Season Cards 2024/2025

[jimbrennan]

I wonder how many won't renew due to the increased prices, it would be good to see that figure......

We are in a period of acceptance in this country for anything and everything, lets riot instead!

 

[stantonred]

Heard 3rd hand so not 100% sure on this but here goes: A chap who's had one of the boxes in BC stand for years paid £18k this season. Been told said box is going to be £65k for next season. He's not bothering surprisingly

Shit the bed! That's pricing out local businesses too. Who but the massive corporates are paying that out? That must be more than Club Wembley

 

[shearstone]

I think we are all guilty (except Maxi) of not seeing the writing on the wall last season. In hindsight it should have been clear as day when the owner over valued our shirt sponsor that he had unrealistic beliefs around the money he could extract for the club. Likely this season he'll get away with it (assuming we survive) but eventually he's going to face reality that we are not going to be the big draw the likes of the sky 6 are and numbers in the ground will dwindle.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I think we are all guilty of not seeing the writing on the wall last season

Nope

 

[congo_red_49]

In hindsight it should have been clear as day when the owner over valued our shirt sponsor that he had unrealistic beliefs around the money he could extract for the club.

Are you casting doubt on the wisdom of his AMBITION!?

 

[shearstone]

Nope

I've edited it just for you mate

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

Even if nothing actually changes, sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough. Getting relegated back to the Championship doesn't concern me as much as some of the decisions of the ownership does. They're turning the club I love into something that I actually don't really like that much, at the moment.

I'd still support Nottingham Forest if they were in the National League. As long as I can afford a ticket and have a team to support, I'll be there.

The problem with romantic idealism is that it is neither romantic or ideal.
Back in the real world.............
Whether you blame the owners or not - if we get relegated - there could be carnage which might set the club back 10 years.
I for one do not want to see that and will give them my 100% support to try, in any small way possible, to stop that happening.

 

[Strummer]

I think we are all guilty (except Maxi) of not seeing the writing on the wall last season. In hindsight it should have been clear as day when the owner over valued our shirt sponsor that he had unrealistic beliefs around the money he could extract for the club. Likely this season he'll get away with it (assuming we survive) but eventually he's going to face reality that we are not going to be the big draw the likes of the sky 6 are and numbers in the ground will dwindle.

Several of us pointed out that unfortunately, it appeared the ownership was somewhat over-valuing the appeal of Forest, Premier League or not.

The shirt sponsorship offered by BOXT, had the club taken it, would have brought in a significant chunk of the money the club seeks to now gouge out of matchday fans for tickets.

Clearly, the club-sanctioned comments about not settling for mediocrity seems to have colossally misunderstood where Forest has been as a club for much of the last couple of decades. You can’t just throw money at it and get success. That method has gone, with the protectionism of the so-called „Sky Six“.

If the owner had wanted something whose value would only increase, and somewhere that attendance costs were not so sore a topic, perhaps I might have the temerity to suggest he should have purchased a London club, with all the cachet and catchment that automatically brings, instead of the storied history that is the primary attribute of Nottingham Forest?

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I think we are all guilty (except Maxi) of not seeing the writing on the wall last season. In hindsight it should have been clear as day when the owner over valued our shirt sponsor that he had unrealistic beliefs around the money he could extract for the club. Likely this season he'll get away with it (assuming we survive) but eventually he's going to face reality that we are not going to be the big draw the likes of the sky 6 are and numbers in the ground will dwindle.

The moment I feared we'd walked this path (and I've discussed this with other members via private chats), was the moment when I heard that we didn't try to retain Gaz Braz.

Regardless of Gaz's ambition, it just signified to me a complete lack of appreciation for a stalwart not to at least try and retain his services, and thus a lack of appreciation and grasp on our club in general.

Gaz Braz may have wanted to move on anyway regardless of what offer was put to him, but the fact we didn't offer him a new contract to at least try and tempt him to stay displayed a disposable mentality which has no place at a niche club like ours. That was a huge connection we seemed to cut incredibly effortlessly, and it just didn't sit right. If Marinakis wants to operate like that, he should have bought Man City.

 

[YellowBelly Red]

Its started to make the national media now. I'm sure that Nino's presser on Friday will be interesting.

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

Out of interest do we have any idea what the SC pricing structure is at Olympiacos? @GreeksBearingGifts what kind of pricing structure exists for you all?

I'm interested whether Marinakis would (or has) done this kind of thing with massive hikes to prices to the fans in Greece? Is this his MO that we hadn't really seen or is it screwing fans of the club he owns in a different way to how he treats the fans of his boyhood club?

The first column was for early buyers, the second after the break for early buyers.

 

[DizzyBala]

The problem with romantic idealism is that it is neither romantic or ideal.
Back in the real world.............
Whether you blame the owners or not - if we get relegated - there could be carnage which might set the club back 10 years.
I for one do not want to see that and will give them my 100% support to try, in any small way possible, to stop that happening.

It's not romantic idealism, I said the same thing about the stadium. I'd rather be in League One again, at the City Ground than in the Premierleague at the Kaiyun Sports Arena in Toton. I blame the ownership because that's where the responsibility lies.

I don't like Evangelos Marinakis and I never have, I admire the financial backing that he has given the club but at the same time, it's in his own self-interest to do so over the long term, like any business. But you can trace most, if not all, the problems back to him and his army of sycophants.

You want to talk about setting the club back years?

Because we've breached PSR, we're going to be very limited in the transfer market this summer so don't expect any progression from where we are at now and in fact, given our situation, we're almost certain to lose Morgan and potentially one or two other key players.

We sacked our best manager in 30 years and while Steve had his faults, Marinakis and Co. made it impossible for him to succeed in the end, does Nuno strike you as someone that is going to be here long term?

We've just sold our best Academy Product for a record fee but in the same summer, we also f**ked off Gary Brazil without so much as a thank you, when he was largely responsible for bringing those products through. When was the last time you heard about an Academy player at Forest trying to force their way into the first team? We may, in the next few years, need our Academy to be in a good place again.

If you look at the recruitment we did in that first window in the Premierleague with Dane and George, how many of those are actual bangers now? Neco, Niakhite, Taiwo, Morgan, Mangala? Think how instrumental Dane Murphy was to getting us promoted? We f**ked him off and eventually we brought George back as a consultant but it set the club back.

Support the players, absolutely. Get behind the manager? Fair enough. But give unquestionable loyalty and support to the decision makers at this club? Absolutely f***ing not.

Relegation doesn't scare me. The Premierleague isn't the be all, end all. But, what does scare me is how this football club is ran.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

It's not romantic idealism, I said the same thing about the stadium. I'd rather be in League One again, at the City Ground than in the Premierleague at the Kaiyun Sports Arena in Toton. I blame the ownership because that's where the responsibility lies.

I don't like Evangelos Marinakis and I never have, I admire the financial backing that he has given the club but at the same time, it's in his own self-interest to do so over the long term, like any business. But you can trace most, if not all, the problems back to him and his army of sycophants.

You want to talk about setting the club back years?

Because we've breached PSR, we're going to be very limited in the transfer market this summer so don't expect any progression from where we are at now and in fact, given our situation, we're almost certain to lose Morgan and potentially one or two other key players.

We sacked our best manager in 30 years and while Steve had his faults, Marinakis and Co. made it impossible for him to succeed in the end, does Nuno strike you as someone that is going to be here long term?

We've just sold our best Academy Product for a record fee but in the same summer, we also f**ked off Gary Brazil without so much as a thank you, when he was largely responsible for bringing those products through. When was the last time you heard about an Academy player at Forest trying to force their way into the first team? We may, in the next few years, need our Academy to be in a good place again.

If you look at the recruitment we did in that first window in the Premierleague with Dane and George, how many of those are actual bangers now? Neco, Niakhite, Taiwo, Morgan, Mangala? Think how instrumental Dane Murphy was to getting us promoted? We f**ked him off and eventually we brought George back as a consultant but it set the club back.

Support the players, absolutely. Get behind the manager? Fair enough. But give unquestionable loyalty and support to the decision makers at this club? Absolutely f***ing not.

Relegation doesn't scare me. The Premierleague isn't the be all, end all. But, what does scare me is how this football club is ran.

This post has made me horny.

 

[Robertson]

Because we've breached PSR, we're going to be very limited in the transfer market this summer so don't expect any progression from where we are at now and in fact, given our situation, we're almost certain to lose Morgan and potentially one or two other key players.

Morgan and one or two other key players that we acquired in the first place by breaking PSR.

 

[Ashley]

It's not romantic idealism, I said the same thing about the stadium. I'd rather be in League One again, at the City Ground than in the Premierleague at the Kaiyun Sports Arena in Toton. I blame the ownership because that's where the responsibility lies.

I don't like Evangelos Marinakis and I never have, I admire the financial backing that he has given the club but at the same time, it's in his own self-interest to do so over the long term, like any business. But you can trace most, if not all, the problems back to him and his army of sycophants.

You want to talk about setting the club back years?

Because we've breached PSR, we're going to be very limited in the transfer market this summer so don't expect any progression from where we are at now and in fact, given our situation, we're almost certain to lose Morgan and potentially one or two other key players.

We sacked our best manager in 30 years and while Steve had his faults, Marinakis and Co. made it impossible for him to succeed in the end, does Nuno strike you as someone that is going to be here long term?

We've just sold our best Academy Product for a record fee but in the same summer, we also f**ked off Gary Brazil without so much as a thank you, when he was largely responsible for bringing those products through. When was the last time you heard about an Academy player at Forest trying to force their way into the first team? We may, in the next few years, need our Academy to be in a good place again.

If you look at the recruitment we did in that first window in the Premierleague with Dane and George, how many of those are actual bangers now? Neco, Niakhite, Taiwo, Morgan, Mangala? Think how instrumental Dane Murphy was to getting us promoted? We f**ked him off and eventually we brought George back as a consultant but it set the club back.

Support the players, absolutely. Get behind the manager? Fair enough. But give unquestionable loyalty and support to the decision makers at this club? Absolutely f***ing not.

Relegation doesn't scare me. The Premierleague isn't the be all, end all. But, what does scare me is how this football club is ran.

Well said. Relegation in isolation doesn't worry me, but the complications of relegation under this ownership certainly does.

 

[magicwoand]

Morgan and one or two other key players that we acquired in the first place by breaking PSR.

Don't mention Omar Richards, Don't mention Omar Richards.

 

[Robertson]

Don't mention Omar Richards, Don't mention Omar Richards.

We can thank Dane Murphy for him. And Giulian Biancone. Except probably not, ...because... unspecified reasons.

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

It's not romantic idealism, I said the same thing about the stadium. I'd rather be in League One again, at the City Ground than in the Premierleague at the Kaiyun Sports Arena in Toton. I blame the ownership because that's where the responsibility lies.

I don't like Evangelos Marinakis and I never have, I admire the financial backing that he has given the club but at the same time, it's in his own self-interest to do so over the long term, like any business. But you can trace most, if not all, the problems back to him and his army of sycophants.

You want to talk about setting the club back years?

Because we've breached PSR, we're going to be very limited in the transfer market this summer so don't expect any progression from where we are at now and in fact, given our situation, we're almost certain to lose Morgan and potentially one or two other key players.

We sacked our best manager in 30 years and while Steve had his faults, Marinakis and Co. made it impossible for him to succeed in the end, does Nuno strike you as someone that is going to be here long term?

We've just sold our best Academy Product for a record fee but in the same summer, we also f**ked off Gary Brazil without so much as a thank you, when he was largely responsible for bringing those products through. When was the last time you heard about an Academy player at Forest trying to force their way into the first team? We may, in the next few years, need our Academy to be in a good place again.

If you look at the recruitment we did in that first window in the Premierleague with Dane and George, how many of those are actual bangers now? Neco, Niakhite, Taiwo, Morgan, Mangala? Think how instrumental Dane Murphy was to getting us promoted? We f**ked him off and eventually we brought George back as a consultant but it set the club back.

Support the players, absolutely. Get behind the manager? Fair enough. But give unquestionable loyalty and support to the decision makers at this club? Absolutely f***ing not.

Relegation doesn't scare me. The Premierleague isn't the be all, end all. But, what does scare me is how this football club is ran.

I am in full agreement about the ground - we should never leave the WFCG
I even agree that SC was the best manager for the last 20 years at least - although he had reached his limit - in my opinion.
The rest is just conjecture based on your admission that you have never liked EM - I bet it didn’t stop you celebrating at Wembley though

 

[magicwoand]

I wonder what the crossover is with those moaning about season ticket renewal prices that also don't want a new ground.
For those people what do they actually want from the club? My seat in the exact same place for eternity and screw anyone else who wants to see this team play? And also you must run the club properly and try and compete in the premier league, and also if you get relegated you have run this club terribly and you must be booted out. Also I would be happy to be in League 1....

 

[JonnoSnr]

Even if nothing actually changes, sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough.

The problem is nobody will and the club know that. Football supporters are like no other consumer in that regardless of cost, quality of product/service and clear contempt by the business they're a customer of, they just come back for more and more.

The only way long term that this gets solved is if supporters vote with their feet and take the German approach but nobody will.

 

[adam09]

Us not singing MOK for 1 game against Man City which we'll probably lose anyway isn't going to be what costs us premier league football.

Maybe we could sing Can't Take My Eyes Off you to the Premier League and they'll give us our points back?

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Maybe instead of MoK we should all sing this?

 

[Flaggers]

I wonder what the crossover is with those moaning about season ticket renewal prices that also don't want a new ground.
For those people what do they actually want from the club? My seat in the exact same place for eternity and screw anyone else who wants to see this team play? And also you must run the club properly and try and compete in the premier league, and also if you get relegated you have run this club terribly and you must be booted out. Also I would be happy to be in League 1....

Is there something wrong with wanting the club to be run properly?

 

[magicwoand]

Is there something wrong with wanting the club to be run properly?

Of course not. But I'm not sure there is a way to run this club in a way that makes certain sections of the fanbase happy.

 

[DizzyBala]

Morgan and one or two other key players that we acquired in the first place by breaking PSR.

We went over because of the expenditure in the January window, not the summer one but I sort of understand your point.

I am in full agreement about the ground - we should never leave the WFCG
I even agree that SC was the best manager for the last 20 years at least - although he had reached his limit - in my opinion.
The rest is just conjecture based on your admission that you have never liked EM - I bet it didn’t stop you celebrating at Wembley though

Absolutely not, in fact, I think I was actually in tears with how happy I was. and the Sheffield United semi final might be the best game of football that I've ever been to. But it also didn't stop me going when we didn't win for 11 games last year.. or this for that matter.

If you look back over Marinakis' time with us, it's been throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. That's not long term planning. We have rotated the squad significantly almost every single year, makes it nigh on impossible to build upon anything.

Maybe it's unreasonable of me to expect the football club that I've loved for nearly 30 years to see me as more than a revenue source but if Evangelos wants to f*** about, don't do all this in the most scrutinised and publicised football league in the world.

Our league position doesn't embarrass me but us being docked points and being accused of cheating does. Marinakis acting like a tit pitch side against Liverpool and throwing his badge away at Fulham embarrasses me.

The whole thing is just one big clusterfuck and as our back and forth shows, it creates divides in positions and opinions when ideally the only focus should be on staying up and looking forward to next season.

I'm f***ing peering through my fingers at some of the stuff Forest are doing at the moment, lmao.