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Season Cards 2024/2025

REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
T.B.T. said:
It’s quite scary that I find myself agreeing with you. 🤣

I’m not opposed to protests but how do we, the players, the manager, the club, Marinakis know precisely what the withdrawal of the displays is about? We can all guess but a protest without a clear message doesn’t hold the weight and impact.

I fear the timing of all this is not productive to a winning mentality on the pitch.
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Reported for insulting me!

Yeah, I mean would it not be better to display a banner with a message about the price hike on, than not do one at all? The ownership probably wont even notice.
 
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benj360

First Team Squad
gamble said:
I've ready decided I will not be spending a single penny in the club next season, no shirt, no food drink (not that I often buy that stuff), I was planning on going to the fan zone but not now.

I won't sing MOK against City, the club can go f*** itself. They want to rise prices like that fair enough, I'll rescind my financial support else where.
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That's exactly where I am. I'll renew my season ticket because going to the football's a family thing for me (and a social thing generally) and I've never known any different, so I've got no choice really, but they'll not get a penny more out of me now.

I've seen plenty 'fellow supporters' trotting out the same mantra as the club (based on their social media output on Tuesday night) that if you don't want to go then don't bother - someone else will simply take your place. That's fine, but that then makes us mere customers and not supporters, and I'm prepared to behave accordingly. I'm not joining in with MOK either; my sympathies for the players and the effect this might have on their morale is limited frankly because they've got the millions of pounds they make from the club to motivate them anyway.
 
REDDERS78

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
Strummer said:
Not only that, only a complete and utter cretin would think that pushing this rather controversial price increase out right before what could be a crucial couple of weeks in Forest‘s battle to avoid relegation was a good idea?

The timing of this from the football club was, frankly, stupid. And now, they face a backlash from the supporters.

How anyone at the club didn‘t possibly think „Hmmm, hang on a minute….?“ is just dumb.
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Would that not be due to processing renewals etc, If it wasn't and it could have been done later then I absolutely agree, stupid timing.

I'm not sure about it, most clubs seem to have issued renewal dates so maybe its more a case of needing to?
 
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gamble

Stuart Pearce
benj360 said:
That's exactly where I am. I'll renew my season ticket because going to the football's a family thing for me (and a social thing generally) and I've never known any different, so I've got no choice really, but they'll not get a penny more out of me now.

I've seen plenty 'fellow supporters' trotting out the same mantra as the club (based on their social media output on Tuesday night) that if you don't want to go then don't bother - someone else will simply take your place. That's fine, but that then makes us mere customers and not supporters, and I'm prepared to behave accordingly. I'm not joining in with MOK either; my sympathies for the players and the effect this might have on their morale is limited frankly because they've got the millions of pounds they make from the club to motivate them anyway.
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Agreed entirely, this whole "it's not fair on the players" is bullshit, if they all took a 5% pay cut they'd cover the cost of the extra SC increase.
 
RedRobbo

RedRobbo

Geoff Thomas
I‘ve renewed - nearly £2k for me, my son & 2 grandsons.
Doesn't make me feel good - the club have lost all grasp of what drives the average supporter.
Whilst the price hike pissed me off I’m in the fortunate position to just about absorb the increase - but it’s the manner in which the club has sought to ‘turn the knife’ that really grates.
I‘ll be right behind the lads & the 4 of us will lend our vocal support as we always do - but not until MOK has finished. I can’t think of a more obvious way of demonstrating my / our displeasure than showing the ownership in the presence of the media what we think of them.
 
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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
Hawkeye1947 said:
I will be singing MOK as normal…for the players.
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These players would leave us for an extra 20k a week also. Players and agents also raise the cost of footy for everyone because thats where the money of football goes. This price increaese isnt going to some greedy tycoons pocket its purely all on the operating costs and barely covers that.

However I would sing it not for the players but the betterment of the club we need a united front so we dont relegated. However I am not entirely sure if I am even arsed about staying up now. I kinda miss the simpler times of the championship. Less stress and more competitive.
 
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Bohinens_chip

A. Trialist
I was thinking amending our only universal chant to "Forest are magic, just on the pitch!" would be easily transferable from what we have at the moment. But it's like a kid at school who says " if none of us do our homework that will show them". Ultimately futile and you know you have to do it eventually.

However, if it's our only chance, we should make a collective noise about it before the poor plebs who can afford to go are replaced by some other suckers. Let's at least give them that send off in the next 2 games


FWIW i reckon we'll get the vocally assisted MoK from the covid era at the man city game (though may have imagined that's a thing)
 
football post

football post

I'm still here Crewton
I've got to find an additional 600 quid for our three tickets. I did expect an increase but nothing like this.
Next seasons shirts will be coming from the Far East so that'll save me a few quid but I'm struggling to bridge the gap any other way. I don't buy anything in the ground as its rubbish as is the fanzone so there's not much else I can cut back on.

I explained to my youngest last night but she just couldn't understand why we have to pay more money for something that's not very good, (possibly worse) than it was last year.
 
oobidoobi

oobidoobi

First Team Squad
EmmersonForest4 said:
To be honest I think its uncalled for only reason the owner has lost loads of money on us. He isnt asking us to do anything he hasnt already done himself. Yes disagree with the decision and I think at the end of the season hold a protest however this isnt a greedy owner at play. Its an ownership trying to generate more revenue cause they are losing money hand over fitst on players. Its not a profit grab, teh profit grabbing is by football players really.
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Football clubs are monopolies, there are no other iterations of Forest other than the one owned by Marinakis. A captive market with a sole supplier are at risk of exploiting the power imbalance because its so easy to do. If theyre losing money there are many other costs that impact far more than the fact tickets are cheaper than many clubs. The revenue bump gained is such a small % of whats been pissed away, as to be almost symbolic.
When EM sells he will recoup some/most/all of his spent money, fans dont get their money back when theyve had enough. The two things arent the same
 
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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
gamble said:
No, but if they need us to sing MOK to be able to play football rather than just their wages, then they need us more than we need them.
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I get that but in the business of 1% a united front will make us better than a disjointed front that is undoubted. I know that as a manager myself. The best possible atmosphere you can generate to work in will only yield better results. Yes I agree they should still be motivated but surely human nature its a better feeling to be in a rocking City Ground that this awkardness. By the way I am not going to tell anyone not to do soemthing but you really are barking up the wrong tree. Football governance and costings are the actual issue.
 
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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
oobidoobi said:
Football clubs are monopolies, there are no other iterations of Forest other than the one owned by Marinakis. A captive market with a sole supplier are at risk of exploiting the power imbalance because its so easy to do. If theyre losing money there are many other costs that impact far more than the fact tickets are cheaper than many clubs. The revenue bump gained is such a small % of whats been pissed away, as to be almost symbolic.
When EM sells he will recoup some/most/all of his spent money, fans dont get their money back when theyve had enough. The two things arent the same
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Are you sure Maranakis will get his money back?!?! If we are championship hes gonna lose millions. I dont agree with that assessment. Although I do agree its a symbolic rise in prices. However all good companies are lookin for the 1% extra. It could be something thatr drags us over the line. Had we raised ticket prices last season and got a shirt sponsor we may have not had a points deduction. Its all part of a bigger picture. I totally empathise as I want footy to get back to its base and its core but I just find it impossible if you dont govern globalism in our game and outrageous costs for owners.
 
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gamble

Stuart Pearce
EmmersonForest4 said:
I get that but in the business of 1% a united front will make us better than a disjointed front that is undoubted. I know that as a manager myself. The best possible atmosphere you can generate to work in will only yield better results. Yes I agree they should still be motivated but surely human nature its a better feeling to be in a rocking City Ground that this awkardness. By the way I am not going to tell anyone not to do soemthing but you really are barking up the wrong tree. Football governance and costings are the actual issue.
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They are, and forcing the clubs bad decisions onto the fans isnt the way to go about fixing it.

If the club didn't want a divided front then maybe they should have thought about their actions and their deliberately antagonistic tweets, by doing nothing we essentially agree with what they've done.

We aren't beating City anyway.
 
oobidoobi

oobidoobi

First Team Squad
EmmersonForest4 said:
Are you sure Maranakis will get his money back?!?! If we are championship hes gonna lose millions. I dont agree with that assessment. Although I do agree its a symbolic rise in prices. However all good companies are lookin for the 1% extra. It could be something thatr drags us over the line. Had we raised ticket prices last season and got a shirt sponsor we may have not had a points deduction. Its all part of a bigger picture. I totally empathise as I want footy to get back to its base and its core but I just find it impossible if you dont govern globalism in our game and outrageous costs for owners.
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No im not sure hence: "some /most/ all" . Could even be more. He will also have the choice of when he sells, so can choose if he wants to sell at the top or bottom of the market.
 
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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
gamble said:
They are, and forcing the clubs bad decisions onto the fans isnt the way to go about fixing it.

If the club didn't want a divided front then maybe they should have thought about their actions, by doing nothing we essentially agree with what they've done.

We aren't beating City anyway.
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I dont like what has happened it makes me incredibly sad but all this is the side affect of globalism and an unregulated market. A market where clubs are allowed to lose money to compete. How can anyone think that we can have it all? Dont people empthaise with Maranakis? I think hes a hothead disorganised mess of an owner but its quite clear he is a football man. He loves his footy and gets it. Do you think this is a decision that he wants to do? I just think we need start a protest about the costs of football instead of this furore at the board. Thats my personal view, its channeled in the wrong area. Why dont Forest start a footy revolution and talk about inequality in football and obscene operating costs?
 
Alf-engelos Mindminackers

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
gamble said:
No, but if they need us to sing MOK to be able to play football rather than just their wages, then they need us more than we need them.
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Nailed it.

If anyone could be bothered, I think a great way of making a point to the club would be to invoice the club for "vocal, energetic and spiritual backing Season 22/23" to the tune of the difference in the SC costs, and get the press on board with it.
 
oobidoobi

oobidoobi

First Team Squad
EmmersonForest4 said:
Do you think this is a decision that he wants to do?
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TBH im not sure, but i am sure that the comparative season ticket cost within the league would be known and being amongst the cheapest gives an easy option especially when wanting to be perceived as a big club and having ambition like a big club but charging customers like a small club.
 
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Gareth Edds

First Team Squad
What worries me is that this increase is because the club are in more financial shite than they are letting on.

The club of late has not been honest with the fans, are great at keeping things hidden, then act all surprised when they are found out.

The tip of the iceberg seems to be getting bigger. Best start talking about a new ground again.......or development plans to the present ground. Best start blaming the refs, the council or anyone else who has not been blamed yet.
 
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