Redofheaven2
First Team Squad
Ok but I’m sure last season the won on the argument that they were not under football league jurisdictions.
Financial Fair Play (FFP)
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Irish Wolf
First Team Squad
To paraphrase Woody Allen in 'Bananas'.
"I object, your honor! PSR is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham."
"I object, your honor! PSR is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham."
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
My interpretation is that they acknowledge that it's the way to go. It worked for us, it might work for Ipswich. And this makes a mockery of FFP at its core.
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GaryCrosbysStepOver
Geoff Thomas
This seems to prove an independent regulator is needed.
The PL can’t even appoint lawyers that can write rules clearly.
The PL can’t even appoint lawyers that can write rules clearly.
Est.1865
Premier League Survivors
We’d likely deserve to be relegated in those circumstance. Why would you want to hide behind that as an excuse, especially in year 3.
MansfieldRed
Jack Armstrong
Okay, from what I understand, and again I could be wrong, I look at it this way. Using my US state law as an example.
You break a state law in, say, Texas that is not a state crime in California for example. You leave Texas and go to Califronia, then the state of Texas cannot press charges against you as they do not have the jurisdiction to do so. Instead the law enforcement have to wait for you to return to Texas, but by the time they've been able to do that the statute of limitations has passed and they cannot charge you at all for that crime.
From all I understand (again, could be wrong) this is what has happened. Leicester breached, but by the time the EPL could charge them they were under the jursidiction of the EFL, a separate governing body that don't have the power to enact EPL punishments. Leicester got promoted, but the time range to charge them had run out so they cannot be charged for that time period they breached. They would have gotten a points deduction during the 23/24 season same as us and Everton, but they've skirted around it because they were in the Championship.
So in essence they did break the rules, but because of poorly thought out and and even worse worded terms they have found a loophole to avoid being charged for their breach during that time period.
For a third time, I could be mistaken. Qutie easily in fact. It is just how it comes across to me.
Bing Crosby's Head
Geoff Thomas
In other news, the Premier League have approved Chelsea's hotel sales that kept them within PSR. Nothing dodgy there at all 
I’m becoming more and more disillusioned with football. Loophole after loophole. Not a good look for the Premier League this.In other news, the Premier League have approved Chelsea's hotel sales that kept them within PSR. Nothing dodgy there at all
Notcher
Ian Bowyer
It's not in question whether they breached, they definitely did, the barristers have just got them off on a written technicality. I heard Simon Jordon earlier describing it as them disappearing into a Bermuda Triangle which perfectly sums it up.
Notcher
Ian Bowyer
This type of thing is exactly what will end the Premier League. They need to get a grip of it and quickly.
Leicester must have hired Robert Massingbird, to get themselves acquitted so cleanly?
I expect an imminent apology from the Premier League, followed by them offering 250m quid to Leicester in compo, as well as a bonus ten points each season for the next three years.
MansfieldRed
Jack Armstrong
It was more about uncertainty on my explanation on the arguement Leicester made and succeeded with. I was certain of the breach.
Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
Blackadder:
I remember Massingbird's most famous case: the Case of the Bloody Knife. A man was found next to a murdered body. He had the knife in his hand. 13 witnesses had seen him stab the victim. And when the police arrived, he said "I'm glad I killed the bastard." Massingbird not only got him off; he got him knighted in the New Year's Honours List. And the relatives of the victim had to pay to wash the blood out of his jacket!
I remember Massingbird's most famous case: the Case of the Bloody Knife. A man was found next to a murdered body. He had the knife in his hand. 13 witnesses had seen him stab the victim. And when the police arrived, he said "I'm glad I killed the bastard." Massingbird not only got him off; he got him knighted in the New Year's Honours List. And the relatives of the victim had to pay to wash the blood out of his jacket!
Perkins:
I hear he's a dab hand at the prosecution as well, sir.
I hear he's a dab hand at the prosecution as well, sir.
Blackadder:
Yes, well, look at Oscar Wilde.
Yes, well, look at Oscar Wilde.
Perkins:
Ol' butch Oscar.
Ol' butch Oscar.
Blackadder:
Yep! Big, bearded, bonking, butch Oscar. The terror of the ladies. 114 illegitimate children, world heavyweight boxing champion and author of the best-selling pamphlet "Why I Like To Do It With Girls." And Massingbird had him sent down for being a whoopsie.
Yep! Big, bearded, bonking, butch Oscar. The terror of the ladies. 114 illegitimate children, world heavyweight boxing champion and author of the best-selling pamphlet "Why I Like To Do It With Girls." And Massingbird had him sent down for being a whoopsie.
Absolutely, we are the most watched league in the world and everything that goes off is under the microscope. Premier League needs some fresh faces at the top.
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Stuart Pearce
Master Yates
Stuart Pearce
If 43 is a reference to his birth year, YouReds43 would in fact be 81yo this year.
A Leicester style reprieve from the charges perhaps…..?
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
It is a bit, in reality there should be some sort of reciprocal arrangement wiht the PL and EFL that they would be able to carry through points sanctions imposed on a club when they change memberships, and for a club which either breaches EPL rules during a season they are relegated, or for one which breaches EFL rules whilst getting promoted to the EPL, to be punished by the league for the sanctions during this period. So the EPL should be able to charge Leicester for going over EPL limits whilst they were in the EPL and for the punishment to either be translated to the EFL season or to be applied on the occasion they get promoted back.
In your example what would presumably happen is that Texas would have an extradition arrangement with California for the hearing to be mandated and the charge to either be held under Texas law in California or for them to order your return to Texas to be tried there. It wouldn't quite be the same as someone in Texas doing something which is legal in Texas but not in California and the latter getting all faffy about it. Of course the internet makes this kind of global jurisdiction a bit harder; if someone was in the UK and did something which was legal in the UK but not in the US on the internet, at what point would the US be able to do anything (such as order extradition) even if it was done to a system or person in the US?
Dogtitius
NorCal
Unrelated to the topic at and but I f***ing hate Texas for banning abortions.
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Tbf the choice to keep it in your pants is always there
Dogtitius
NorCal
uredsuns
Rice 13
Sadly not everyone consents to sex.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
In most cases though...
Somewhat academic really - I don't necessarily agree with abortion myself, but there are occasions where it's the best outcome for medical or other reasons (e.g. rape as you're implying) and indeed the right to a choice should be respected. So the right to have one should always be there.
Further evidence of the incompetence of the PL governance.
LCFC are morally guilty but legally not guilty.
Thee is no point wasting time and money to appeal the decision.
We have to focus on our forthcoming fixtures and achieve the points needed to secure our PL membership.
Off the pitch it’s up to NFFC and other PL clubs to close this and other loopholes.
The relationship between PL & EFL is poor - this latest PSR decision was an accident waiting to happen.
All PL clubs look to bend the PSR rules for their own benefit. Ironically the building of the LCFC stadium was a contributory factor in bringing in new financial rules (ultimately PSR).
For what it’s worth my understanding of our player dealings with NUFC in the close season was that we agreed a purchase fee of £30m, and a sale fee of £20m. Of course there is no evidence of this, but if correct it would suit both clubs for PSR purposes - and a great football decision for Forest.
We have two tough away games coming up - preparation for LFC will be tough with so many players away on international duty ( and possible injuries). Our focus must be on the games.
LCFC are morally guilty but legally not guilty.
Thee is no point wasting time and money to appeal the decision.
We have to focus on our forthcoming fixtures and achieve the points needed to secure our PL membership.
Off the pitch it’s up to NFFC and other PL clubs to close this and other loopholes.
The relationship between PL & EFL is poor - this latest PSR decision was an accident waiting to happen.
All PL clubs look to bend the PSR rules for their own benefit. Ironically the building of the LCFC stadium was a contributory factor in bringing in new financial rules (ultimately PSR).
For what it’s worth my understanding of our player dealings with NUFC in the close season was that we agreed a purchase fee of £30m, and a sale fee of £20m. Of course there is no evidence of this, but if correct it would suit both clubs for PSR purposes - and a great football decision for Forest.
We have two tough away games coming up - preparation for LFC will be tough with so many players away on international duty ( and possible injuries). Our focus must be on the games.
Dogtitius
NorCal
I think in Texas the only exception is if the pregnancy endangers the mother but idk the timelines.
BristolfaninPeace
First Team Squad
Just on the Player Trading let's call it, between clubs close to limits prior to 30th June.
4, 5, 6 clubs Idk.
EFL version of P&S would effectively negate this a
4, 5, 6 clubs Idk.
EFL version of P&S would effectively negate this a
This would prevent such transactions prior to 30th June as all the Clubs with a Forecast overspend would basically be Embargoed simultaneously and as we know Soft Embargo prevents inbound Additions for Fees.