusive of every man, woman and child that attends. If Saudi Arabia and their ilk want to prioritise stoning people who carry a rainbow flag or shooting them in the head if they question the Saudi government then they're welcome to do just that, but they shouldn't get the rights to the tourney. Doesn't matter if there's no one else to host it yet.

I've never been bothered by the England men's team but they would grow on me enormously if they boycotted 2034.
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f.i.f.a and the f.a are disgusting and always have been but we have ignored it too long.
The rainbow laces and taking the knee was always a gimmick and now they have admitted it was a gimmick by their actions.
And the only way the England team would boycott 2034 would be if saudis paid them to sit it out .
Maybe that's the plan for the saudis,pay every team off and win the world cup 😂😂😂
 
Lefkasman

Lefkasman

Steve Chettle
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Lefkasman said:
How much money do these malakas need/want?

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„More than anyone else“ is the answer to that.
 
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