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Champion's League??

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
On the contrary, they can give us the proceeds of the financial settlement and we can go and finish fourth anyway.
 

Timothy Pope

I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
A points deduction for Chelsea should also make it more difficult for City should they avoid having their 114 charges swept under the carpet.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
A points deduction for Chelsea should also make it more difficult for City should they avoid having their 114 charges swept under the carpet.
Good point. They can show some consistency in their approach to sanctions and make life more difficult for City to cry claims of being victimised or harshly treated.

In that respect the PL should size opportunity of this tapping on this open goal.

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redforest

Geoff Thomas
Good point. They can show some consistency in their approach to sanctions and make life more difficult for City to cry claims of being victimised or harshly treated.

In that respect the PL should size opportunity of this tapping on this open goal.

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I think you will find the FA doing a Roger Davies (for those with very long memories of always laughing at Derby even when they were good) when it comes to this particular tap in. Not a chance either of these 2 teams getting a points reduction
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
I think you will find the FA doing a Roger Davies (for those with very long memories of always laughing at Derby even when they were good) when it comes to this particular tap in. Not a chance either of these 2 teams getting a points reduction
If not, then seriously what's the point in having them? Tens of millions spent for what?

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Timothy Pope

I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
I think you will find the FA doing a Roger Davies (for those with very long memories of always laughing at Derby even when they were good) when it comes to this particular tap in. Not a chance either of these 2 teams getting a points reduction
If so, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marinakis pile on with litigation
 

Strummer

Vorsprung durch Technik
LTLF Minion
They actually predicted us to finish 17th from the bottom
Pretty accurate I think
I think maybe their Intern unfortunately had the table upside-down?
 

Trents

Stuart Pearce
Had some time to do some predicting on https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/ This is what I ended up with going into the last round of games:

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Templeton

First Team Squad

Sooty

A. Trialist
I’m all for a sober assessment of our chances vis-a-vis the other contenders, but I can’t see us going into the final game of the season and being eight points behind City.
 

nffcjoe

Jack Armstrong
I've done a write up on my blog of our Champions League hopes, looking at our history in Europe, the season so far and predicting the run in. Give it a read if you have a spare 10 minutes.


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GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Now that we have more or less secured Champions League for next season, EM should probably start negotiations with UEFA in order to find out what it would take to fulfill the requirements of article 5, regarding multi-ownership (https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regula...cle-4-Admission-criteria-and-procedure-Online). The way I see it, the only tricky part for him might be that he would have to temporarily hand over his shares of one of the two clubs to a blind trust (for as long as both clubs compete in the same European competition). He won't like it, but I don't see how he can get away with not doing it.

The timeline is pretty strict: as soon as domestic competitions end, and European tickets are confirmed in may, UEFA's Club Financial Control Body opens a file on clubs owned by the same owner and expects the appropriate steps to have been taken by June 3 at the latest.
 

Steve Stone’s Brylcreem

First Team Squad
Now that we have more or less secured Champions League for next season, EM should probably start negotiations with UEFA in order to find out what it would take to fulfill the requirements of article 5, regarding multi-ownership (https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regula...cle-4-Admission-criteria-and-procedure-Online). The way I see it, the only tricky part for him might be that he would have to temporarily hand over his shares of one of the two clubs to a blind trust (for as long as both clubs compete in the same European competition). He won't like it, but I don't see how he can get away with not doing it.

The timeline is pretty strict: as soon as domestic competitions end, and European tickets are confirmed in may, UEFA's Club Financial Control Body opens a file on clubs owned by the same owner and expects the appropriate steps to have been taken by June 3 at the latest.
No legal entity can have “control or influence” over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition, and European football’s governing body must be satisfied that the respective clubs are separate entities to maintain their tournaments’ integrity.

Forest want to be prepared for the eventuality and arrangements will require some tinkering, with Marinakis’ football stable including a trio of clubs. When Sokratis Kominakis — who secured a minority stake in Forest amid the Marinakis takeover in 2017 — stepped down from his position on the Forest board, it was the first step towards completing those alterations.

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Steve Stone’s Brylcreem

First Team Squad
There are no concerns behind the scenes about Forest and Olympiacos complying with UEFA’s requirements. In July last year, UEFA ruled that multi-club pairs Manchester City and Girona, as well as Manchester United and Nice, could compete in the same European competitions this season. UEFA said that in both instances, the clubs “will not transfer players to each other, whether permanently or on loan, directly or indirectly, from July 2024 until September 2025, with the exception of pre-existing transfer agreements”.

Big man already making plans? Can’t imagine he’d let it slip by with no plan but who does he “favour”?
 
I've done a write up on my blog of our Champions League hopes, looking at our history in Europe, the season so far and predicting the run in. Give it a read if you have a spare 10 minutes.


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Nice blog and thanks for drawing it to our attention. You might want to make a couple of corrections though:

- We had already competed twice in the Fairs Cup (which later became the UEFA Cup) in the 1960s, so the two European Cup-winning campaigns weren’t our first games in Europe.
- The 2-1 defeat against Bayern was the first leg; the second leg was at home (lost 5-1 despite battering them for the first half-hour!).
- We finished 16th not 17th in our first season back in the Premier League.

I hope that doesn’t come over as too critical, though, as it’s a nice-looking piece that certainly summarises our current situation well, especially for any neutral readers.
 

Grass

Jack Armstrong
There are no concerns behind the scenes about Forest and Olympiacos complying with UEFA’s requirements. In July last year, UEFA ruled that multi-club pairs Manchester City and Girona, as well as Manchester United and Nice, could compete in the same European competitions this season. UEFA said that in both instances, the clubs “will not transfer players to each other, whether permanently or on loan, directly or indirectly, from July 2024 until September 2025, with the exception of pre-existing transfer agreements”.

Big man already making plans? Can’t imagine he’d let it slip by with no plan but who does he “favour”?
Dude thanks for clearing that up
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
When Sokratis Kominakis — who secured a minority stake in Forest amid the Marinakis takeover in 2017 — stepped down from his position on the Forest board, it was the first step towards completing those alterations.

As I said when this interpretation made its way to the media, this makes no sense. Kominakis left the Board of Olympiacos 13 years ago. His stepping down from the Board of Forest has therefore nothing to do with the multi-ownership problem.
 

YouReds43

Viv Anderson
As I said when this interpretation made its way to the media, this makes no sense. Kominakis left the Board of Olympiacos 13 years ago. His stepping down from the Board of Forest has therefore nothing to do with the multi-ownership problem.
Ioannis Vrentrosz has left our board as he is still on Olympiacos board correct?
 

nffcjoe

Jack Armstrong
Nice blog and thanks for drawing it to our attention. You might want to make a couple of corrections though:

- We had already competed twice in the Fairs Cup (which later became the UEFA Cup) in the 1960s, so the two European Cup-winning campaigns weren’t our first games in Europe.
- The 2-1 defeat against Bayern was the first leg; the second leg was at home (lost 5-1 despite battering them for the first half-hour!).
- We finished 16th not 17th in our first season back in the Premier League.

I hope that doesn’t come over as too critical, though, as it’s a nice-looking piece that certainly summarises our current situation well, especially for any neutral readers.
Appreciate the feedback, thank you. I didn't live through any of the European campaigns so I was looking at second hand sources for a lot of the history and didn't pay close enough attention to the Munich one. Have made the amendments to it now

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