Official Matchday Thread: Liverpool v Nottingham Forest, Sunday 29th October 2023. 2pm kick off

[Louth Red]

Ive never understood this mentality myself, like staying makes you a better supporter or something?

If Forest are getting tonked, Im leaving early. Its too hurtful to me to sit and watch a team I love getting battered, so I choose not to put myself through it. 1-0 down and showing intent to get back in the game is one thing, losing 3-0 and rolling over is another. I refuse to put myself through it these days, seeing opposition fans taking the piss, no thanks, Im missing that traffic thank you very much! 85 minutes is long enough

We have to agree to differ.

Where have I said, or implied that I’m a better supporter for staying?

I have never left a game early and never will - I’ve attended in excess of 2,000 live games in my lifetime. I never turn my back on the team whatever the circumstance. On Sunday after the final whistle every Forest player at Anfield came to applaud the dwindling number of Forest supporters. Abuse from home fans doesn’t affect me - my support is unconditional.

On Sunday I left home at 7.00am and arrived home at 9.00pm - what difference would arriving home a few minutes earlier really make.

The away departures started well before 85 minutes.

There are plenty of supporters who would give their all to get an away ticket.

There is a greater likelihood of late goals in football than any other time.
Ask those who two years ago made a long trip to Bristol City in driving rain and stayed for the full game and were rewarded with two very late goals which super charged our move up the league table.

 

[Captain Sinister]

Stay to the bitter end is my motto.
Not for me, but for the good of the players.
Applaud them off win draw or lose.
If any player isn't worth applauding, the manager should address that 1-2-1 with the player.

 

[Cloughie1975]

Stay to the bitter end is my motto.
Not for me, but for the good of the players.
Applaud them off win draw or lose.
If any player isn't worth applauding, the manager should address that 1-2-1 with the player.

I remember attending a game against Swindon at the City Ground in October 1972 (the match
after Matt Gillies resigned).
We were 0-2 down with minutes left and the original paltry 8,000 crowd numbered about 4,000
as many had already headed home.Luckily,I stayed and saw goals from John Robertson
and Martin O’Neill in the final 2 minutes to secure an unlikely 2-2 draw.

 

[REDDERS78]

We have to agree to differ.

Where have I said, or implied that I’m a better supporter for staying?

I have never left a game early and never will - I’ve attended in excess of 2,000 live games in my lifetime. I never turn my back on the team whatever the circumstance. On Sunday after the final whistle every Forest player at Anfield came to applaud the dwindling number of Forest supporters. Abuse from home fans doesn’t affect me - my support is unconditional.

On Sunday I left home at 7.00am and arrived home at 9.00pm - what difference would arriving home a few minutes earlier really make.

The away departures started well before 85 minutes.

There are plenty of supporters who would give their all to get an away ticket.

There is a greater likelihood of late goals in football than any other time.
Ask those who two years ago made a long trip to Bristol City in driving rain and stayed for the full game and were rewarded with two very late goals which super charged our move up the league table.

I never said you said it makes you better, there was a question mark.

One could argue that those leaving on 85 after a shambolic display are hurting more than those that stay, but each to their own. I personally feel if the team have given everything I will stay until the whistle, If I don't then I may leave a couple of minutes early, if were 3 or 4 down and showing absolutely nothing then I don't feel the need to put myself through 98 minutes to applaud something that wont change the outcome, wont make me feel better and is probably not deserved.

Having said that I'm a mardy bastard, In the L1 days I once gave my season ticket to a mate after a game because I was so wound up. Once I calmed down and realised we had Swansea a couple of weeks later had to ask for it back It was about this time that I stopped insisting on staying until the end nonmatter what, far easier on my emotional status to not put myself through it.

So to summarise, I don't think anyone that insists on staying until the end is particularly a better someone than someone that leaves on 85 at 3-0 down, I understand both sides. I do commend you resilience though I will say that

 

[Berkshire Red]

When Man U scored their eighth I got up and walked out. The players had long given up, so there was nothing to stand and applaud. I also walked out early when we lost 4-0 to Wednesday with Lamouchi in charge, again it was obvious that the players weren't bothered, in fact Wednesday hadn't bothered since half time either!

On neither occasion was there any remote danger of me missing anything of consequence.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Staying in the freezing cold watching us get smashed when the game has gone or sneak off 5 minutes early to sit in a warm boozer...

No brainer surely.

 

[congo_red_49]

Staying in the freezing cold watching us get smashed when the game has gone or sneak off 5 minutes early to sit in a warm boozer...

No brainer surely.

Much as I hate the cold, and love the boozer - every time I have previously snuck off early, I have inevitably missed a goal. Quite often only a consolation...but nonetheless - FOMO.

 

[Cloughie1975]

When Man U scored their eighth I got up and walked out. The players had long given up, so there was nothing to stand and applaud. I also walked out early when we lost 4-0 to Wednesday with Lamouchi in charge, again it was obvious that the players weren't bothered, in fact Wednesday hadn't bothered since half time either!

On neither occasion was there any remote danger of me missing anything of consequence.

The stampede against Wednesday started at half-time and turned into a steady trickle
in the 2nd half.
At least I stayed for the ‘full Monty’ and had the pleasure of seeing Michael Dawson waving his
arms in the air before the 2nd period commenced-as if it would make a difference.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Much as I hate the cold, and love the boozer - every time I have previously snuck off early, I have inevitably missed a goal. Quite often only a consolation...but nonetheless - FOMO.

There were times when I was there under Megson where I'd leave with a few minutes left as it was just dreadful to watch and I genuinely couldn't give a shit if we'd scored 3 in the last 5 mins. I'd fallen out of love with it all so much I was just going through the motions being there.

In fact I was seeing a bird in the Megson days who used to stay at mine every Friday night. I used to find it pretty difficult to motivate myself to get out of bed and go down CG in January...

 

[congo_red_49]

There were times when I was there under Megson where I'd leave with a few minutes left as it was just dreadful to watch and I genuinely couldn't give a shit if we'd scored 3 in the last 5 mins. I'd fallen out of love with it all so much I was just going through the motions being there.

I can definitely identify with that. The Megson years really were the absolute worst. Dire performances were the norm, embarrassing results piled up one after another - only for him to scrape the odd victory that kept him in the job a bit longer, other teams were rightly laughing at us. And that's without mentioning the shambles off the pitch.

...and for any newer fans who missed out on this 'experience', just take a look down the A52!

 

[valspoodle]

I can honestly say I've never left a game early, though the games only number in the hundreds rather than thousands. And that's even when going to see Spuds with my mate Ted against many an odd team or if wandered round to see Fulham when I lived in Putney.

Can't see the point unless it's to catch the last train home or something similar, you pay to see 90 mins and 90 mins I will get.

 

[YellowBelly Red]

Those that leave early aren't a problem to me. I left early at Man City away last year, to get the train an hour earlier, as that was the difference in getting in bed at 1am, against 2,30am.......and when you get up at 4am for work, then that's a massive difference.

My bugbear is those that rock up 10 minutes into the match!

 

[Statto]

Don't really give a flying klopperguson if people leave early or not.

They've chosen to pay to watch a football match, they aren't going to get a reduction for leaving early, and might have other personal situations going off aside from leaving early because they're doing shite.

Totally their business

 

[REDDERS78]

Staying in the freezing cold watching us get smashed when the game has gone or sneak off 5 minutes early to sit in a warm boozer...

No brainer surely.

Watching from your bedroom and taking to the internet to say I told you so is far easier I guess it Omar?

 

[Gyros Peter]

I'm more of a leave late man these days - crowds piss me off so if I can hang back I will.

To each their own - I had a spell under Platt where I probably saw about half hour tops of every game, so I wouldn't begrudge someone getting away early for whatever reason. At least there not arriving around twenty in, buying four pints ten minutes before half time, getting back in with thirty to go and f***ing off early because the pub is loads better. What a time that was!

 

[Mcbeth99]

Much as I hate the cold, and love the boozer - every time I have previously snuck off early, I have inevitably missed a goal. Quite often only a consolation...but nonetheless - FOMO.

Really?!! Erm could we come to some kind of arrangement that if we are a goal down at 85 minutes or its a draw that you maybe leave early?! ;-)

 

[congo_red_49]

Really?!! Erm could we come to some kind of arrangement that if we are a goal down at 85 minutes or its a draw that you maybe leave early?! ;-)

Less of a problem these days, I’m lucky if I can even get a ticket.

 

[Mcbeth99]

Less of a problem these days, I’m lucky if I can even get a ticket.

For the good of Forest, SOMEONE GET THIS PERSON A TICKET!!!

 

[Ian Moore Gone Little]

I remember attending a game against Swindon at the City Ground in October 1972 (the match
after Matt Gillies resigned).
We were 0-2 down with minutes left and the original paltry 8,000 crowd numbered about 4,000
as many had already headed home.Luckily,I stayed and saw goals from John Robertson
and Martin O’Neill in the final 2 minutes to secure an unlikely 2-2 draw.

I remember that game too, Cloughie. We were among the diehards waiting it out in the Main Stand. I was only 9, but my recollection is that when we pulled one back a few fans who had left early hurried back in through the open gate between the Main Stand and the Trent End and gathered to watch by the corner flag, then when we equalised even more appeared, but by then it was too late for any more goals.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I left after 58 minutes in Hughtons final game, shouting loudly 'I ain't coming back until the twat is sacked' as I went.

Clearly not a coincidence that he got removed thereafter and we ended up winning promotion, which I think makes me not only better than those who always stay until the end, but possibly the greatest fan in the history of NFFC.

 

[Redemption]

I left after 58 minutes in Hughtons final game, shouting loudly 'I ain't coming back until the twat is sacked' as I went.

Clearly not a coincidence that he got removed thereafter and we ended up winning promotion, which I think makes me not only better than those who always stay until the end, but possibly the greatest fan in the history of NFFC.

I've only left one match too. That was at Oldham when they beat us 3-0 and it saw the end of Megson.

I had to leave to get a train, the last one that would get me back to Liverpool that night.

I stretched it out until I could and with about 10 mins to go I left and started to walk up towards the station. I had not gone far out of the Ground when the Oldham fans cheered the 3rd goal. I secretly cheered too as I knew Megson was getting sacked in the morning.

Weirdest feeling on the way home, BBC 606 was corker that night tho.

 

[Timothy Pope]

Link below to a debate in the HoC regarding the Football Regulator:

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2023-11-08/debates/BE664B7B-2494-4C73-A21E-BE7B9D151B07/FootballRegulation

 

[valspoodle]

I guess like anyone who signed that petition, I got the email giving details of how to watch the debate and the extract from Hansard, but I'm just not in tune with politicians at the moment, so haven't bothered to follow it any further.

Anyway, it'll happen whatever I say or understand.