Does anyone remember sheep shagging Derby County? (STILL the worst team in history!)

[I'm Red Till Dead]

When I came in it was 2-0 to Swansea. To be honest Swansea have been awful since I put the game on. So many bad passes which have gone to Derby players, poor attempts at dribbling or kicking out from the back straight to Derby players. Swansea look like they will need luck to hang on.

 

[GOBIAS]

The BBC really need someone checking these attendances before they print them.

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If Derby say it is 25k it is probably 20k and half of them are given away!

 

[Gaz1980]

Never known a fan base so obsessed with attendances than them.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure that during them being in admin, they were struggling to muster over 20,000 and were quite happy staying away and letting their shitty club die.

I miss those times.

 

[Ashley]

Never known a fan base so obsessed with attendances than them.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure that during them being in admin, they were struggling to muster over 20,000 and were quite happy staying away and letting their shitty club die.

I miss those times.

It's all they have. Their stadium is crap and soulless, their history/honours list is nothing to write home about and the club itself just isn't particularly interesting in any way.

And even their attendance figures are dubious. Every time I see any pictures or footage of any of their home games their ground always looks half empty, yet they always claim to be getting these massive attendances. Very strange.

 

[Bryn Gunn]

It's all they have. Their stadium is crap and soulless, their history/honours list is nothing to write home about and the club itself just isn't particularly interesting in any way.

And even their attendance figures are dubious. Every time I see any pictures or footage of any of their home games their ground always looks half empty, yet they always claim to be getting these massive attendances. Very strange.

True, they were the same in the mid 80’s when they went down to the 3rd Division. Best fans, best atmosphere, best songs, best away following, best attendances… to hear them talk.

I’m not sure if attendance figures go on tickets sold/given away, not clicks through the turnstile. Because as you both pointed out, the figures don’t look right compared to footage. Maybe loads of them don’t leave the concourse because the football is that bad

 

[congo_red_49]

I’m not sure if attendance figures go on tickets sold/given away, not clicks through the turnstile.

I'm pretty sure this was discovered to be the case a few seasons back.

 

[Trents]

Next up for them is the visit of a Sheff Weds side coming of the back of a win at Hull. After that the run to end of year sees:

Leeds(A)
Burnley(A)
Pompey(H)
Luton(A)
West Brom(H)
Leeds(H)

They'll be going into 2025 looking over their shoulder at the looming relegation zone.

 

[Cloughie1975]

Next up for them is the visit of a Sheff Weds side coming of the back of a win at Hull. After that the run to end of year sees:

Leeds(A)
Burnley(A)
Pompey(H)
Luton(A)
West Brom(H)
Leeds(H)

They'll be going into 2025 looking over their shoulder at the looming relegation zone.

Yes-my Derby friend fears a bad run coming up.

 

[RichNFFC]

Never known a fan base so obsessed with attendances than them.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure that during them being in admin, they were struggling to muster over 20,000 and were quite happy staying away and letting their shitty club die.

I miss those times.

Yup, just 22k at their last-ever Derby

 

[congo_red_49]

They'll be going into 2025 looking over their shoulder at the looming relegation zone.

Still over-achieving on where I expected them to be.

Sure they're just happy to have a club though.

 

[Ian Moore Gone Little]

True, they were the same in the mid 80’s when they went down to the 3rd Division. Best fans, best atmosphere, best songs, best away following, best attendances… to hear them talk.

I’m not sure if attendance figures go on tickets sold/given away, not clicks through the turnstile. Because as you both pointed out, the figures don’t look right compared to footage. Maybe loads of them don’t leave the concourse because the football is that bad

For reasons that now escape me, several years ago I researched our home attendances in our three years in the third tier (League games only, not including the traumatic Yeovil play-off).Over the three years we averaged just over 20,000, which I thought was decent in the circumstances. So I wondered what the club from so-called “football town” had averaged in their stint down there in the 1980s. I can’t recall the exact figure but it was something like 10,000.

 

[Cloughie1975]

For reasons that now escape me, several years ago I researched our home attendances in our three years in the third tier (League games only, not including the traumatic Yeovil play-off).Over the three years we averaged just over 20,000, which I thought was decent in the circumstances. So I wondered what the club from so-called “football town” had averaged in their stint down there in the 1980s. I can’t recall the exact figure but it was something like 10,000.

Yes, but Forest only averaged 16,000 in that period (84-86) when we were still in the top half of the 1st Division.
Attendances were greatly suppressed everywhere in the 80s generally (due to hooliganism and various disasters).

 

[Ian Moore Gone Little]

Yes, but Forest only averaged 16,000 in that period (84-86) when we were still in the top half of the 1st Division.
Attendances were greatly suppressed everywhere in the 80s generally (due to hooliganism and various disasters).

True. Even the likes of Newcastle were getting crowds in the teens of thousands and some members of the then Big 6 like Arsenal and Tottenham were only just clearing 20,000.

 

[DanR]

True. Even the likes of Newcastle were getting crowds in the teens of thousands and some members of the then Big 6 like Arsenal and Tottenham were only just clearing 20,000.

Surely Newcastle have always had massive crowds, they are the Premier League version of Attendance FC.

 

[Rzar]

Never known a fan base so obsessed with attendances than them.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm sure that during them being in admin, they were struggling to muster over 20,000 and were quite happy staying away and letting their shitty club die.

I miss those times.

The irony is it's so disingenuous! They had 27k average last season which is pretty much a sellout, yet the stadium was half empty for a load of the games.

They have been inflated their attendance figures for years, so the only thing they think they have going for them isn't even true.

This game is listed as 27,000 in attendance! By the way, I just picked a random game from last season & searched for a video. I wasn't even being selective there.

 

[Ashley]

The irony is it's so disingenuous! They had 27k average last season which is pretty much a sellout, yet the stadium was half empty for a load of the games.

They have been inflated their attendance figures for years, so the only thing they think they have going for them isn't even true.

This game is listed as 27,000 in attendance! By the way, I just picked a random game from last season & searched for a video. I wasn't even being selective there.

Watching highlights of games from last night on YouTube earlier and came across the highlights of their game last night. Looked similar to that, empty seats everywhere.

I genuinely don't understand why they do it. What do they get out of so obviously lying about their attendances? It's proper weird.

 

[Ian Moore Gone Little]

Watching highlights of games from last night on YouTube earlier and came across the highlights of their game last night. Looked similar to that, empty seats everywhere.

I genuinely don't understand why they do it. What do they get out of so obviously lying about their attendances? It's proper weird.

A lot of people wondered if we did something similar in the 80s. In the days when both ends were terraces we had something like 14,000 seats between the (then) Main and Executive Stands. There’d be a game where perhaps 500 seats max weren’t taken (so about 13,500 were in use) and they’d announce a crowd of something like 16,500 (as mentioned elsewhere, mid-80s crowds were low by modern standards due to hooliganism and widespread economic hardship). That would suggest only 3,000 or so were standing in the Trent and Bridgford Ends when the eye test suggested there were more than that.

 

[Cloughie1975]

A lot of people wondered if we did something similar in the 80s. In the days when both ends were terraces we had something like 14,000 seats between the (then) Main and Executive Stands. There’d be a game where perhaps 500 seats max weren’t taken (so about 13,500 were in use) and they’d announce a crowd of something like 16,500 (as mentioned elsewhere, mid-80s crowds were low by modern standards due to hooliganism and widespread economic hardship). That would suggest only 3,000 or so were standing in the Trent and Bridgford Ends when the eye test suggested there were more than that.

I went to many games in the mid 80s when there were large gaps around me in the upper BC and
clearly large spaces in the Main Stand (and visible bare terrace on the Bridgford).
I’ve never understood the ‘I’ve got a bigger one than you’ attitude of many football fans.

 

[GOBIAS]

Yes, but Forest only averaged 16,000 in that period (84-86) when we were still in the top half of the 1st Division.
Attendances were greatly suppressed everywhere in the 80s generally (due to hooliganism and various disasters).

They put themselves forward as some sort of ‘football town’ though, whatever that means.

But their crowds in the 80’s were as low as 11k average and mid teens until the new ground was built and they attracted a new type of fan.

But if you dig deeper before Clough came they also had similar poor average crowds in the 60’s. 11k was an average one season and loads of mid teens average. Not what you’d expect from a ‘football town TM’.

 

[Cloughie1975]

They put themselves forward as some sort of ‘football town’ though, whatever that means.

But their crowds in the 80’s were as low as 11k average and mid teens until the new ground was built and they attracted a new type of fan.

But if you dig deeper before Clough came they also had similar poor average crowds in the 60’s. 11k was an average one season and loads of mid teens average. Not what you’d expect from a ‘football town TM’.

Agreed-I think BC was wrong with his ‘football town’ comment (Nottingham has 2 football league sides
after all).
Derby do attract good support from outlying Derbyshire areas when they are doing well though (especially
in the Clough era and I dare say from the Nottinghamshire border area in that period).

 

[sammy the snake]

Tbh Swansea were really poor bar the goals. Derby were making the runs and trying to get that weird bastard lang to cross the ball, half the time overhit lol. That’s was a significant defeat for the massed 55000 in the stadium

 

[Ian Moore Gone Little]

They put themselves forward as some sort of ‘football town’ though, whatever that means.

But their crowds in the 80’s were as low as 11k average and mid teens until the new ground was built and they attracted a new type of fan.

But if you dig deeper before Clough came they also had similar poor average crowds in the 60’s. 11k was an average one season and loads of mid teens average. Not what you’d expect from a ‘football town TM’.

Yes, that was largely why I was commenting. We’re seldom comparing like with like when we look at Forest and Derby anyway because of the size of the cities, number of League clubs and, from time to time, being in different divisions. And that’s before you bring in economic circumstances, etc. But somehow over the years we got lumbered with the ‘fickle’ label and Derby with the ‘football town’ thing.

Any one-club town becomes a ‘football town’ when things are going well because the permanent and floating support will all be for the one club. I never felt our fans were any more fickle than anyone else’s, even in the early 70s when capacities were much greater before all-seater grounds came along and we’d struggle to get five figures one week then 40,000 would turn up to see the bigger clubs, as other clubs had similar disparities.

 

[Cloughie1975]

Yes, that was largely why I was commenting. We’re seldom comparing like with like when we look at Forest and Derby anyway because of the size of the cities, number of League clubs and, from time to time, being in different divisions. And that’s before you bring in economic circumstances, etc. But somehow over the years we got lumbered with the ‘fickle’ label and Derby with the ‘football town’ thing.

Any one-club town becomes a ‘football town’ when things are going well because the permanent and floating support will all be for the one club. I never felt our fans were any more fickle than anyone else’s, even in the early 70s when capacities were much greater before all-seater grounds came along and we’d struggle to get five figures one week then 40,000 would turn up to see the bigger clubs, as other clubs had similar disparities.

Yes-most provincial clubs become ‘footballing towns’ when things are going well.

 

[GOBIAS]

Yes, that was largely why I was commenting. We’re seldom comparing like with like when we look at Forest and Derby anyway because of the size of the cities, number of League clubs and, from time to time, being in different divisions. And that’s before you bring in economic circumstances, etc. But somehow over the years we got lumbered with the ‘fickle’ label and Derby with the ‘football town’ thing.

Any one-club town becomes a ‘football town’ when things are going well because the permanent and floating support will all be for the one club. I never felt our fans were any more fickle than anyone else’s, even in the early 70s when capacities were much greater before all-seater grounds came along and we’d struggle to get five figures one week then 40,000 would turn up to see the bigger clubs, as other clubs had similar disparities.

Football habits were different. Now thousands of people buy a season ticket and go religiously. Back then you just rocked up and piled in. So as you say a big club could get 22k one week and 50 or 60k the next. You just wouldn’t get that now, no such a disparity from one league game to another.

 

[Rzar]

Watching highlights of games from last night on YouTube earlier and came across the highlights of their game last night. Looked similar to that, empty seats everywhere.

I genuinely don't understand why they do it. What do they get out of so obviously lying about their attendances? It's proper weird.

Probably to make them more appealing to sponsors & to potential buyers

It definitely shouldn't be allowed.