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Murillo Santiago Costa dos Santos

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JonnoSnr

Youth Team
Major Oak Morgan said:
Do we really have to sell him? Hope not.
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I could quite easily see City or Liverpool taking him and sticking him straight in the side. I think we should be looking for £60m as an absolute minimum.

We've dropped some real clangers with recruitment over the last 2 years but in Murillo have found a proper gem. The key will be finding his replacement when he is inevitably sold. Finding the odd diamond is great but well-run, self-sustaining clubs are able to keep replacing them cheaply without getting weaker. That's the challenge for us.
 
adam09

adam09

Super Koopa
Larry Lansbury said:
Massive shout to Murillo, he got an assist for Woods goal for a brilliant ball to his feet. Then his ball for MGW from free kick, which led to CHO goal was even better. I might be wrong but have we ever had a centre back with this level of vision, quality and ability to start attacks and create chances. But to move up to that elite level he has to become more dominant in the air though.
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I was actually thinking about this earlier. As an example - Virgil van Dijk is 6'5" and Vincent Kompany is 6'4". Murillo is not bad in the air of course but doesn't have the leap to make up for the lack of height so he's never going to be dominant is he?

For that reason, I do wonder if long term he would be better as a DM/CM sitting and pinging passes like Pirlo/Scholes. I do hope he got a few pointers off Paul Evans last night too.
 
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marshal99

John Robertson
why does he need to be dominant in the air ? Walker was never that dominant but his pace and anticipation make up for that. Murillo will learn and improve with every strikers he's marking.
 
Rosie

Rosie

Viv Anderson
<wails uncontrollably> I don’t want him to go! 😥😥😥

Notcher said:
With a gun pointed at your head you'd have to say Murillo unfortunately
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I would pick MGW - the set piece MGW, not the other version. 😜
 
adam09

adam09

Super Koopa
marshal99 said:
why does he need to be dominant in the air ? Walker was never that dominant but his pace and anticipation make up for that. Murillo will learn and improve with every strikers he's marking.
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Des Walker who infamously headed two own goals into his own net in important games.

Nearly 40% of the goals we have conceded are from set pieces. If he had that extra height he'd be a complete player.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
adam09 said:
Des Walker who infamously headed two own goals into his own net in important games.

Nearly 40% of the goals we have conceded are from set pieces. If he had that extra height he'd be a complete player.
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Well, at least Desmond won those headers, unlike several of Forest‘s current centre-backs.
 
redforest

redforest

Geoff Thomas
Redemption said:
The issue with aligning the transfer windows with the accounting period is which way around.

If you let the accounting period go to to the end of the transfer window as it stands, part of your seasonal incomes get confused. Maguire made a good point about this vis Luton - their entire promotion season netted them less revenue than just the first month of their EPL season. it would be quite messy.

If you bring the transfer window to end before the new season kicks a ball, you have to do all your business early, but this would have been difficult for play-off winners like Forest; it was a challenge as it was. In addition, if this is only an EPL rule, then the transfer window outside of the league would make it harder to bring in decent players because other leagues would benefit from the extra month or so.

The EPL did try to close the transfer window before the season started. There was no opposition from any club to extending it again. The trial lasted a single season.
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Due to big six being pissed off that they couldn’t steal any bright new thing identified at the start of the new season
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
There's a lot more to playing in midfield than being able to ping a pass. I'm happy to see Murillo go for a big fee in the summer. Great player, seems like a nice guy, huge potential, but the fact that we can't defend set pieces is an existential crisis that has to be solved, no matter what the cost. If selling Murillo and getting a big lump with two left feet as a replacement is part of cost of solving that, then we grit our teeth and pay it.
 
Alf-engelos Mindminackers

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Malwood said:
There's a lot more to playing in midfield than being able to ping a pass. I'm happy to see Murillo go for a big fee in the summer. Great player, seems like a nice guy, huge potential, but the fact that we can't defend set pieces is an existential crisis that has to be solved, no matter what the cost. If selling Murillo and getting a big lump with two left feet as a replacement is part of cost of solving that, then we grit our teeth and pay it.
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The sad truth.

We need to build a Prem caliber defensive unit, not a unit which has some great players but which as a collective is vulnerable.

Huge shame because Murillo is a quality player who will big magnificent in the right setup, and ideally we'd have a tall, experienced leader alongside him marshalling everything. But FFP/PSR had likely played our hand for us.
 
Red Echo

Red Echo

Youth Team
Malwood said:
There's a lot more to playing in midfield than being able to ping a pass. I'm happy to see Murillo go for a big fee in the summer. Great player, seems like a nice guy, huge potential, but the fact that we can't defend set pieces is an existential crisis that has to be solved, no matter what the cost. If selling Murillo and getting a big lump with two left feet as a replacement is part of cost of solving that, then we grit our teeth and pay it.
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Being marshalled by a healthy Felipe all year would've done him (and the team) wonders.

It's important that Forest eventually get the right fee though - it has to be Wesley Fofana money.
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
Red Echo said:
Being marshalled by a healthy Felipe all year would've done him (and the team) wonders.

It's important that Forest eventually get the right fee though - it has to be Wesley Fofana money.
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I don't think there's any chance of that. Mainly because I think those kind of fees for a defender are over in the PSR world.
 
Lee

Lee

Lurker of shadows
Malwood said:
I don't think there's any chance of that. Mainly because I think those kind of fees for a defender are over in the PSR world.
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Maybe not, clubs just need to sell a hotel or two like Chelsea have done
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
If anyone wants him then let the bidding start at £100m

Alternatively, given that a 2nd breach of PSR is 2 points, then f*** PSR and let's keep the team together
 
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