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Steve Cooper will always be the MAN!

It’s simple. Which side of the fence are you on?

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Listen 'ere young man

Listen 'ere young man

Jack Burkitt
Looks like the end is near so...

Thanks for the memories Steve and there have been quite a few. I seriously doubted that Forest would ever get back to the top league in my lifetime. You were the perfect gentleman under the chaos that is this club and conducted yourself with impeccable dignity. Wishing you the best for the future and you will always be a legend as far as we are concerned.
 
magicwoand

magicwoand

It tizwas it is
Erik said:
There is a point there though.

If it is perfectly acceptable for people to be highly critical of Steve Cooper, which they have, then surely it is equally as acceptable for people to be highly critical of whoever the manager is at any time?

We can't say 'it's fine to criticise X but not his eventual replacement'.

On the other hand, constant criticism of 'X' rather makes the case for criticism of his replacement, it's like a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Maybe if Nuno is the new manager he's allowed more than 0 games before fans start criticising him though.
 
PynchonForest

PynchonForest

John Robertson
Erik said:
Why not?

If we are prepared to accept criticism of the manager - and obviously some do - Then why is it not fair to be critical of his successor? And if it isn't acceptable at what point does it become acceptable and who decides that?
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What sense does it make to criticize someone before they do something? Santo has plenty of pedigree. Let's see what happens over the next few games, at the very least.
 
Monkman

Monkman

Grenville Morris
Erik said:
Why not?

If we are prepared to accept criticism of the manager - and obviously some do - Then why is it not fair to be critical of his successor? And if it isn't acceptable at what point does it become acceptable and who decides that?
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Surely you can see the difference between criticising past performance and potential future performance?
 
Flaggers

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ARedChester

First Team Squad
thereds66 said:
I have no doubt that Cooper is a Premier League standard manager, and that he will be very successful in the Prem, people forget how young he is and that he has so much progress he can still achieve, just a real shame it sounds like it won’t be with Forest
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Totally.

He will absolutely develop his style, his ability to be agile to different circumstances. As will Forest.

Crying shame itbis likely they could not do this together where both would likely learn quicker and be stronger.

Shameful handling of the situation by Forest of this actually plays out as is being reported.
 
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DB1702

Viv Anderson
Erik said:
Ah. So you are saying it is fine to be critical of a manager but when he's gone you can't criticise his replacement?

At what point then is criticism of the new manager considered acceptable?

Is it right that you should decide that?

Or is it down to the individual? In which case they are free to criticise from whatever point they want.
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Maybe after he has I don't know actually had some time to manage some games wild concept I know.

Just don't think its wise to start being critical before they have even started in the role - football fans are fickle my self 100 per cent included.

Having a negative attitude from the off helps nobody especially when Nuno has not even managed a game here.
 
Erik

Erik

oopsy daisy!
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PynchonForest said:
You don't criticize him before the first game. Get real. (Alex McLeish was an exception to that).
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magicwoand said:
Maybe if Nuno is the new manager he's allowed more than 0 games before fans start criticising him though.
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PynchonForest said:
What sense does it make to criticize someone before they do something? Santo has plenty of pedigree. Let's see what happens over the next few games, at the very least.
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Monkman said:
Surely you can see the difference between criticising past performance and potential future performance?
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Criticism is either acceptable or not.

If it is acceptable then who decides when it is allowed?

Or should that be down to the individual? If it is down to the individual then that is their prerogative, just because you don't like the point at which they deem it acceptable doesn't take away their right to criticise does it?
 
Master Yates

Master Yates

John Robertson
Typically uninspiring Marinakis/Mendes appointment. I guess it was always too much to hope that if they were going to sack Cooper they’d replace him with an exciting up and comer.

I look forward to hearing how Nuno’s five at the back, low block, counter attacking football is tactical genius in comparison to Cooper’s tactical naivety.


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tomw94

Geoff Thomas
Master Yates said:
Typically uninspiring Marinakis/Mendes appointment. I guess it was always too much to hope that if they were going to sack Cooper they’d replace him with an exciting up and comer.

I look forward to hearing how Nuno’s five at the back, low block, counter attacking football is tactical genius in comparison to Cooper’s tactical naivety.


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Exactly this. He set up very similar to how Cooper does, however his squad at Wolves was far superior.
 
magicwoand

magicwoand

It tizwas it is
Erik said:
Criticism is either acceptable or not.

If it is acceptable then who decides when it is allowed?

Or should that be down to the individual? If it is down to the individual then that is their prerogative, just because you don't like the point at which they deem it acceptable doesn't take away their right to criticise does it?
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You're free to criticise anything.
If you want criticism to hold any validity in the real world you have to criticise something that has actually happened.
 
PynchonForest

PynchonForest

John Robertson
Erik said:
Criticism is either acceptable or not.

If it is acceptable then who decides when it is allowed?

Or should that be down to the individual? If it is down to the individual then that is their prerogative, just because you don't like the point at which they deem it acceptable doesn't take away their right to criticise does it?
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You sound like an American.
 
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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
It’s lazy to say changes make you worse. Like many things in football it’s about recruitment. If we sacked cooper and got a decent manager with a plan people would be unhappy but soon you’d understand. Teams have got better after sackings however they have also got worse. So depends totally on who you bring in. Nuno to me feels like a disaster. Glasner didn’t feel like a disaster. That’s not to say you shouldn’t feel sadness. Basically what I am saying is it’s lazy to think a sacking is always bad.

Anyway I’ve consigned myself to relegation now and if we do I hope Luton stay up.
 
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Monkman

Monkman

Grenville Morris
Erik said:
Criticism is either acceptable or not.

If it is acceptable then who decides when it is allowed?

Or should that be down to the individual? If it is down to the individual then that is their prerogative, just because you don't like the point at which they deem it acceptable doesn't take away their right to criticise does it?
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No one is saying you can't do it, but you can surely accept that we can criticise you for doing it. Still don't see why you'd criticise him before he even arrives.
 
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