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Thomas

Thomas

Martel Maxwell Enjoyer
Calvin Plummer said:
I mean the police aren't bastions of ethics, should we disregard any evidence they ever present?
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I’m not saying all the time but there’s plenty of big police departments here that are KNOWN for planting evidence in crime scenes and just plain lying. We Own This City is a book and show that shows the deep corruption of Baltimore, Maryland.

Just a side point.
 
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NFFCMagz

Guest
- Michelle Obama is a shemale
- We did go to the moon but the aliens who have a base there told us to get off and stay off which is why we’ve not been back
- The Queen is a shapeshifting reptilian
- The earth is flat
- Chemtrails are real
- MGW doesn’t actually exist and is really a hologram. There is a glitch in the system though and, if you look closely, you’ll notice that his moustache is never in the same place between his nose and lip. Attention can be drawn away from this by him playing in a shirt with stripes on it which is why he will not be signing for Forest and why he is leaving Wolves. I think Crystal Palace have deviated from their usual kit design this season so he won’t be going there and Southampton are very much in the driving seat for his signature.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Dogtits said:
We Own This City is a book and show that shows the deep corruption of Baltimore, Maryland.
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Watch the TV series, with Jon Berenthal. It’s brilliant.

Anyway, my favourite CIA statistic: America´s Central Intelligence Agency has overthrown, or supported in the overthrowing, of more governments than all the wars of the last two thousand years, put together.
 
GreeksBearingGifts

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Several times in the course of these five years, I have thought of pulling out of this forum, and have even written –and then deleted– some very elaborate posts on why I’m here, and why questioning my integrity is a red line for me. But I really hate drama queens and, as I grow older, I become more and more thick-skinned and try to look at the bigger picture. Therefore, I will not respond to Calvin, and will only repeat for the umpteenth time what I have often said about owners: he's right in the sense that vigilance of a fanbase over the actions of an owner is important and what a fan should be doing; the rest are facts and opinions. And the great Clint Eastwood has explained all there is to know about opinions.
 
Thomas

Thomas

Martel Maxwell Enjoyer
Strummer said:
Watch the TV series, with Jon Berenthal. It’s brilliant.

Anyway, my favourite CIA statistic: America´s Central Intelligence Agency has overthrown, or supported in the overthrowing, of more governments than all the wars of the last two thousand years, put together.
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i’ve seen some clips and it f***ing BOILS MY BLOOD so idk if i want to watch it! I heard great things about it tho, apt timing for it after the tragedy in Texas a few weeks back.
 
karteo

karteo

Jack Armstrong
Calvin Plummer said:
My original post was a joke in response to someone talking about allegations with regard to another owner.

Someone then asked what the allegations were, so I listed some.

Then the Greek defence force turned up who swear they've no bias or vested interest lol Quite why they frequent this forum is anyone's guess, well not that it requires much guessing...

And again the CIA comment was in regard to the usual excuse that its some Greek grand conspiracy to bring down this righteous man...I wasn't making a judgement either way, just pointing out the allegations haven't just been Greek.

Every police force, secret service etc has been repugnant at times. Should we totally disregard anything they say?

We've always had people who will defend our owners no matter what; Fawaz, ND (often me), even Wray and Scholar had apologists. This is the first time it's been professional.
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the big difference is that you don't have a clue on what you are talking about, you just read, spread rumours and egoistically deny facts presented and Justice decisions, on this matter whilst on the other hand we have lived with this for years and have huge data and reports and files and we know a little bit more on all these cases that you mentioned. For Christ's sake even for the match fixing accusations UEFA have examined thoroughly the case and data as our rivals have gone there in order to expel us from European competitions (they wanted to take our place and damage us financially) and have thrown everything in the toilet as rubbish.

the other big difference is that you question our integrity and our reasoning and our purpose of being here and writing things, while we didn't do the same although it could be a walk in the park, and you call us even in this post Greek Defence force undermining what we present and our ethics. Several things you've written are offending and I could discuss for hours on this matter but i don't value you enough to do so and i stop it right here since it is obvious that we annoy several users. I, and i think GBG, have posted just for informing the rest who care about this and in order to present the opposite view as a balance.

we live in a free world. everybody is allowed to believe whatever he wants. but the cornerstone of any free and democratic state is the Justice system
 
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Malmo79

Malmo79

A. Trialist
Calvin Plummer said:
My original post was a joke in response to someone talking about allegations with regard to another owner.

Someone then asked what the allegations were, so I listed some.

Then the Greek defence force turned up who swear they've no bias or vested interest lol Quite why they frequent this forum is anyone's guess, well not that it requires much guessing...

And again the CIA comment was in regard to the usual excuse that its some Greek grand conspiracy to bring down this righteous man...I wasn't making a judgement either way, just pointing out the allegations haven't just been Greek.

Every police force, secret service etc has been repugnant at times. Should we totally disregard anything they say?

We've always had people who will defend our owners no matter what; Fawaz, ND (often me), even Wray and Scholar had apologists. This is the first time it's been professional.
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I feel your off-base with some of your accusations and especially a certain flavour of jingoism and prejudices you show towards our Greek friends.

I've also found both GBG and Karteo to be nothing other than polite, considerate, knowledgeable football fans who took a genuine interest in NFFC, its history, its revival and ownership under EM.

There is certainly no fanaticism on their part expressed towards EM and they tell it as they see it, but also based upon their own personal experience of following Olympiakos and having followed EM's ownership there. I am sure they are far more knowledgeable than you and I on how things work in Greece, from a socio-political and cultural perspective.

Is EM an angel, well, is any successful businessman? For sure, he is ruthless, competitive and wanting to succeed in what he invests in. But underneath this there is also a man who cares passionately for both these clubs and for the first time in many, many years I see a culture and blueprint being followed that gives me real hope for the future of NFFC, it's embracing the history, the tradition, the fans, everything that makes us Nottingham, everything that makes us Forest.

I've not witnessed anything like this since the Clough era - and that was unique and dragged along by the character and personality of a genius (who himself was no angel either). Strong characters, strong leaders upset people and they will always have enemies and people aiming to shoot them down - it's always interesting to observe 2 things...

1. When do such accusations appear in the press? Usually when things are going well, and in envy or fear of success there is a need to create doubt or bring someone to heel (cut them down to size)

2. Why do such accusations wither away so quickly? Usually because there are no roots or substance to nourish such accusations

What I do see with EM is someone who cares passionately about this club and wants the best for it - and that's enough for me as a fan.

And to keep things vaguely on topic I really feel a player like MGW would fit into the Zinc role and formation we played last year and take it to the next level. It's one signing I really hope we go all out for.

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Vikare

Vikare

Viv Anderson
Calvin Plummer said:
My original post was a joke in response to someone talking about allegations with regard to another owner.

Someone then asked what the allegations were, so I listed some.

Then the Greek defence force turned up who swear they've no bias or vested interest lol Quite why they frequent this forum is anyone's guess, well not that it requires much guessing...

And again the CIA comment was in regard to the usual excuse that its some Greek grand conspiracy to bring down this righteous man...I wasn't making a judgement either way, just pointing out the allegations haven't just been Greek.

Every police force, secret service etc has been repugnant at times. Should we totally disregard anything they say?

We've always had people who will defend our owners no matter what; Fawaz, ND (often me), even Wray and Scholar had apologists. This is the first time it's been professional.
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I would like to ask again for the 'CIA allegations' article/source/link. No one else seems to remember such a thing, and indeed it has been pointed to you it's not true.
The rest of your comment is just personal attacks, either specific (GBG and Carteo,) or generic ("We've always had people who will defend our owners no matter what.")

And to appease Redemption's spiders: Yates at right-CM, O'Brien at left-CM and MGW at CAM looks a great midfield to my eyes.
 
RedRobbo

RedRobbo

Grenville Morris
Sal said:
Saw three pages of new posts, got excited that we may have signed MGW , but no. Instead, discovered there's actually a New World Order conspiracy of the CIA attempting to frame Marinakos for alleged financial mismanagement of Crystal Palace and administering hallucinogenics to web weaving spiders.

Ok.
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If you want conspiracy theories try that other ( so called ) forum - COYR.
The latest sees some bloke claiming to know that Dane Murphy is on his way out - and further suggests that no one disagree as he ( ‘Sniffer Dog’ ) owns the forum.
You couldn‘t make it up 🤦‍♂️
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
RedRobbo said:
If you want conspiracy theories try that other ( so called ) forum - COYR.
The latest sees some bloke claiming to know that Dane Murphy is on his way out - and further suggests that no one disagree as he ( ‘Sniffer Dog’ ) owns the forum.
You couldn‘t make it up 🤦‍♂️
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Nah, they’ll just accuse us of hacking them again.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Calvin Plummer said:
My original post was a joke in response to someone talking about allegations with regard to another owner.

Someone then asked what the allegations were, so I listed some.

Then the Greek defence force turned up who swear they've no bias or vested interest lol Quite why they frequent this forum is anyone's guess, well not that it requires much guessing...

And again the CIA comment was in regard to the usual excuse that its some Greek grand conspiracy to bring down this righteous man...I wasn't making a judgement either way, just pointing out the allegations haven't just been Greek.

Every police force, secret service etc has been repugnant at times. Should we totally disregard anything they say?

We've always had people who will defend our owners no matter what; Fawaz, ND (often me), even Wray and Scholar had apologists. This is the first time it's been professional.
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You’re sounding like Donald Trump now
 
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Otis Redding

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
RedRobbo said:
If you want conspiracy theories try that other ( so called ) forum - COYR.
The latest sees some bloke claiming to know that Dane Murphy is on his way out - and further suggests that no one disagree as he ( ‘Sniffer Dog’ ) owns the forum.
You couldn‘t make it up 🤦‍♂️
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FFS, does that place still exist?
I was banned from there for the heinous offence of merely mentioning that I was a member of this forum.
 
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