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Season Cards 2024/2025

Any Time Now

Any Time Now

Grenville Morris
Or put the right people in the right positions and let them do their job with minimal intervention from the top, bonus points if we can keep people around for more than 1 year before sacking them
 
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andyd

Youth Team
GreeksBearingGifts said:
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The first column was for early buyers, the second after the break for early buyers.
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Very interesting, thanks GBG. How do these prices compare to the expectations that people in Greece have about the cost of watching football? It's easy to look at these and rage compared to what has just been published for our new prices but obviously everything is relative to the normal expected level in that place.

That said, the fact that behind the goal seats max out at €250 is galling compared to our new £550 minimum and that for standing or the very upper corners. I know the economies of scale are different but fans in Piraeus are watching a Champions League team. Granted if we stay up we're watching a Premier League team but these prices strike me that he values keeping the fans on side at Olympiacos but frankly doesn't give a rip about fan sentiment in Nottingham.

Of course I could be reading into this too simplistically so do correct me GBG if there are factors I'm not privy too regarding your prices.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
magicwoand said:
Of course not. But I'm not sure there is a way to run this club in a way that makes certain sections of the fanbase happy.
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Sorry, no. Frankly - f*** the fanbase as a priority, frankly, I would settle for the football club being run in a half-way competent basis, you know, for example knowing how many loan players the club has (it is not difficult, who cannot count to six?) or being able to balance the accounts so that the club does not fall foul of PSR regulations?

Being able to do accounts properly is not exactly difficult.

Being able to balance a playing squad, is not exactly difficult.

Being able to Have a coherent strategy for recruitment, is not exactly difficult (you know, like Dane Murphy and Steve Cooper managed, before the petulant man-child who owns the club forced both of them out because they were more popular than he was).

Being able to provide a basic level of fundamental services within the stadium on match days, including working toilets and running water, is not exactly difficult.

Being able to match the aspirations of the fans, with concrete proposals for enhancing a stadium that is frankly not fit for purpose, and has not been for the last decade, is not exactly difficult.

And, explicitly, not bullshitting the fans who’ve supported the football club for decades, through thick and (mostly) thin, that Forest had nothing to worry about on the financial front as we would be compliant - a statement that was made as fact, more than once.

Frankly? The ownership are running this club into the ground. And anyone who cannot see that is either blind, or a fool.

And if you want to try and defend the way the football club is run?

Bring it, because you will be merely echoing the same shit that fans of clubs like Portsmouth had to endure, and look what happened to them.
 
magicwoand

magicwoand

It tizwas it is
Strummer said:
Sorry, no. Frankly - f*** the fanbase as a priority, frankly, I would settle for the football club being run in a half-way competent basis, you know, for example knowing how many loan players the club has (it is not difficult, who cannot count to six?) or being able to balance the accounts so that the club does not fall foul of PSR regulations?

Being able to do accounts properly is not exactly difficult.

Being able to balance a playing squad, is not exactly difficult.

Being able to Have a coherent strategy for recruitment, is not exactly difficult (you know, like Dane Murphy and Steve Cooper managed, before the petulant man-child who owns the club forced both of them out because they were more popular than he was).

Being able to provide a basic level of fundamental services within the stadium on match days, including working toilets and running water, is not exactly difficult.

Being able to match the aspirations of the fans, with concrete proposals for enhancing a stadium that is frankly not fit for purpose, and has not been for the last decade, is not exactly difficult.

And, explicitly, not bullshitting the fans who’ve supported the football club for decades, through thick and (mostly) thin, that Forest had nothing to worry about on the financial front as we would be compliant - a statement that was made as fact, more than once.

Frankly? The ownership are running this club into the ground. And anyone who cannot see that is either blind, or a fool.

And if you want to try and defend the way the football club is run?

Bring it, because you will be merely echoing the same shit that fans of clubs like Portsmouth had to endure, and look what happened to them.
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No mention of Germany in that post. Who's hacked you?
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
magicwoand said:
No mention of Germany in that post. Who's hacked you?
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That all you got?

You can apologise for the ownership all you like. If you‘re falling for their bullshit, then you‘re exactly the kind of mug punter they want to see at the City Ground, someone who will just bend over and hand over their wallet.

Good luck with that.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
DizzyBala said:
We went over because of the expenditure in the January window, not the summer one but I sort of understand your point.

Absolutely not, in fact, I think I was actually in tears with how happy I was. and the Sheffield United semi final might be the best game of football that I've ever been to. But it also didn't stop me going when we didn't win for 11 games last year.. or this for that matter.

If you look back over Marinakis' time with us, it's been throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. That's not long term planning. We have rotated the squad significantly almost every single year, makes it nigh on impossible to build upon anything.

Maybe it's unreasonable of me to expect the football club that I've loved for nearly 30 years to see me as more than a revenue source but if Evangelos wants to f*** about, don't do all this in the most scrutinised and publicised football league in the world.

Our league position doesn't embarrass me but us being docked points and being accused of cheating does. Marinakis acting like a tit pitch side against Liverpool and throwing his badge away at Fulham embarrasses me.

The whole thing is just one big clusterfuck and as our back and forth shows, it creates divides in positions and opinions when ideally the only focus should be on staying up and looking forward to next season.

I'm f***ing peering through my fingers at some of the stuff Forest are doing at the moment, lmao.
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You are right of course - we all want the same thing
I am sure EM does as well - he wouldn’t be here otherwise.
He is certainly a man who divides opinion
 
magicwoand

magicwoand

It tizwas it is
Strummer said:
That all you got?

You can apologise for the ownership all you like. If you‘re falling for their bullshit, then you‘re exactly the kind of mug punter they want to see at the City Ground, someone who will just bend over and hand over their wallet.

Good luck with that.
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It's all I'd got because I couldn't be arsed to reply to what you'd typed. But I will. I'm not apologising for the owner for a start.

Half of it was the same point repeating the PSR none compliance in a round about way. Of which fans can do nothing about. BTW half the Premier League isn't compliant either, but have found fudged ways around it or have legal power that we don't to delay to complicate investigation. The ownership should have been more sneaky rather than fess up. Or not spent the money in January and gone down.

The Marinakis sacking Dane and Cooper for being more popular is horseshit. if you believe that you'll believe anything.

The stadium needs knocking down and rebuilding, except any mention of this it met with cries of fans who've sat in the same ramshackle seat for 40 years and would not support the club anymore if we where to move or build on the same site a new stadium. Genuinely what do they want? A championship side until they die and f*** anyone who wants the club to compete.

I'm with you on functioning toilets and taps.

Accusing of running the club into the ground is such ridiculous hyperbole that its not worth responding.
 
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Bobby The Brain

Bobby The Brain

Weasel
Some inflation experto nerdo on C4 news has just shown a chart outlining crumpet prices falling.

So I don’t really know what you’re all complaining about tbh.
 
E

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
magicwoand said:
It's all I'd got because I couldn't be arsed to reply to what you'd typed. But I will. I'm not apologising for the owner for a start.

Half of it was the same point repeating the PSR none compliance in a round about way. Of which fans can do nothing about. BTW half the Premier League isn't compliant either, but have found fudged ways around it or have legal power that we don't to delay to complicate investigation. The ownership should have been more sneaky rather than fess up. Or not spent the money in January and gone down.

The Marinakis sacking Dane and Cooper for being more popular is horseshit. if you believe that you'll believe anything.

The stadium needs knocking down and rebuilding, except any mention of this it met with cries of fans who've sat in the same ramshackle seat for 40 years and would not support the club anymore if we where to move or build on the same site a new stadium. Genuinely what do they want? A championship side until they die and f*** anyone who wants the club to compete.

I'm with you on functioning toilets and taps.

Accusing of running the club into the ground is such ridiculous hyperbole that its not worth responding.
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I disagreed with you about the points deduction and I still think it was abysmal by the ownership. However I can’t get angry over this because the owner has only asked us to do what he has prepared to do himself. This isn’t an action of a greedy owner. That notion needs to be absolutely squashed. That bloke albeit a disorganised hothead mess you cannot call him for this. He is majorly out of pocket on us and he’s asked us to do the same. I’d rather focus my protest on how to get costs down for ownership so we all can love Forest in a sustainable cheaper way.
 
GreeksBearingGifts

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
andyd said:
Very interesting, thanks GBG. How do these prices compare to the expectations that people in Greece have about the cost of watching football? It's easy to look at these and rage compared to what has just been published for our new prices but obviously everything is relative to the normal expected level in that place.

That said, the fact that behind the goal seats max out at €250 is galling compared to our new £550 minimum and that for standing or the very upper corners. I know the economies of scale are different but fans in Piraeus are watching a Champions League team. Granted if we stay up we're watching a Premier League team but these prices strike me that he values keeping the fans on side at Olympiacos but frankly doesn't give a rip about fan sentiment in Nottingham.

Of course I could be reading into this too simplistically so do correct me GBG if there are factors I'm not privy too regarding your prices.
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Prices normally go up very little from year to year. The difference (apart from the difference in the two economies of course) is that overall attendance in Greece is dropping steadily, so one cannot really hike prices up too much.
 
Barry

Barry

Where's me hammer?
I was expecting a Stadium announcement today or some other "great news" to dilute the turd in the punchbowl they shit out last night... bet they are gutted they wheeled that old bird out for a weeks on end a few weeks back.... only a 100 year old fan can gloss over this shit

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Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

Jack Burkitt
I may be reading the room incorrectly but from what I've seen it seems that the outrage isn't about season card price increases per se, more about how the increases are being implemented and the communication and timing around it, especially the way the waiting list has been weaponised against any fans who are potentially unwilling or unable to pay the increased prices

I think most people expected prices to increase and that Premier League demand would push them up, that's just life, but there are ways of softening the blow the club could have taken but chose not to, and it's that point the fans feel is a massive f*** you

As I say though that's just my take
 
RedHelly

RedHelly

Youth Team
You can't compare prices in Greece to the Prem! You just can't.
You'd have to be pretty naive to think that the price for seats wasn't going to increase given the cost of survival in this bloody league.
 
M

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Mr. Blonde said:
I may be reading the room incorrectly but from what I've seen it seems that the outrage isn't about season card price increases per se, more about how the increases are being implemented and the communication and timing around it, especially the way the waiting list has been weaponised against any fans who are potentially unwilling or unable to pay the increased prices

I think most people expected prices to increase and that Premier League demand would push them up, that's just life, but there are ways of softening the blow the club could have taken but chose not to, and it's that point the fans feel is a massive f*** you

As I say though that's just my take
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I think it's a mix of things:

1) Increases way in excess of inflation
2) Increases applied seemingly randomly across the board
3) Increases disproportionately impact those who can afford it least

And then all the collateral like:
4) Pitting STH's against members
5) Pretending that relegation isn't a real scenario
6) Pretending that the increase of a couple million helps fund our PL ambitions.

But the over-riding factor is the club is completely tone-deaf to the concerns of the fans who've kept it going through bad times and very bad times.

And to top it off, they are, for the second season in a row, pissing off the fan base for some chump change which might be the difference between going down or not. I said it last year, I'll say it again: Fans who are pissed off back the players less, it's just natural. When we're dealing with such fine margins at the bottom you want every additional 1%. Forest are gambling £120m of revenue for £2m. The risk/reward profile is SO badly skewed only someone as unrealistic as Marinakis and co would think it was a good idea.
 
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andyd

Youth Team
RedHelly said:
You can't compare prices in Greece to the Prem! You just can't.
You'd have to be pretty naive to think that the price for seats wasn't going to increase given the cost of survival in this bloody league.
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I don’t think you can compare the prices. But you can certainly compare the posture and the pricing structures albeit they will be on a different level by pure numbers in a different economy.
 
Haych

Haych

John Robertson
The price increase will make Forest £2.7m meaning it will pay Harry Arters wages for the last 12 months and have about 100 grand left.

Shows you how pathetic it is for the club to rip people off, 2 or 3 million means f*** all at this level and isn’t worth pissing everyone off.

It wouldn’t be as bad if the City Ground wasn’t such a shit hole and we’d actually seen some of the upgrades we were promised years ago.

It does make me laugh that our beloved chairmen is complaining that Nottm city council want to increase our rent but thinks it’s sound to rip common folk off a few weeks later.
 
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