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May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Both Maranakis-boot-lickers and critical thinkers are free to do as they please and should feel no animosity from the other side.
Hmm.
 

Haych

John Robertson
Shock we hire some twat who’s been robbing Leeds fans for years and now we get a huge price hike.

If they continue putting prices up like this on the coming years that’ll be me done with football, I’ve never paid less attention to the game than I do currently and Forest are the only thing keeping my interest.
 

Bonfy177

LTLF MORON

Red Echo

Youth Team
I can only imagine the deluded corporate-speak that went into justifying this decision in the boardroom.

It's remarkable that they don't realise that the 'experience' they're selling won't really be there if they price out the average punter from going to games - you know, the ones who make the noise.
 

Bonfy177

LTLF MORON
Surely an IT Whizz like yourself has heard of Google Translate, Bonfy? ΦΙΛΟΔΟΞΙΑ!
To be fair when I open my yap, with my ever so slight northern accent people just hear

Ωστόσο, σκέφτηκα ότι άξιζε έναν γρήγορο έλεγχο.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
I can only imagine the deluded corporate-speak that went into justifying this decision in the boardroom.

It's remarkable that they don't realise that the 'experience' they're selling won't really be there if they price out the average punter from going to games - you know, the ones who make the noise.
They don’t care about the average punter. No Premier League club does.

They just want to pull the highest possible revenue out of every single seat, and instead of selling that seat at a pro-rata rate via a season ticket, they assume they can make more revenue from the modern-era „fan“ who is likely to spend additional money in the club shop and pony-up for the regurgitated slop they pass off as food, and the disgusting piss that passes for beer, at the City Ground.

You might have held a Season Ticket since the era of Mr. Clough, but in modern football, you’re simply classed as a „legacy fan“ and way down the list in importance when judged again those gullible recent converts to the Premier League who can be bilked for cash, every other week.
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
I’d rather we spent our energy protesting gross player wages and start a campaign to make football less pricey for owners as well as fans.
Might as well start a campaign to realign people's pay with House Prices for all the good that would do.
The market will be allowed to continue as it wants, until the market collapses.
 
They don’t care about the average punter. No Premier League club does.

They just want to pull the highest possible revenue out of every single seat, and instead of selling that seat at a pro-rata rate via a season ticket, they assume they can make more revenue from the modern-era „fan“ who is likely to spend additional money in the club shop and pony-up for the regurgitated slop they pass off as food, and the disgusting piss that passes for beer, at the City Ground.

You might have held a Season Ticket since the era of Mr. Clough, but in modern football, you’re simply classed as a „legacy fan“ and way down the list in importance when judged again those gullible recent converts to the Premier League who can be bilked for cash, every other week.
”Fan“ is so old fashioned.

I think the term you’re looking for is ”customer”.

But yeah, nail on the head, ain’t gonna change anytime soon either.
 

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
I've literally just said no other club relies on an atmosphere like this club. A "crutch" is metaphor suggesting the fans are needed to allow the team to function in this league. Apologies - I thought that was self-explanatory as this ideology has been mooted widely within the fan base.

Both Maranakis-boot-lickers and critical thinkers are free to do as they please and should feel no animosity from the other side.

I understand what a crutch is - and what happens if you take a crutch away? - you fall over.
Is that what you are advocating?
 

Sherwood Kestrel

Youth Team
It's just typical Premier League I'm afraid, we all remember when football was for the fans. Them times are long gone, what the club actually said is not far off. We are still one of the cheapest season ticket around, mines £570 now. Football that we loved is long gone.
 

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
No the owner is with his consumer price plan.
No - the owner, rightly or wrongly, is trying to align the clubs business model and revenues with 'our' competition.
It is you that is suggesting that as a way of protest, we should stop supporting the team
 

Robertson

Viv Anderson
They don’t care about the average punter. No Premier League club does.
Nail on the head. Which is why I think talk of protesting to get rid of EM is futile. Even if it eventually worked, the chances we’d end up with anyone better are very, very slim. And there’s a good chance they might be a lot worse. 777 anyone? Venky’s? A.N. Other group of ultra-efficient group of asset strippers? Maybe an oil-rich nation state with medieval attitudes to human rights?

Before anyone pipes up with Tony Bloom at Brighton or whatever the nerd at Brentford is called, if these individuals existed for Forest they’d probably already have stepped up. You could even argue our equivalent was Nigel Doughty and it didn’t work out too well for him. Or us for that matter.

I’d rather we spent our energy protesting gross player wages and start a campaign to make football less pricey for owners as well as fans.
Exactly. Any talk of protest should be directed at the root cause of commercialisation and commodification of football in England - the Premier league and the FA. Forest raising the ticket prices is a symptom of a wider problem not the root cause.

None of this makes me a "simp" or a "bootlicker" for the current ownership and those labelling people as such are just giving me an excuse to ignore their point of view. When actually, you know, we might agree on a lot of things. We're all annoyed that we signed Jonjo Shelvey for a start.
 

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
The players were not consulted over the financial decisions made by the owner/Board of directors.
To withdraw our vocal support is slapping the faces of the wrong people.
Even if I am the only one stood, scarf aloft pre-kick-off for each half, I will be stood belting out MOK, and voicing my support for good play, sighing at bad play, giving the incompetent officials an ear bashing, and barracking the opposition players at every opportunity.
Of the 2 meaningful protests from us fans, one would be would be to cut-off our noses by not renewing season tickets en-masse.
The other is to boycott the merchandise shop and refuse to pay the rip-off prices for anything in there.
However the Club has to a certain extinct spiked our guns in regard to the first option, by having a waiting list of multiple thousands of saps who will take the place of the current ST holders.
As to the merchandise shop: Larry Lloyd 'em!!!

Edit: there is a 3rd option: no one take a "hospitality package", no-one pay to go on a museum tour, no one purchase food on the concourses or in the club's restaurants. Everyone to partake of pre-match victuals from the cob shop, the chip shop, even 'Spoons!

Totally agree.
If you want to protest - no problem - but protest against the right people.
 

The Frog

Viv Anderson
Agreed-but it’s disappointing that some long term fans (who supported us in League 1 and numerous Championship relegation struggles) will probably be priced out of going to see
the team they love.
That’s kind of my point though Cloughie, I am one of those fans but to go I have to pay the types of sums that some are talking about not singing MoK for. There was no protest for the members, I just had to make my choice of if I wanted it at the price stipulated. It’s likely next year match day tickets will increase again but it’s still then down to me to decide.

In an ideal world we could all go and it would be cheap but it isn’t. It’s modern football run by the rich. Ticket prices are going to be inflated as is everything.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
Nail on the head. Which is why I think talk of protesting to get rid of EM is futile. Even if it eventually worked, the chances we’d end up with anyone better are very, very slim. And there’s a good chance they might be a lot worse. 777 anyone? Venky’s? A.N. Other group of ultra-efficient group of asset strippers? Maybe an oil-rich nation state with medieval attitudes to human rights?

Before anyone pipes up with Tony Bloom at Brighton or whatever the nerd at Brentford is called, if these individuals existed for Forest they’d probably already have stepped up. You could even argue our equivalent was Nigel Doughty and it didn’t work out too well for him. Or us for that matter.


Exactly. Any talk of protest should be directed at the root cause of commercialisation and commodification of football in England - the Premier league and the FA. Forest raising the ticket prices is a symptom of a wider problem not the root cause.

None of this makes me a "simp" or a "bootlicker" for the current ownership and those labelling people as such are just giving me an excuse to ignore their point of view. When actually, you know, we might agree on a lot of things. We're all annoyed that we signed Jonjo Shelvey for a start.
Exactly I cant stand higher ticket prices of course and I do sympathise with the situation. However these things will never get better unless we actually solve the root cause instead of complaining about the sypmtoms. Problem is for owner you have fans moaning why you arent competitive and than moan about prices. Its a no win situation and people are accusing the ownership of greed. Which in itself in laughable as football owners dont make profits. Maranakis as I have said has lost far more money on Forest than any of us. Than we have PSR... which means in order to compete we have to generate our own income. What a horrible sitiuation for an owner to be in.
 

garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
No - the owner, rightly or wrongly, is trying to align the clubs business model and revenues with 'our' competition.
It is you that is suggesting that as a way of protest, we should stop supporting the team
The owner wastes 10s of millions of £s each season on players that don't or rarely feature and has failed FFP as a consequence. If he could tackle his player losses before squeezing fans then I assume most would be more accepting. However, he won't as it has been his Modus Operandi each season minus the Cooper promotion season under Murphy.

Not supporting the team is not the suggestion and is an exacerbation for your argument. Not singing MOK and turning our backs in protest is. During the game I'm sure most will continue to carry the team.
 

The Frog

Viv Anderson
Out price a load of fans that have gone for years. Get at a load of new fans in. Get relegated.....................oh f***

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Sorry, but define ‘new fans’….presumably fans that have followed Forest for years and didn’t have a ST the year we went up and were locked out don’t count?

The entitlement that has come out from some quarters is crazy.
 

Robertson

Viv Anderson
It's not just football by the way that is pricing out all but the well off - look at the price of top stadium gigs £150+ some of them. Glastonbury is £355, smaller festivals are £200+ these days. I've paid £40 for a gig at Rock City later this year FFS.

Sure you can still go and watch someone in a room above a pub for a tenner, and that can often be great. Better even. I guess that's the music equivalent of watching non-league football.
 
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