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Season Cards 2024/2025

Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Cloughie1975 said:
Agreed-but it’s disappointing that some long term fans (who supported us in League 1 and numerous Championship relegation struggles) will probably be priced out of going to see
the team they love.
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Some fans were already priced out.

im sure hundreds of fans with buying history did not join the membership schemes. Their loyalty priced out.
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
Redemption said:
Some fans were already priced out.

im sure hundreds of fans with buying history did not join the membership schemes. Their loyalty priced out.
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I agree-bit by bit I’m sure the ‘traditional’ football fan will be priced out of the game (at the
top level at least).
This is another step along that road.
 
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andyd

Youth Team
EmmersonForest4 said:
Exactly I cant stand higher ticket prices of course and I do sympathise with the situation. However these things will never get better unless we actually solve the root cause instead of complaining about the sypmtoms. Problem is for owner you have fans moaning why you arent competitive and than moan about prices. Its a no win situation and people are accusing the ownership of greed. Which in itself in laughable as football owners dont make profits. Maranakis as I have said has lost far more money on Forest than any of us. Than we have PSR... which means in order to compete we have to generate our own income. What a horrible sitiuation for an owner to be in.
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I think this is a fascinating point you make Emmo.

This new PSR approach tying spending to turnover is yet another weaponisation against the fans. For clubs like ours who don't have the commercial and logistical muscle of the Sky 6 there are three major revenue streams: TV money, sponsorship and "the customers". We all know PSR is designed to keep the Sky 6 padded but this new approach weaponises PSR as a means to defend bleeding fans dry. I can see it now "we can't control the TV money and we've maximised all avenues of sponsorship, if you want us to be able to compete and win things to make you happy the only way we can do that is by you putting your hands in your pocket and giving us more revenue".

I feel gross just writing that, PSR protects the Sky 6 and now PSR further bleeds the fans because the just HAVE to have the revenue instead of using the owners billion pound trust fund.

I hate modern football and can't take much more of this.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Cloughie1975 said:
I agree-bit by bit I’m sure the ‘traditional’ football fan will be priced out of the game (at the
top level at least).
This is another step along that road.
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First they came for the occasional legacy fan but I was not an occasional fan so I said nothing.

Then they came for the most home matches legacy fan, but I was not an occasional fan so I said nothing.

And then the cam for the season ticket legacy fan, but there was no one left to speak out for me.

Etc

(apologies to the victims of the holocaust for denigrating their deaths with the trivial of football)
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
garibaldi said:
The owner wastes 10s of millions of £s each season on players that don't or rarely feature and has failed FFP as a consequence. If he could tackle his player losses before squeezing fans then I assume most would be more accepting. However, he won't as it has been his Modus Operandi each season minus the Cooper promotion season under Murphy.

Not supporting the team is not the suggestion and is an exacerbation for your argument. Not singing MOK and turning our backs in protest is. During the game I'm sure most will continue to carry the team.
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The scene is set right at the beginning - when the players come out.
I am not sure it will matter too much against Man City - but you never know
However against Chelsea - a definitive 'must win' game - how do you think it will effect the morale of the 2 sets of players? - it will have an adverse effect on our players and motivate the Chelsea players - just the opposite of what is needed
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Notcher said:
How is silencing and turning our backs protesting against the wrong people? The second the whistle blows for kick off we can back the boys to the hilt. I'm not sure what's so difficult about that to understand?
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Go for it then - if that is how you want to protest.
MOK sets the scene for me and the players often comment - it 'makes the hair on their neck stand up' and inspires them.
Do you think it was just co-incidence that MGW played the game of his life against Fulham - or could he have been inspired by the banner before kick-off?
 
Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

Jack Burkitt
As utterly shit as the season card annoucement has been I really don't want to see any kind of matchday protest at the City Ground

If there's even a 1% chance it could adversely affect our players we need to forget it - we've got enough going against us as it is without shooting ourselves in the foot like that
 
Notcher

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
PlayedOnGrass said:
Go for it then - if that is how you want to protest.
MOK sets the scene for me and the players often comment - it 'makes the hair on their neck stand up' and inspires them.
Do you think it was just co-incidence that MGW played the game of his life against Fulham - or could he have been inspired by the banner before kick-off?
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I absolutely will. I absolutely love MOK and it will break my heart to do it but sometimes things are for the greater good and you have to sacrifice something
 
adam09

adam09

Super Koopa
Captain Sinister said:
The players were not consulted over the financial decisions made by the owner/Board of directors.
To withdraw our vocal support is slapping the faces of the wrong people.
Even if I am the only one stood, scarf aloft pre-kick-off for each half, I will be stood belting out MOK, and voicing my support for good play, sighing at bad play, giving the incompetent officials an ear bashing, and barracking the opposition players at every opportunity.
Of the 2 meaningful protests from us fans, one would be would be to cut-off our noses by not renewing season tickets en-masse.
The other is to boycott the merchandise shop and refuse to pay the rip-off prices for anything in there.
However the Club has to a certain extinct spiked our guns in regard to the first option, by having a waiting list of multiple thousands of saps who will take the place of the current ST holders.
As to the merchandise shop: Larry Lloyd 'em!!!

Edit: there is a 3rd option: no one take a "hospitality package", no-one pay to go on a museum tour, no one purchase food on the concourses or in the club's restaurants. Everyone to partake of pre-match victuals from the cob shop, the chip shop, even 'Spoons!
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Well I've decided NFFC will have to pay me £600 if they want me to sing MoK.

Otherwise I shall be leaving my noise at home and the millionnaire footballers can motivate themselves out of relegation this time.
 
Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

Jack Burkitt
Sherwood Kestrel said:
It's just typical Premier League I'm afraid, we all remember when football was for the fans. Them times are long gone, what the club actually said is not far off. We are still one of the cheapest season ticket around, mines £570 now. Football that we loved is long gone.
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I don't disagree but there are two things with this for me:

1. Aligning with the Premier League would be fine IF we were guaranteed to be a PL club next season, which we aren't so there's that, but notwithstanding that the failure from the club to commit to any kind of reduction / reimbursement should we be relegated AND having the closing date for renewals before the end of the season is just a massive f.uck you to loyal fans

2. If our owner wants to align our business model to other PL teams by raising season card prices, fine, but have the good grace to taper that over a couple of seasons at least - whether the proposed prices are fair in the context of the PL is kind of irrelevant, it's the sudden, potentially eye-watering jump that's made a lot of people angry. The club are asking people to suddenly find potentially hundreds of pounds extra or sod off, another massive f.uck you to loyal fans

I don't think too many have an issue with season card prices rising, I'd imagine everyone expected it, but the way it's been done and the loathsome communication from the club surrounding it have been, quite frankly, disgraceful
 
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garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
PlayedOnGrass said:
The scene is set right at the beginning - when th out.
I am not sure it will matter too much against Man City - but you never know
However against Chelsea - a definitive 'must win' game - how do you think it will effect the morale of the 2 sets of players? - it will have an adverse effect on our players and motivate the Chelsea players - just the opposite of what is needed
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City is the next game, don't worry about Chelsea. There's plenty of fan appeasement water to go under the bridge until then. Thankfully Forza Garibaldi seems to be leading this evolution.

Sometimes in life a long-term cause is better than immediate satisfaction. For me Forest is not about the Premier League at all costs.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Notcher said:
I'll take it on the chin Congo . In all seriousness the Man City game is one we are expected to lose and in all likelihood we probably will. It's actually the ideal game to do it.
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We have the same GD as Everton - even if it inspires the team to keep the score down - and we stay up by one goal - that will do for me
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
garibaldi said:
City is the next game, don't worry about Chelsea. There's plenty of fan appeasement water to go under the bridge until then. Thankfully Forza Garibaldi seems to be leading this evolution.

Sometimes in life a long-term cause is better than immediate satisfaction. For me Forest is not about the Premier League at all costs.
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I agree with the sentiments - I have been going since 1967 and seen just about everything
The reality is that you will change nothing and in some small way, if enough people adopt this attitude, may have contributed to us playing Championship football next year for the same price.
Still as long as it makes you feel better.
 
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garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
PlayedOnGrass said:
I agree with the sentiments - I have been going since 1967 and seen just about everything
The reality is that you will change nothing and in some small way, if enough people adopt this attitude, may have contributed to us playing Championship football next year for the same price.
Still as long as it makes you feel better.
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I admire your support. However, you belong to a generation that has never tried to change for the better as you have had more disposable income than your preceding generations and enjoyed being the children of the greatest generation. Many of us however, will be paying our mortgages past the age your generation retired and thus, is possibly why we're parallels apart on a simple 20-40% cost increase.
 
DizzyBala

DizzyBala

Jack Armstrong
PlayedOnGrass said:
I agree with the sentiments - I have been going since 1967 and seen just about everything
The reality is that you will change nothing and in some small way, if enough people adopt this attitude, may have contributed to us playing Championship football next year for the same price.
Still as long as it makes you feel better.
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Even if nothing actually changes, sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough. Getting relegated back to the Championship doesn't concern me as much as some of the decisions of the ownership does. They're turning the club I love into something that I actually don't really like that much, at the moment.

I'd still support Nottingham Forest if they were in the National League. As long as I can afford a ticket and have a team to support, I'll be there.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
garibaldi said:
I admire your support. However, you belong to a generation that has never tried to change for the better as you have had more disposable income than your preceding generations and enjoyed being the children of the greatest generation. Many of us however, will be paying our mortgages past the age your generation retired and thus, is possibly why we're parallels apart on a simple 20-40% cost increase.
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You condescending b******d
I have at no point said that I agree with the price rise - we just have different opinions on how to protest
I'll have you know - we only had 1 black and white TV and the only sport they showed was the snooker
If I needed the toilet at night - I had to go outside - past the coal bunker - get the Sun newspaper to wipe my arse - and light a candle to see where I was going
By the way - what is this mortgage thing you are talking about?
Do you know how difficult it is to survive on a triple-lock pension, the money from your private pensions and the proceeds of your parents house?
 
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