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    Football/soccer has been the number one sport in Canada for as long as I can remember, by far more people in Canada play it than any other sport. People think it's ice hockey, but the costs associated with ice hockey prohibit many young people from participating in it. Canadians in general are cheap, football is cheap to play

    When I was young growing up there, I was lucky that our small town had an ex-Chelsea coach living in it with our large expat community, so training was so much better than all the surrounding areas. I got to play men's football at a decent standard by 13, but once school was finished the only route for further development was American College/Uni programs (which I was offered and did in my knee). Canadian Universities/Colleges were forbidden to offer athletic scholarships, so any talent filtered to the USA or stopped playing.

    Coaching in Canada was terrible, in the American college system the standard was about as good as U16 sides in Europe. Players in Canada and the USA were taking the only route available into the USA schools, would graduate at 23 or 24 and be at a level of European players U16.

    This is all mostly because of failed professional leagues time and time again in Canada and the USA. The best Canadian talent so far was told he played "like a girl" as a youth, so his family had the means to ship him off to Germany to continue his training.

    The world cup in American opened eyes (mostly the eyes of money men) as to just how popular football could be as all the people who play the sport want local clubs to support after they stop playing. It took them a good 10 years to set up a league system that worked for them.

    The MLS moving into Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver did wonders for football in Canada as those clubs saved money by setting up academies and invested in coaching. The Canadian Soccer Association has always been useless, and continues to be so.

    While college athletics scholarships are still a viable route for Canadian talent with coaching levels being much better now, the players still come out way behind because they finish school 4 or 5 years after an academy player, the MLS clubs youth programs and community schemes are getting better and better at identifying talent.

    Women's football in Canada has benefited from the slow route of American schools for generations as it works for them because the European Women's game wasn't developed. More young Canadian girls are moving directly to Europe now though.

    The Canadian Prem League is a great idea, but the costs and distances may still destroy it. I hope it endures though, we'll see.

    I'm still surprised Mexican clubs haven't scouted more in Canada, there is serious money in some of the Mexican teams and their setups are very good.

    As far as work permits, Canada is mostly a country of immigration, it isn't difficult for most young people to find a way to get a foreign passport.

    Sorry for the long post....

    To summarize for the "text speak" people who hate to read more than one sentence:

    Canadians play football, lots of youth talent, now being identified and groomed, more to come in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nffclsr View Post
    Football/soccer has been the number one sport in Canada for as long as I can remember, by far more people in Canada play it than any other sport. People think it's ice hockey, but the costs associated with ice hockey prohibit many young people from participating in it. Canadians in general are cheap, football is cheap to play

    When I was young growing up there, I was lucky that our small town had an ex-Chelsea coach living in it with our large expat community, so training was so much better than all the surrounding areas. I got to play men's football at a decent standard by 13, but once school was finished the only route for further development was American College/Uni programs (which I was offered and did in my knee). Canadian Universities/Colleges were forbidden to offer athletic scholarships, so any talent filtered to the USA or stopped playing.

    Coaching in Canada was terrible, in the American college system the standard was about as good as U16 sides in Europe. Players in Canada and the USA were taking the only route available into the USA schools, would graduate at 23 or 24 and be at a level of European players U16.

    This is all mostly because of failed professional leagues time and time again in Canada and the USA. The best Canadian talent so far was told he played "like a girl" as a youth, so his family had the means to ship him off to Germany to continue his training.

    The world cup in American opened eyes (mostly the eyes of money men) as to just how popular football could be as all the people who play the sport want local clubs to support after they stop playing. It took them a good 10 years to set up a league system that worked for them.

    The MLS moving into Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver did wonders for football in Canada as those clubs saved money by setting up academies and invested in coaching. The Canadian Soccer Association has always been useless, and continues to be so.

    While college athletics scholarships are still a viable route for Canadian talent with coaching levels being much better now, the players still come out way behind because they finish school 4 or 5 years after an academy player, the MLS clubs youth programs and community schemes are getting better and better at identifying talent.

    Women's football in Canada has benefited from the slow route of American schools for generations as it works for them because the European Women's game wasn't developed. More young Canadian girls are moving directly to Europe now though.

    The Canadian Prem League is a great idea, but the costs and distances may still destroy it. I hope it endures though, we'll see.

    I'm still surprised Mexican clubs haven't scouted more in Canada, there is serious money in some of the Mexican teams and their setups are very good.

    As far as work permits, Canada is mostly a country of immigration, it isn't difficult for most young people to find a way to get a foreign passport.

    Sorry for the long post....

    To summarize for the "text speak" people who hate to read more than one sentence:

    Canadians play football, lots of youth talent, now being identified and groomed, more to come in the future.
    Just a point on the large numbers of Portuguese/Italian/Croatian etc passport holders in Canadian football: that used to be an advantage when we were in the EU, but is not of any use now with the new system in the UK.

    Helpful for young Canadians who want to start their career in Europe though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRed85 View Post
    Just a point on the large numbers of Portuguese/Italian/Croatian etc passport holders in Canadian football: that used to be an advantage when we were in the EU, but is not of any use now with the new system in the UK.

    Helpful for young Canadians who want to start their career in Europe though.


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    Yes, I think we'll see even more starting their careers in Belgium, Germany, or Eastern Europe.

    A lot of the new crop of talent have half their roots from African, Asian or Caribbean heritage, but often mixed with a European relative somewhere in the family tree from their immigration in the past 100 years or so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PynchonForest View Post
    I am expecting a fair bit of derisive feedback on this, but that's fine. Suddenly, my country has a good national team. And there are a few young players on our national team that aren't on the radar of many yet, but they will be soon. IMHO, our scouts shoudl eb looking into winger Tajon Buchanan, and defender (right/center back) Alistair Johnston. JOhnston has northern Irish parentage on one side, so a work permit should be no problem. HE's gone from playing in a provincial league to being a real good defender, and I think he'd easily fit into our team. Tajon Buchanan is going to be a top player. His improvement the past two years has been amazing. He will be in Europe soon. HE kinda looks like Leroy Sane, and his level isn't that far off right now. Blistering pace, and a real incisiveness around the box. I am not sure if anyone on here is in cahoots with anyone at the club, but if you are, pass these two names along. Given what Alphonso Davies has turned into (and the impact Jonathon David has had at French champs Lille) we are suddenly on the cusp of turning out some real good players who should have zero problem with a move to England.
    Good shout mate - I watched USA v Canada in WC qualifying game last week (1-1) and was really impressed with Canada team (names no one has ever heard of).Don't forget Man U & England star Owen Hargreaves came from you neck of the wood, so Forest definitely need to find the new' Owen Hargeaves for a 500,000 transfer fee (better valyue that a clapped out journeyman from Rotherham or Blackpool for example

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    I'm happy to offer my untrained services, should forest require.

    To borrow Strummer's terminology, Hargreaves actually came from my local team, who I believe are represented significantly in the recently formed Calvary FC.

    I will say that tickets for the CPL are pretty expensive but things are a bit more at least here in oil country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian_red View Post
    I'm happy to offer my untrained services, should forest require.

    To borrow Strummer's terminology, Hargreaves actually came from my local team, who I believe are represented significantly in the recently formed Calvary FC.

    I will say that tickets for the CPL are pretty expensive but things are a bit more at least here in oil country.
    It was Hargreave's coaches in Calgary who told him he played like a girl, thats why he left.


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    What's Owen Hargreaves doing these days?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jah View Post
    What's Owen Hargreaves doing these days?
    Stupid comment - he was a good footballer
    To answer your question, he's making a six figure salary for taking about football 4-5 hours a week on TV, so I'd say "doing pretty well"
    Out of interest "Jah", what are YOU doing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Rooster View Post
    Stupid comment - he was a good footballer
    To answer your question, he's making a six figure salary for taking about football 4-5 hours a week on TV, so I'd say "doing pretty well"
    Out of interest "Jah", what are YOU doing?
    He was only asking, why have you got your knickers in a twist?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRed85 View Post
    Speaking of Canadians, I wanted us to go for Cyle Larin before he went to Besiktas. They only paid 1.7m for him and he’s carried on scoring goals in Turkey and when he went on loan to Belgium. He looks well suited for the Championship to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by PynchonForest View Post
    I'm not a big Larin fan. Big, mobile and he does score, but I don't really like his footballing brain. Jonathon David is a better player.
    Quote Originally Posted by RealRed85 View Post
    Larin would’ve been in our price range when he was at Orlando though (although not sure on work permit situation at that time) and probably also before he went out on loan to Zulte Waregem when he was out of favour at Besiktas.

    He is out of contract next summer I believe. If Besiktas don’t want to keep him, he’d be a really good bosman signing, although I’m sure interest would be high.
    If one trusts the Turkish sports press -and one should never do so-, we've already booked him for next year.


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    Their leaf is even like an Alf MS Paint version of the Forest logo......




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    Signed Cyle Larin on Fifa once, he was pretty decent.

    Mind you, Zach Clough tore the league a new arsehole back then too, so make of that what you will.


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    After the last round of internationals, I read an article that said Canada was the highest scoring international side this year followed by England in 2nd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nffclsr View Post
    After the last round of internationals, I read an article that said Canada was the highest scoring international side this year followed by England in 2nd.
    Majority of concacaf is dogshit and I think Canada has great attacking talent.


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    I like Canadian talent




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    It'll do


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-engelos Mindminackers View Post
    I like Canadian talent

    Hmmm.

    Air Canada‘s stewardesses did not dress like that, the last time I flew with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Hmmm.

    Air Canada‘s stewardesses did not dress like that, the last time I flew with them?
    Last time I flew AC all the stews were about 60 years old.....


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    I can recommend budget Vietnam airline, VietJet, who experienced a staggering upturn in bookings - and profits - when they deployed stewardesses on their flights who were dressed in what can only be described as rather skimpy swimwear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    I can recommend budget Vietnam airline, VietJet, who experienced a staggering upturn in bookings - and profits - when they deployed stewardesses on their flights who were dressed in what can only be described as rather skimpy swimwear.
    I just looked it up and that is absolutely fabulous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogtits View Post
    I just looked it up and that is absolutely fabulous.
    I did as well, then the wife leans over and looks at my laptop just at the moment I opened the picture and yeah, I'll be hearing about that one for weeks


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    Well, you can’t say I didn’t warn you lads.

    I have to say, it was incredibly impressive, in the flesh.


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    To be fair to Mrs. Blonde I do have previous. We went on a trip to Budapest a few years ago and I don't know if anyone has flown with Wizz Air but they have some very attractive cabin crew.

    Now as it was rather last minute the wife and I weren't able to sit together and so when this stewardess comes round and starts flirting (as I'm sure they do with everyone) I could feel my better half's eyes boring into the back of my head.

    My instincts were to order a shot of something James Bond-style and flirt my arse off but on reflection came to my senses and thought, better go with the orange juice and another chapter of the Hunger Games.

    Women. Always spoiling things for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-engelos Mindminackers View Post
    I like Canadian talent

    Can she play left back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Well, you can’t say I didn’t warn you lads.

    I have to say, it was incredibly impressive, in the flesh.


    I can imagine that a few tray tables were being used to hide some passenger’s delight


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