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Jack Armstrong
I assume this is comedy.
Forest attacked City more today than most sides I've seen them play this season.
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Forest attacked City more today than most sides I've seen them play this season.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
Hope Nuno sticks with 3 central defenders at the back for the away games at Sheffield United and Burnley.
Reason being, we want to be solid in defence and also a nightmare on the counter attack like we were today for Man City.
Many people automatically think that starting with 3 central defenders is a sign of negativity, but it's not true, as shown by the amount of chances and shots we had over Manchester City. We have generally looked a lot more comfortable as a Premier League team with 3 CD's at the back. It's mainly how we managed to pick up a lot of important results towards the end of last season.
Those 2 away games are 'must-not-lose' games and then if we can get the wing-backs threatening on the wings like they did today, we'll have every chance to pick up an important away win in my opinion.
Reason being, we want to be solid in defence and also a nightmare on the counter attack like we were today for Man City.
Many people automatically think that starting with 3 central defenders is a sign of negativity, but it's not true, as shown by the amount of chances and shots we had over Manchester City. We have generally looked a lot more comfortable as a Premier League team with 3 CD's at the back. It's mainly how we managed to pick up a lot of important results towards the end of last season.
Those 2 away games are 'must-not-lose' games and then if we can get the wing-backs threatening on the wings like they did today, we'll have every chance to pick up an important away win in my opinion.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
We did to begin with than we took our foot off the pedal. I did say not counting today because playing Manchester City is an exceptional circumstance and you just try to play whatever you feel will get you a point. However in general Nuno has sat far too deep all season.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
The tricky but is whether that midfield works against the likes of Sheff U and Burnley. It might v Chelsea, but I'm not convinced on the other two. I'll let the manager do his job there...
I agree. It just makes us look more solid and allows us to play Boly Murillo Niakhate who feel like three of our best players..
Drop one of them we have to bring in a midfielder. I’m not sure I want to?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It definitely feels like it could be our blueprint for playing away
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Amazing that we're 3 games from end of the season and 1 point from the drop and our blueprint is...
.... to go back to the formation that the previous guy got told 9 months ago wasn't attacking enough for our mid-table ambitious side.
Wonderful. Never change Forest.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Tricky Tourist
Viv Anderson
Just to play devil's advocate, because Nuno got his starting set up spot on, we did ultimately concede two more goals yesterday, including once again from a dead ball, and ended up losing another game, while deploying those three central defenders. I really don't know what the solution is, but two managers later and we are running out of time to find it.
PlayedOnGrass
First Team Squad
Do you actually watch the matches?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
To play devil's advocate on that one again. The set piece was conceeded with only 10 men in position that Williams would have been stood and the second was Erling Haaland whilst 1v1 with a player that had strained his groin minutes earlier
Tricky Tourist
Viv Anderson
Fair enough, but to play devil's advocate on both of those points, an attentive coach would arguably have ensured both players had been subbed out before either of those goals were conceded? Also, the marking for their first was as shambolic as it is in every other game we've played under Nuno. Would Neco, or Montiel, being on the field have made a difference?
You know, I can’t help think that Steve Cooper chap was on to something, you know?
Maybe he did know what he was doing, after all?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Fair enough, but to play devil's advocate on both of those points, an attentive coach would arguably have ensured both players had been subbed out before either of those goals were conceded? Also, the marking for their first was as shambolic as it is in every other game we've played under Nuno. Would Neco, or Montiel, being on the field have made a difference?
I don't disagree with the points about the subs TT. That's what undid us.
Any Time Now
Jack Armstrong
Will be interesting to see if the same figures at the club who had a problem with Cooper playing 3 at the back will have the same problems with Nuno playing it, since according to them this was holding us back
I would welcome a return to 3 at the back, particularly against Chelsea. It gives Murillo a bit more freedom to come out with the ball.
Sels
Murillo
Niakhate
Boly if fit
WBR: Williams if fit
WBL: Aina
MGW
A.N. Other (Thought Danilo looked decent yesterday)
Elanga
Wood *
CHO
*unless Awoniyi is fully fit.
Sels
Murillo
Niakhate
Boly if fit
WBR: Williams if fit
WBL: Aina
MGW
A.N. Other (Thought Danilo looked decent yesterday)
Elanga
Wood *
CHO
*unless Awoniyi is fully fit.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It's a difficult one to gauge Strum because whilst he did have the back 3, I can't remember him deploying it with the back 3 we had yesterday and he certainly never had Danilo and MGW as the midfield pairing. He was onto something but didn't quite get the jigsaw pieces in the right way
It's not about the system for me, it's about the mentality and approach to the game. A one-striker formation is no less attacking than a two-striker formation if the approach is positive.
Under Cooper, last season, the players were quite clearly told to sit very deep and break. This was whether we were 5-3-2 or 4-3-3. In my opinion our approach was overly negative, giving far too much respect to our opponents.
Yesterday, despite playing a supposed 'defensive formation' we attacked plenty of times and outperformed arguably the best side in world football in XG. Our approach to the game was positive and but for missing some sitters would probably have earned a draw at least.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
So Nuno should have subbed Neco before the medical team told him that Neco was unfit to continue? Imagine the pelters he then gets if it later comes out that Neco was fit to continue and he'd gone too early on subs, a la Steve Cooper last season (not a dig at Coops, just something that happened twice).Fair enough, but to play devil's advocate on both of those points, an attentive coach would arguably have ensured both players had been subbed out before either of those goals were conceded? Also, the marking for their first was as shambolic as it is in every other game we've played under Nuno. Would Neco, or Montiel, being on the field have made a difference?
Some will beat Nuno with any stick they can find.
MGW appeared to leave Gvardiol to do what he wanted to do. Assume that wasn't what Nuno told him to do.
Bob Fossil
Nottingham's dirty secret
Ex Hamburg, German manager was in the directors box.
Said no comment when asked about the Forest job. Likely another Syrianos recommendation. It'd be harsh on Nuno- I still think he's a very decent manager.
Just noticed he's only ever managed & got sacked from teams in the 2nd division. Would be a strange appointment.
sportwitness.co.uk
Said no comment when asked about the Forest job. Likely another Syrianos recommendation. It'd be harsh on Nuno- I still think he's a very decent manager.
Just noticed he's only ever managed & got sacked from teams in the 2nd division. Would be a strange appointment.
'Trail leads to Nottingham Forest' - German manager was in directors' box at Nottingham Forest yesterday - Sport Witness
Former Hamburg manager Tim Walter has made a trip to England to visit Nottingham Forest. That’s at least what Sky Deutschland are reporting, and add that the German was in the directors’ box when they hosted Manchester City on Sunday. Walter has only managed in his own country so far and has...
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Des's dirty Y-fronts
First Team Squad
Including real Madrid
Agent Penguin
Geoff Thomas
The number of people shouting that we had not made the change, without there being a break in play, was quite disturbing.
Fans not knowing the rule about the length of time a player receives treatment for has to be off the pitch for, is part of that issue.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Sigh.Ex Hamburg, German manager was in the directors box.
Said no comment when asked about the Forest job. Likely another Syrianos recommendation. It'd be harsh on Nuno- I still think he's a very decent manager.
Just noticed he's only ever managed & got sacked from teams in the 2nd division. Would be a strange appointment.
'Trail leads to Nottingham Forest' - German manager was in directors' box at Nottingham Forest yesterday - Sport Witness
Former Hamburg manager Tim Walter has made a trip to England to visit Nottingham Forest. That’s at least what Sky Deutschland are reporting, and add that the German was in the directors’ box when they hosted Manchester City on Sunday. Walter has only managed in his own country so far and has...
We're back to just Googling win percentages again aren't we?
Seriously, Nuno's been shit in a lot of ways, but if we go down sticking with a manager who has already got out of the Championship makes far more sense than taking a punt on someone only familiar with managing in the Bumdesliga. Let's hope any speculation over him coming here is not true.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Sounds like a perfect continuity candidate if we want to replace Nuno.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Neither did MoTD2, they mentioned it too!