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Murillo Santiago Costa dos Santos

theloner

theloner

Viv Anderson
GOBIAS said:
Anyway, get him on free kicks, give him a free role!!
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This was another puzzling part of our season. Absolute wand of a left foot - nearly pinged one in from our own box while our coaching staff wondered who should take over set piece duties...
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
adam09 said:
Spent his early years at basically non-league level as well until he joined Corinthians at 17 so he's had 4 years of decent level coaching. Compare that to Foden and Palmer who joined City at age 4 and 8.
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Probably where his bravery with the ball comes from (which on a handful of occasions has looked like naivety in fairness to the world's best coaching setups).
 
Quntib Hollox

Quntib Hollox

Jack Armstrong
PynchonForest said:
I saw this quote on facebook today.

Murillo: "I always dreamt to play in the Premier League. For me, Nottingham Forest is the best group, the best team with a big history. We need to stay in the Premier League."

I honestly hope he chooses to stay and be with us. He is going to be a massive player and we are lucky to have him.
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Forest are certainly giving him a platform to showcase his talents with the amount of defending he has to do😁
 
Cortez the Killer

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
dr_horse said:
I don't believe that's the case.

Bigger clubs have always had their pick from smaller clubs.

Yes PSR would prevent us matching a top 6 wage bill due to our lower income, but if you removed those artificial spending restrictions they'd still have deeper pockets than us anyway.

Obviously I don't know what would tempt Murillo individually to stay or go, but for most young players the chance to play in the champs league with Liverpool or man u would be a draw too big even if we could match the salary.

Sadly, due to recent successes, you'd have to put man city and Chelsea in that bracket too, plus the usual famous foreign clubs.

The issue is not PSR, but that millionaire players hold all the cards - if they want to go then they will get that move.

The opportunity for Forest is to show we're a stable, well respected and well run club, completely focused on performance enhancement. It might only get us another year or two from genuine starlets, but that would be material to our chances of progressing, and the best we could hope for until we're back in the champs league ourselves.

I'm not sure we look like that kind of club atm though.

*Disclaimer - I'm not defending current PSR rules, they're rubbish.



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That was always the case when player power forced the move or a chairman put profits ahead of footballing ambition.

Those obstacles are still there, but they are now enforced by the FFP regulations. There is less choice now. If a player was happy to stay at Forest the club might now need him to be sold in order to solve the FFP issue. And FFP means that, no matter the ambition of the chairman, the regulations insist on player sales to maximise profits.

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eyupmeduck

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
Just quizzed my 10 year old daughter as to why she was humming the Salt and Pepper "Push it" tune repeatedly whilst she did some homework.

I can confirm it is because she says "the boys keep singing it repeatedly at school all day". I'm now showing her YouTube clips of our legend!

His names Murillo



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Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
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eyupmeduck said:
Just quizzed my 10 year old daughter as to why she was humming the Salt and Pepper "Push it" tune repeatedly whilst she did some homework.

I can confirm it is because she says "the boys keep singing it repeatedly at school all day". I'm now showing her YouTube clips of our legend!

His names Murillo



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Parenting, done right.
 
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IdiotTricky

First Team Squad
dr_horse said:
The opportunity for Forest is to show we're a stable, well respected and well run club, completely focused on performance enhancement. It might only get us another year or two from genuine starlets, but that would be material to our chances of progressing, and the best we could hope for until we're back in the champs league ourselves.

I'm not sure we look like that kind of club atm though.
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Isn't that the Brighton "model?" I recall suggestions that the owner admires their way of doing business and the nature of many of our recent signings suggests this might actually be the case? Rome, wasn't built in a day, etc. ...
 
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IdiotTricky

First Team Squad
eyupmeduck said:
Just quizzed my 10 year old daughter as to why she was humming the Salt and Pepper "Push it" tune repeatedly whilst she did some homework.

I can confirm it is because she says "the boys keep singing it repeatedly at school all day". I'm now showing her YouTube clips of our legend!

His names Murillo



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It's things like this that give me some small hope for the future of our species.
 
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dr_horse

Geoff Thomas
IdiotTricky said:
Isn't that the Brighton "model?" I recall suggestions that the owner admires their way of doing business and the nature of many of our recent signings suggests this might actually be the case? Rome, wasn't built in a day, etc. ...
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From Rome's founding to its collapse was 1,229 years, so yea that's probably an appropriate timescale to measure against based on our progress to date.


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JonnoSnr

Youth Team
IdiotTricky said:
Isn't that the Brighton "model?" I recall suggestions that the owner admires their way of doing business and the nature of many of our recent signings suggests this might actually be the case? Rome, wasn't built in a day, etc. ...
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I'd love Forest to essentially turn into the next Brighton but the behaviour of the club with recruitment suggests they're not all pulling in the same direction.

One minute they pull a gem out of the bag like Murillo and then invest in other young talent then on the other we spunk millions up the wall on 'names' like Origi and Shelvey.

It's almost as if the club has a set, defined way of doing business only for someone to completely blow it all out of the water on deadline day with ridiculous vanity signings.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
JonnoSnr said:
I'd love Forest to essentially turn into the next Brighton but the behaviour of the club with recruitment suggests they're not all pulling in the same direction.

One minute they pull a gem out of the bag like Murillo and then invest in other young talent then on the other we spunk millions up the wall on 'names' like Origi and Shelvey.

It's almost as if the club has a set, defined way of doing business only for someone to completely blow it all out of the water on deadline day with ridiculous vanity signings.
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In fairness I think we do need some experienced heads in this squad - while Origi was never really going to be that I could at least understand the logic behind the Shelvey move at the time. Worked out terribly though.

Not to say I don't agree with your point though - it does look disjointed from the outside looking in.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
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Notcher said:
The chillout beach soundtrack of the summer. I expect to hear it in beach bars all over the Balearics this year
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Already a firm favourite in south-western Germany, I can tell you that with some authority.
 
Notcher

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
JonnoSnr said:
I'd love Forest to essentially turn into the next Brighton but the behaviour of the club with recruitment suggests they're not all pulling in the same direction.

One minute they pull a gem out of the bag like Murillo and then invest in other young talent then on the other we spunk millions up the wall on 'names' like Origi and Shelvey.

It's almost as if the club has a set, defined way of doing business only for someone to completely blow it all out of the water on deadline day with ridiculous vanity signings.
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There's an issue within football clubs at the moment and that is with the data analysts. Most of them are being helicoptered in straight from university (also ties in with my post a few days ago regarding salaries at football clubs in the FFP thread) and a lot of these guys have never played football let alone understand professional football. They are then being given a lot of power in terms of decisions and strategy which is causing a power struggle with managers and others, I know from within a manager that lost his job very recently because of this issue which stretched as far as having more input than appropriate in team selection.

We all know that football is extremely nuanced and stats do not tell the whole picture, there are some things that you can only determine with your eyes and ears. Clubs have got an issue they need to resolve here because recruitment shouldn't solely be based on data and team selection input shouldn't even be on the table.
 
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Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
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