Brennan Price Johnson

Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

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Well, he couldn't get a start at Forest when we had that brilliant run in.
Many folk around me in the LBC said we looked a better team without our superstar in the starting line-up.
The lad needs a bit of time.
My old friend's (Andrew - RIP) widow used to teach Brennan.
She said he was a lovely lad, but very shy and quiet.
I think his father has pushed him into the spotlight, and Brennan will either have to get used to it, or he will struggle.
Personally, I hope he overcomes any initial settling-in problems, and continues to develop into the player we all thought he could be.
Big mistake to go to Spuds though.
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Monkman said:
Yeah I'll come back to the main thrust of my original point (regardless of Johnson's position or Spurs' opinion of him) which is that I'm pretty happy with our end of the deal with Elanga.
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I am too for what it's worth.

Especially as it wasn't just the swap+£32m but also that additional money helped bring in players like Dominguez and Sangare.

Hard to say bye to Johnson who was great for us but it's the sort of strategic deal that Brighton seemingly do every year.
 
Captain Sinister

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MaxiRobriguez said:
I am too for what it's worth.

Especially as it wasn't just the swap+£32m but also that additional money helped bring in players like Dominguez and Sangare.

Hard to say bye to Johnson who was great for us but it's the sort of strategic deal that Brighton seemingly do every year.
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Our problem is that at the moment we are missing Brenna's raw energy and strikers instinct for goal.
Elanga is growing into the role, but Brennan did score a good few goals early on in the Prem last season.
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Captain Sinister said:
Our problem is that at the moment we are missing Brenna's raw energy and strikers instinct for goal.
Elanga is growing into the role, but Brennan did score a good few goals early on in the Prem last season.
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Agree but we're shifted the way we're set up to a back four, more control of the ball in midfield, and Johnson would likely not have had as big as impact as he did last year as our ability to transition quickly from the back isn't quite there this year precisely because we've got more of the ball and because opposition defences are deeper than they were last season as they can't peg us in our own half.

Still need to do some work in January to add to our attacking options but overall I'm glad we're moving away from the one dimensional approach of give it to MGW who'll pop it over the top for Johnson to chase. It worked until teams worked out how to nullify him, which is why we didn't see him much in the run-in last season.
 
Monkman

Monkman

Geoff Thomas
Captain Sinister said:
Our problem is that at the moment we are missing Brenna's raw energy and strikers instinct for goal.
Elanga is growing into the role, but Brennan did score a good few goals early on in the Prem last season.
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Via the magic of the internet and statistics, I'm going to disagree here. At this stage last season Brennan had 2 goals and 0 assists, vs Elanga on 2 goals and 3 assists.
 
Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.

Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.

Fulchester United
Captain Sinister said:
Our problem is that at the moment we are missing Brenna's raw energy and strikers instinct for goal.
Elanga is growing into the role, but Brennan did score a good few goals early on in the Prem last season.
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I don't think there's much in it.
Elanga forges into the box and dithers then loses the ball.
Brennan forged into the box and often hit the ball straight at the keeper.
Same outcome.
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD. said:
I don't think there's much in it.
Elanga forges into the box and dithers then loses the ball.
Brennan forged into the box and often hit the ball straight at the keeper.
Same outcome.
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Brennan scored 8 goals and was credited with 3 assists last season.
In the context of a 21-year old (at the time) playing his first season in the Premier League, for a team in its first season back in the Premier League after an absence of 23 years, and a team that was a bookies' favourite to be immediately relegated, 8 goals and 3 assists was a terrific return.
Elanga has joined, after several seasons experience with an established Premier League club, a club that is in its 2nd season in the Premier League that has strengthened its playing squad considerably.
Despite Elanga (also 21 at this stage) looking to be a decent replacement, i wonder how Johnno would be faring with the better players around him.
That is a bit of a moot point though, as without the Johnson money we would potentially not have been able to sign the quality players we did.
I think we would be better with Johnson, surrounded by the other talent, but that is just my opinion.
 
Redemption

Redemption

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They're different players with different assets, different history's but the price difference is probably much wider than the real difference between the players.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Captain Sinister said:
Our problem is that at the moment we are missing Brenna's raw energy and strikers instinct for goal.
Elanga is growing into the role, but Brennan did score a good few goals early on in the Prem last season.
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Not convinced there is any truth to that, we are scoring at a higher rate than last season. No doubt we were going to miss Brennan's pace/instinct but I am not convinced we would be any better off with it so far this season.

If you offered the output Elanga has given us when we sold Johnson, I would have snapped your hand off.

And the point about we would have been better off with Johnson with the better talent around him, well that's a mute point because we only got those players because we sold Johnson.
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Redemption said:
They're different players with different assets, different history's but the price difference is probably much wider than the real difference between the players.
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Let's be honest: no one on here really believed Brennan was worth £47m upfront.
If it was a staged deal, say £20m, then £10m after x appearances, then another £10m after he'd scored x goals; and then a final £10m if spurs got a Champions' League place this season, then that would have made more sense to me.
But £47m as an outright price was probably £10m more than it should have been.
 
Monkman

Monkman

Geoff Thomas
The other thing with Elanga is he already has quite a nice little understanding with Taiwo. The goal at Arsenal (which I might be inclined to call our goal of the season so far - CHO's was just one (extremely good) hit, while that goal had so many good things that all came together), the Chelsea goal (Taiwo's assist was * chef's kiss *), the 1-2s that should have led to Taiwo's second at West Ham, and some other good moments.
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Rzar said:
Not convinced there is any truth to that, we are scoring at a higher rate than last season. No doubt we were going to miss Brennan's pace/instinct but I am not convinced we would be any better off with it so far this season.

If you offered the output Elanga has given us when we sold Johnson, I would have snapped your hand off.
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I have to agree... I just miss seeing Brennan rip defences apart, and that he was "one of our own".
 
Monkman

Monkman

Geoff Thomas
Captain Sinister said:
Let's be honest: no one on here really believed Brennan was worth £47m upfront.
If it was a staged deal, say £20m, then £10m after x appearances, then another £10m after he'd scored x goals; and then a final £10m if spurs got a Champions' League place this season, then that would have made more sense to me.
But £47m as an outright price was probably £10m more than it should have been.
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I disagree, at the time most of us seemed to think that we should turn down anything less than £60m. Just go back in this thread. In hindsight I agree we did pretty well at £47.5m.
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Monkman said:
I disagree, at the time most of us seemed to think that we should turn down anything less than £60m. Just go back in this thread. In hindsight I agree we did pretty well at £47.5m.
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£60m was a bit of a "hope" number.
I recall most posters on here saying they'd take offers over £40m.
 
Redemption

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Tactical Flexibility
Funnily, enough the further you go back in the EPL era in this thread, the higher the price was. It was as high as £100m at some point. Post Antony Gordon's move to the Toon is was £60-80m. As we got towards the sale, it was £50m plus a makeweight of Djed Spence.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
They were paying for potential in the same way Spurs are paying for Brennan's potential, he isn't close to a £50m player currently but neither was Gordon when they signed him.
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Monkman said:
Nah... go back a few pages, no one wanted less than £50m!
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"Wanted" is a strong word. We all "wanted" £70m/£80m+ but there were plenty of folk on here who "accepted" that £50m was a reasonable amount which would give us a strong capital increase to reinvest with, especially on our way to migrating away from a low block/counter team.
 
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