Nuno Herlander Simões Espírito Santo

[Est.1865]

With my journo hat on - that was a bloody awful interview - but he comes across as an intelligent chap. Doing all the right things, clean slate for players etc but I think he must be thinking this is a great job to take - even a smallish increase in our fortunes will keep us away from the drop zone given the quality that's below us and as its halfway through the season as long as it doesn't implode totally its a safe berth with an owner who you'd think will back his manager. Fingers crossed ...

Agreed, this season should pretty much be a free hit for Nuno, aside from a complete implosion like you said. One of the reasons I have been supportive of a change at this time. Couple of transfer windows heading into the 2024 season to sort the squad out to his taste as well.

Just avoid the implosion…..

 

[MASE]

I’m glad that after the initial shock of Cooper leaving people are opening up to the idea of Nuno moving the club forward.

He’s quite obviously a good manager, you don’t finish 7th two years on the spin and get to a Europa league QF with Wolves if you’re a poor manager.

Great achievement but he had very decent players at his disposal at Wolves.

This will test his management skills to the absolute maximum I feel. Certainly until we have another go in january.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Great achievement but he had very decent players at his disposal at Wolves.

This will test his management skills to the absolute maximum I feel. Certainly until we have another go in january.

After seeing Nuno state he prefers to work with smaller squads, hopefully Jan will see him use Mendes to shift the chaff out, and also charm Mendes and EM into bringing in genuine quality.

Only thing there is, have the past few window's now handicapped us financially too much to get the real quality which is needed to push on?

 

[Notcher]

 

[UnFrustratedRed]

He says at the end of the interview "Please give us a hand", that's what we can do so, COYR!!

 

[Notcher]

It's been bugging me for ages who Daniel Taylor looks like. It's taken Christmas to prompt me.

 

[Jimmy]

Also interesting that he doesn't really care for the youth side of things.

I don't have an issue with that. He's here as the first team coach, not the youth team coach. That should be his focus. As previously mentioned, he prefers to work with a small squad so if that's the case the youth team should be someone else's responsibility. No doubt he'll decide to trim the first team squad once he's worked out who he wants to keep.

 

[Monkman]

I think we're reasonable people. I'm still of the opinion that Cooper wasn't the problem and Nuno will be hamstrung by the same problems that Steve was, but that's not Nuno's fault.

He needs to get a load of players off the books before he can really make progress I think.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Great achievement but he had very decent players at his disposal at Wolves.

This will test his management skills to the absolute maximum I feel. Certainly until we have another go in january.

Surely one of the provisos of taking over was January investment. I expect to see the squad actually get smaller though.

Hopefully 7/8 out and 3/4 quality players in.

 

[Est.1865]

Surely one of the provisos of taking over was January investment. I expect to see the squad actually get smaller though.

Hopefully 7/8 out and 3/4 quality players in.

Difficult to ship out players with several years left on contracts who we’ve signed in the PL era given the future FFP hit would accelerate, but yep, send a few loanees back and 2/3 others that’s don’t significantly impact FFP.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Difficult to ship out players with several years left on contracts who we’ve signed in the PL era given the future FFP hit would accelerate, but yep, send a few loanees back and 2/3 others that’s don’t significantly impact FFP.

With the loanees I think sending them back might be more difficult than we think too, depending on their circumstances.

For example I could imagine Santos being recalled by Chelsea rather than us sending him back as he's young and needs experience which he's not been given here.

However with the others, particularly Origi and Montiel, I'd imagine that the parent club couldn't care less about the game time these players get. For them it's purely about getting rid of the wages off the books. So sending them back might not be an option, unless there's some sort of early termination penalty clause that we'd have to pay.

It's like us with our loanees. I'm sure deep down the club cares far more about the game-time Omar Richards gets than Jonjo Shelvey.

 

[Notcher]

Until listening to the Athletic podcast, I hadn't realised that Mendes and Nuno are actually best mates. Apparently from him being Mendes first client 20 years ago.

 

[Haych]

Until listening to the Athletic podcast, I hadn't realised that Mendes and Nuno are actually best mates. Apparently from him being Mendes first client 20 years ago.

Hopefully we actually get some of his decent clients in the team this time round then as he did well by Nuno previously with recruitment.

 

[That Grey Red]

Hi all, joined a couple of days ago to talk about the players and systems, but we know what happened so I backed off for a few days.

I am more positive for the future than a few days ago, Nuno, IMO is an excellent manager and even during the disaster at Spurs where he had 47% win ratio, that's not too bad.

What's saddened me the most this season has been the lack of any shape, lack of any "Forest Way" no keeping possession etc etc.
The only time they did was when the three CM's where Mangala, Sangare and Dominguez, they looked like a team but couldn't go on from it.
When I first saw Dominguez against Liverpool I said to my son he's the best Forest signing in a long time and during the next few matches my view of him even went higher. Then he gave a goal away and has never recovered his spark. Now some might disagree with me but I thought the manager could have handled this differently, you know the reassuring arm around the shoulder but Dominguez seemed to go out of favour just like others ie Worrall, McKenna and co and then Sangare. So I'm hoping the new manager (who will have his favourites) will get these good players playing again. Winning in style.

 

[youreds1986]

I don't buy the idea that we don't have quality in the squad. There's some good players there, we just have to find a way to get them playing.

 

[Statto]

Hi all, joined a couple of days ago to talk about the players and systems, but we know what happened so I backed off for a few days.

I am more positive for the future than a few days ago, Nuno, IMO is an excellent manager and even during the disaster at Spurs where he had 47% win ratio, that's not too bad.

What's saddened me the most this season has been the lack of any shape, lack of any "Forest Way" no keeping possession etc etc.
The only time they did was when the three CM's where Mangala, Sangare and Dominguez, they looked like a team but couldn't go on from it.
When I first saw Dominguez against Liverpool I said to my son he's the best Forest signing in a long time and during the next few matches my view of him even went higher. Then he gave a goal away and has never recovered his spark. Now some might disagree with me but I thought the manager could have handled this differently, you know the reassuring arm around the shoulder but Dominguez seemed to go out of favour just like others ie Worrall, McKenna and co and then Sangare. So I'm hoping the new manager (who will have his favourites) will get these good players playing again. Winning in style.

1 win in 13 since deadline day says a fair amount though.

We beat Chelsea away, but didn't really threaten them much from an attacking perspective either, think their goal was more Elanga capitalising on a mistake, and that was supposedly the high point this season.

So I suppose that even before that we weren't really doing that well - Arsenal we didn't look in it until they went 2-0 up and took their foot off a bit, Man Utd we were 2-0 up at their place after 4 mins and couldn't even hold on for a point, Burnley in the LC where we lost and didn't seem to lay a glove on them, then the narrow scraped results with Sheff Utd (late winner) and drawing with Burnley in the league, but we were picking up something.

Either side of the Villa game I suppose you could see the 1 win in 13 in two halves - before that we lost to Man City and Liverpool but drew the rest, after we drew with Wolves and lost the rest.

We might have looked better with Dominguez looking good and Sangare but we weren't picking up anything.

How good the deadline day recruitment was remains to be seen. We arguably might be missing Johnson more as an outlet as I don't see that either Elanga or CHO are equivalent in terms of the threat, although they are probably technically better players, most of the threat with Johnson was that he could kick the ball in front of him and then run after it - didn't he take out two different Southampton defenders in the games against them last season because of the threat? Elanga wouldn't look like doing that I don't think.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

Hopefully

Nuno, Nuno, there's no limit...

But what do I know, I thought Hughton was a masterstroke.

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[Notcher]

Hi all, joined a couple of days ago to talk about the players and systems, but we know what happened so I backed off for a few days.

I am more positive for the future than a few days ago, Nuno, IMO is an excellent manager and even during the disaster at Spurs where he had 47% win ratio, that's not too bad.

What's saddened me the most this season has been the lack of any shape, lack of any "Forest Way" no keeping possession etc etc.
The only time they did was when the three CM's where Mangala, Sangare and Dominguez, they looked like a team but couldn't go on from it.
When I first saw Dominguez against Liverpool I said to my son he's the best Forest signing in a long time and during the next few matches my view of him even went higher. Then he gave a goal away and has never recovered his spark. Now some might disagree with me but I thought the manager could have handled this differently, you know the reassuring arm around the shoulder but Dominguez seemed to go out of favour just like others ie Worrall, McKenna and co and then Sangare. So I'm hoping the new manager (who will have his favourites) will get these good players playing again. Winning in style.

I'll pick up with the Dominguez point. I'm firmly in the same camp as you. I thought that he looked like a special player, he pressed relentlessly all over the pitch, he's so high energy. He's an intelligent player too and was always available as an out ball whilst creating triangles to bounce passes and combination player around midfield. I would have brought him back in again personally.

Anyway to survive around here you'll need pictures of squirrels and redheads and an encyclopedic knowledge of Mein Kampf and Strummers sex life (all in jokes) you'll get there. Welcome.

 

[Green Jumper]

Introducing The Nuno Espirito Santo Rolling Scorecard 23/24 edition

It will likely be similar to before, just with a different name at the top.

A big welcome to the new boss and best wishes for his success at the WFCG.

He has pedigree in taking teams up the PL and something to prove now, so will hopefully get the benefit of strong fan support, regardless of how disappointed we are with the end of Steve Cooper's tenure.

 

[McKenzie]

I’m glad that after the initial shock of Cooper leaving people are opening up to the idea of Nuno moving the club forward.

He’s quite obviously a good manager, you don’t finish 7th two years on the spin and get to a Europa league QF with Wolves if you’re a poor manager.

I do agree with this to a point but I still remember posts of "He got West Brom promoted twice" about Megson..!

 

[EmmersonForest4]

We all thought Hughton was a great manager and he was really. I’ve learnt more and more my many years watching football. A good manager dosen’t mean they’ll fit for you. What I wanted from a new manager is someone who can get different things out the team than cooper did.

 

[congo_red_49]

We all thought Hughton was a great manager and he was really. I’ve learnt more and more my many years watching football. A good manager dosen’t mean they’ll fit for you.

This is true. Hughton would have been the perfect fit for any team of players that would have benefited from being told they were crap.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

We all thought Hughton was a great manager and he was really. I’ve learnt more and more my many years watching football. A good manager dosen’t mean they’ll fit for you. What I wanted from a new manager is someone who can get different things out the team than cooper did.

The older I get the more I feel that football management is more luck than judgement. Sometimes managers just happen to be in exactly the right environment for them, the squad is exactly what suits their football and it's all a success. Then they move and the same bloke can't get a tune out of a new group of players.

Megson at WBA or Hughton at Brighton are good examples. Sometimes the stars align and it just works.

There aren't many managers who can go from job to job and be successful everywhere.

 

[That Grey Red]

I'll pick up with the Dominguez point. I'm firmly in the same camp as you. I thought that he looked like a special player, he pressed relentlessly all over the pitch, he's so high energy. He's an intelligent player too and was always available as an out ball whilst creating triangles to bounce passes and combination player around midfield. I would have brought him back in again personally.

Anyway to survive around here you'll need pictures of squirrels and redheads and an encyclopedic knowledge of Mein Kampf and Strummers sex life (all in jokes) you'll get there. Welcome.

Thank you.

 

[Strummer]

Hi all, joined a couple of days ago to talk about the players and systems, but we know what happened so I backed off for a few days.

I am more positive for the future than a few days ago, Nuno, IMO is an excellent manager and even during the disaster at Spurs where he had 47% win ratio, that's not too bad.

What's saddened me the most this season has been the lack of any shape, lack of any "Forest Way" no keeping possession etc etc.
The only time they did was when the three CM's where Mangala, Sangare and Dominguez, they looked like a team but couldn't go on from it.
When I first saw Dominguez against Liverpool I said to my son he's the best Forest signing in a long time and during the next few matches my view of him even went higher. Then he gave a goal away and has never recovered his spark. Now some might disagree with me but I thought the manager could have handled this differently, you know the reassuring arm around the shoulder but Dominguez seemed to go out of favour just like others ie Worrall, McKenna and co and then Sangare. So I'm hoping the new manager (who will have his favourites) will get these good players playing again. Winning in style.

You should post more often.