Redemption
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It's a nice fantasy Robbie but it would not get through planning because the numbers are just too large.
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Nottingham Forest Supporters Trust (NFST)
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Timothy Pope
I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
Also, the residential units are financing the construction
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Premier League revenues can pick up that slack.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Admittedly would require complete re-think on things like egress and public transport but nothing is impossible.
sammy the snake
Jack Armstrong
Interestingly though he did allude to the point that Forest could sell 50k seats for premium games.. then in the next breath he didn’t want to make decisions that could affect the long term negatively.
I wouldn’t be too surprised if it’s being discussed tbh
Other stadia are land-locked in the middle of cities - Newcastle, for example.
And for all the talk of the egress of 50k people, money talks at this level. A sustained Premier League presence for Forest could generate the kind of income that makes these sort of nimby objections magically go away.
And if they went for a bigger, 50k seater ground, you’re opening yourself up to potential international matches as well.
And for all the talk of the egress of 50k people, money talks at this level. A sustained Premier League presence for Forest could generate the kind of income that makes these sort of nimby objections magically go away.
And if they went for a bigger, 50k seater ground, you’re opening yourself up to potential international matches as well.
Redemption
Agenda Benda
The flaw in your plan is the residents of Rushcliffe feel the matchday pain, while the city of Nottingham takes the gain.
Lots of grounds that are landlocked in cities cannot develop on site at all. Its probably the reason most relocations happen.
Newcastle is an exception, I think.
I would maybe add also, the scousers (the red ones) who’ve deliberately let the area around their ground stagnate, then bought up many of the surrounding properties for peanuts, in order to develop Anfield.
As for Rushcliffe, local politics doesn’t help, but as a former resident of that Borough, the council will inevitably bend over if money is waved at them (they always do, witness how many atrociously badly planned housing estates have sprung up in recent years around villages like East Leake, Ruddington and parts of Clifton, with precious little additional investment provided for developers for things like new roads, schools, leisure facilities and doctors‘ surgeries, leaving those villages significantly worse off, whilst the developers pocket millions and the Council reaps a bonus from increased Council Tax revenues).
The replacement facility for the rowing club has the potential to be significantly more than a onetime hit in terms of impact.
Specifically - the location the rowing club want to use is directly behind the BC stand, and so would impede any redevelopment on that side of the ground.
Rubics
Bin VAR!
Can‘t see the club agreeing to anything that impedes future growth. Maybe I’m running before we can walk and 2+2 =5, but people like Randall don’t throw about numbers unless they’ve been thought about and discussed.
Stage one PT and the flats, stage 2 bridgford, stage 3 new BC - that could get us the 50k stadium that would allow the club to compete at the top end - that’s EMs vision, being a Brentford is not his aim.
First things first though - get the 3 points today.
Stage one PT and the flats, stage 2 bridgford, stage 3 new BC - that could get us the 50k stadium that would allow the club to compete at the top end - that’s EMs vision, being a Brentford is not his aim.
First things first though - get the 3 points today.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
If the talk of a 50k stadium is to be believed, the parking issues need sorting. If you have to get to the ground by car you already need to be earlier and earlier on match days. And that is for a mere 29k attendance.
andover red
Geoff Thomas
To be fair, the Borough Council approves planning decisions, but it doesn't directly benefit them in financial terms as the vast majority of any additional council tax goes to the county council
Or - better - address this with significantly better public transport, including perhaps a park-and-ride scheme?
Pretty much every German ground I’ve been to has excellent public transport links, either light rail/tram, suburban rail or bus. And of course, a day-ticket is included in the price of your match ticket.
Bob D'Imsen
Japanese Tourist
Owd Nicky needs to sort his barnet out.
I was concerned he had a big spider . . .a tarantuala, or a wolf spider, perhaps . . . sitting on the front of his head for the majority of the interview.
I was concerned he had a big spider . . .a tarantuala, or a wolf spider, perhaps . . . sitting on the front of his head for the majority of the interview.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Germany is significantly less densely populated, and the Germans had to rebuild all their infrastructure courtesy of the effectiveness of the RAF Bomber command.
Can we have the park and ride starting at Colston Bassett?
It would do the nobs to have that facility in the middle of their village
Steve B
Jack Armstrong
Trents
John Robertson
Certainly expanding the tram system would be ideal. Out of towners shooting up from the South can just park at Clifton P&R and not worry about city traffic. At the mo you can walk through The Meadows but a closer station would work wonders.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Me and the Mrs burst out laughing the moment we started to watch, and together said " Why has he got a spider on his head?".
Still, setting that aside, Owd bogger Nick is a great speaker.
I suppose that's because he is a KC, and used to talking rayt.
Bob D'Imsen
Japanese Tourist
He is. He's another bogger we're lucky to have at the club.
Rubics
Bin VAR!
I couldn’t get the Pringles tash out of my head! Really needs to embrace the grade 2 all over!
Germany had a significant rail network pre-war Captain, and in the cities, light rail has been around since the 19th century.Germany is significantly less densely populated, and the Germans had to rebuild all their infrastructure courtesy of the effectiveness of the RAF Bomber command.
Can we have the park and ride starting at Colston Bassett?
It would do the nobs to have that facility in the middle of their village
The motorway network between the cities was massively developed in the 1930s under you know who as well.
Stuttgart’s tram network first ran in 1895, and today, the line U11 runs from the central station to the Mercedes-Benz Arena. There is an S-Bahn (suburban commuter rail) line as well, that runs the other side of the ground.
Even when the city was basically bombed flat in WWII, the rail lines were re-established along most of the original routes.
But of course, Germany never had a „Beeching“ review either. I suspect when it comes to rail, Mr. Beeching was probably more effective in the U.K. than the RAF was in Germany!
Bob D'Imsen
Japanese Tourist
Anyone would've thought he was up to something.
To be honest, if he’d only stuck to making cheap cars for the population, motorways for them to drive on and expanding on the quality of life of the average German, he’d have been fine.
But it all went a bit wrong when he decided to try and take over the rest of Europe.
Good riddance.
Bob D'Imsen
Japanese Tourist
It wasn't him though, was it?
I'll bow to your advanced knowledge in such things - and you live there - but I think the whole development of the autobahn system in Germany was already put in place under the Weimar Republic but, on coming to power, the Nazi's nicked it as their own and presented it as Hitler's idea?
I'm sure he saw the value in having a good system for moving troops, equipment and, sadly, people whilst presenting it as an opportunity for employment and leisure opportunities for the German population.
Good riddance though. Agreed.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Somebody say Weimar-aner?
