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Financial Fair Play (FFP)

Mcbeth99

Mcbeth99

Grenville Morris
andover red said:
I can't believe anyone would want us to just take our punishment if there was a chance that others had been let off.
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My reason is that I want us to stay up.

On the plus side, there is a small chance that we will get another point reduction and we are sticking it to the PL.

On the negative side, we could end up with more than 4 points deduction, the team is once again distracted by a cloud hanging over them from off field issues, getting promoted is no longer in our hands as they can modify the points deduction after knowing how many points we have attained.

I feel the negatives outway the positives however much I want to complain/appeal. Now it looks like we are moaning because we are being hard done by. If our issue is that it is unfair for all teams (bar the top 6) then would it not be a stronger message from a team not looking at relegation in the face i.e. lets go full out next season from a 'better' position in the PL?
 
congo_red_49

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
Mcbeth99 said:
I feel the negatives outway the positives however much I want to complain/appeal. Now it looks like we are moaning because we are being hard done by. If our issue is that it is unfair for all teams (bar the top 6) then would it not be a stronger message from a team not looking at relegation in the face i.e. lets go full out next season from a 'better' position in the PL?
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I want to say...that I'm sure our leadership, having taken the time to decide whether they want to appeal (rather than deciding straight away and making an emotional, some might say knee-jerk decision), have also considered and discussed with individuals around the table who have the relevant expertise, in an honest and factual manner, all the elements of the case and weighed all the risks against the possible benefits before reaching a considered decision - for better or worse.

...but that's not really how we're run, is it?
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
coops89 said:
What a weird season where we are having to talk and worry about things off the pitch far more than what’s happening on the pitch. And we aren’t the only club. With that in mind, football really has lost the fans now hasn’t it.
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For the Premier League, fans are irrelevant. They are merely the background wallpaper to matches televised live, at huge cost to broadcasters (who will gladly pay for it) and supporters (who have no choice as what live matches there are, are all behind pay-TV platforms).

Football sold its soul for money in the 1990s.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Agenda Benda
Jimmy said:
It was an independent commission, not the EPL, that set the points deduction. We won't be appealing to the EPL. Unless the EPL appeal the decision then we won't get those points deducted. Have the EPL appealed to the independent commission?
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The EPL can make a submission to the Appeal, just as it did in Everton’s appeal.
 
T

tomw94

Geoff Thomas
YouReds43 said:
So Bournemouth only just passed PSR for season ending 22/23, They also spent 85m more this season. 215m since promotion without selling anyone big, Just shows that Parachute Payments does help you. So the Commissions rejection of that argument is completely wrong.
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Do parachute payments count towards PSR?
If so then it is obviously a huge advantage. As instead of having to sell Brennan we could have had a parachute payment of the amount instead, at a guaranteed date.
 
chaospunx

chaospunx

Geoff Thomas
Notcher said:
A lot of the stuff said (most in fact) actually played out exactly the way he said. He ruined a lot of his credibility and the 20 years it took to build up when he started talking about the reptilian lizard people. I was gutted for him when he said it.
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Yeah agree totally but he is a very interesting person to listen to
 
Notcher

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
chaospunx said:
Yeah agree totally but he is a very interesting person to listen to
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Yes I love listening to people from all backgrounds and seeing their analysis on history and events. He's definitely worth a listen by everyone at some point.

I watch podcasts more than TV these days, Joe Rogan always had a few good guests every month and Lex Fridman. Long form conversation has thrived the last few years, it shows how starved of it we were. It's killed mainstream and shows how ridiculous they were. Guests having 10 minutes between 6 of them where the aim is to hit the biggest zinger or soundbite at the end is not the way to be discussing complex and nuanced social and political events
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Redemption said:
The EPL can make a submission to the Appeal, just as it did in Everton’s appeal.
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Yes I read that. I am not really sure what it means though.
My guess would be some sort of 'justification' or supporting information.
Is that the same as actually appealing against the IC verdict though? I don't know.
 
congo_red_49

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
PlayedOnGrass said:
Yes I read that. I am not really sure what it means though.
My guess would be some sort of 'justification' or supporting information.
Is that the same as actually appealing against the IC verdict though? I don't know.
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It means if the EPL feel the independent commission treated us too leniently, or otherwise don't agree with the outcome, they can appeal the decision.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Agenda Benda
PlayedOnGrass said:
Yes I read that. I am not really sure what it means though.
My guess would be some sort of 'justification' or supporting information.
Is that the same as actually appealing against the IC verdict though? I don't know.
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I think as a respondent they can support their previous statements to the Commission where these are raised by the appellant.

They also have the ability to launch their own appeal.

That's how I've understood it, but it's a magpie's hoard with bits taken from a few places.
 
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GlynZou

A. Trialist
PlayedOnGrass said:
Yes I read that. I am not really sure what it means though.
My guess would be some sort of 'justification' or supporting information.
Is that the same as actually appealing against the IC verdict though? I don't know.
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Appeal Board’s PowersW.78.
Upon the hearing of an appeal, an Appeal Board may:
1. allow the appeal;
2. dismiss the appeal;
3. except in the case of a fixed penalty, vary any penalty imposed or order made at first instance
...8. make such other order as it thinks fit.
W.79. Subject to the provisions of Section X (Arbitration) of these Rules, the decision of an Appeal Board shall be final

So after the appeal there is a route into arbitration and thereafter the courts on public law grounds.
 
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