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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Fucks sake, as 13th, I'm out
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFFC_Josh View Post
    They won't host these matches at Anfield, Allianz, or San Siro. Instead, they'll play these games in front of well-off foreigners in Asia and America.

    Of course they haven't admitted this to now. But it seems pretty logical to assume they've got something like a ''foreign tours/circus/carnival'' type shit in the works.
    But what the money men behind this dont care about is the absolutely glorious part of European away trips was visiting those fantastic grounds.

    Its a one-off, its supposed to be that special because that what makes those wonderful European nights so different.

    Also, what kind of frequent away supporter is going to be able to commit to trips to Spain (x3), Italy (x3) just for starters every season?

    But again, this isnt about supporters, its about revenue from television. Theres 1.4Bn potential fans in China for their product, perhaps they can sell it to them instead.

    I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism

    Don't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.

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    Absolutely against the idea but I can't help but piss myself laughing that the Premier League is up in arms about protecting the tradition of the game and not selling out to corporate and money interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    The Super League Clubs have started legal action to prevent themselves being banned from their domestic competitions.

    This is genuinely an attempt to dictate football. Incredible.
    They won't get their way Hulk.

    It is a power & money grab, and everybody outside the boardrooms at those clubs can see it for what it is. They are using it for leverage.

    The thing is, it may have had legs if it wasn't the closed shop idea, the fact that Arsenal & Spurs are involved pretty much sums it up.

    The only result I wish comes from this is that they are come down on like a tonne of bricks. If the European Super League exists, then you go and so do your titles. If it doesn't exist, you are taking a huge hit financially and in terms of league.

    Whatever happens, it's gonna be entertaining


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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmersonForest4 View Post
    Different systems have benefits and negatives. The American system is great for competition and it works much better than ours for that but our system is much more interesting and fun. What needs to happen is a wealth redistribution just make it more competitive whilst maintaining some of the dog eat dog nature that makes it so fun.

    The American model and the current model are both unbalanced.
    The key difference with the American system is those competitions are still domestically focused on the American game. They dont damage their own national systems because they are those. They serve that market.
    International markets arent placed ahead of the US. The system is there to benefit US teams, fans and its domestic game.

    Here, this effectively relegated the domestic competitions further and devalues every other club who isnt involved in this, removing any form of aspiration for those clubs or their fans. The aim here is to move away from the fans who built these clubs, secure control over football and target international fan money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFFC_Josh View Post
    They won't host these matches at Anfield, Allianz, or San Siro. Instead, they'll play these games in front of well-off foreigners in Asia and America.

    Of course they haven't admitted this to now. But it seems pretty logical to assume they've got something like a ''foreign tours/circus/carnival'' type shit in the works.
    They could play some games in Qatar while taking the knee and wearing rainbow laces


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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    The Super League Clubs have started legal action to prevent themselves being banned from their domestic competitions.

    This is genuinely an attempt to dictate football. Incredible.
    Good luck with that. It is no accident that representatives of the EU have already spoken against the plan. It is no secret that the ambitions of the big clubs are contrary to the EU's competition laws. There are even papers on the matter: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...2.2020.1863851


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzarecteh View Post
    They won't get their way Hulk.

    It is a power & money grab, and everybody outside the boardrooms at those clubs can see it for what it is. They are using it for leverage.

    The thing is, it may have had legs if it wasn't the closed shop idea, the fact that Arsenal & Spurs are involved pretty much sums it up.

    The only result I wish comes from this is that they are come down on like a tonne of bricks. If the European Super League exists, then you go and so do your titles. If it doesn't exist, you are taking a huge hit financially and in terms of league.

    Whatever happens, it's gonna be entertaining
    I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the fallout Razza


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    RED BULL LEPZIG, Dortmund & Bayern have just said they have no interest in joining


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    But what the money men behind this dont care about is the absolutely glorious part of European away trips was visiting those fantastic grounds.

    Its a one-off, its supposed to be that special because that what makes those wonderful European nights so different.

    Also, what kind of frequent away supporter is going to be able to commit to trips to Spain (x3), Italy (x3) just for starters every season?

    But again, this isnt about supporters, its about revenue from television. Theres 1.4Bn potential fans in China for their product, perhaps they can sell it to them instead.
    Yeah exactly right - its summed up from Florentino Perez's quote "Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and it is our responsibility as a big club to respond to the wishes of the fans"


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    The funny thing is, new Champions League structure has been voted through this morning with everybody on board - previously only those not on board were the ones that left


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    At least the boomers on here can update their "football was ruined in 1992" template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzarecteh View Post
    They won't get their way Hulk.

    It is a power & money grab, and everybody outside the boardrooms at those clubs can see it for what it is. They are using it for leverage.

    The thing is, it may have had legs if it wasn't the closed shop idea, the fact that Arsenal & Spurs are involved pretty much sums it up.

    The only result I wish comes from this is that they are come down on like a tonne of bricks. If the European Super League exists, then you go and so do your titles. If it doesn't exist, you are taking a huge hit financially and in terms of league.
    Sadly I think they will get their way. They are smart people and have been working on this for years. Agnelli knows what he’s doing and he knows the European authorities inside out. They wouldn’t be making this move if there was any real risk to them.

    I hope you are right though. The authorities need to do everything they can to stamp this out and regain some control over the sport.


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    I do like a good whinge about modern football, the PL, the CL ect but if this goes ahead i'll be taking it to another level


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    Default Re: The European Super League thread

    For anyone that might be interested that uses Twitter, if you search Nottingham Forest and sort by latest we are being used globally as a 'this can never happen again' example.

    Endless tweets from, in the last 15 minutes alone, Argentina, France, Spain, Italy etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Yates View Post
    I do like a good whinge about modern football, the PL, the CL ect but if this goes ahead i'll be taking it to another level
    Looking forward to it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    At least the boomers on here can update their "football was ruined in 1992" template.

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    Cheers PZ, will do

    anyway what's a boomer


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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Sadly I think they will get their way. They are smart people and have been working on this for years. Agnelli knows what hes doing and he knows the European authorities inside out. They wouldnt be making this move if there was any real risk to them.

    I hope you are right though. The authorities need to do everything they can to stamp this out and regain some control over the sport.
    They are taking the risk because the payout would be massive for them. They are all losing money as it is, from a business point of view this is their answer - but football clubs aren't treated as businesses like in America, and in a court of law that will be took into account.

    All of the clubs "brands" will be damaged massively from this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haych View Post
    Tottenham Hotspurs are the first Super League club to sack their manager as they have parted ways with Jose Mourinho.
    Refused to take training this morning because of the Super League announcement, apparently.

    Good on him, if so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    Refused to take training this morning because of the Super League announcement, apparently.

    Good on him, if so.

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    Yep, fair fucks to him if that's the case


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    Refused to take training this morning because of the Super League announcement, apparently.

    Good on him, if so.

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    You know, I hope this is true, because then hes shown hes a man of genuine integrity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redemption View Post
    It will be interesting to see Marinakis' position on this... is there a possibility that Oly would be occasionally in the 3 invites?
    The short answer is most definitely no. The 15 rich clubs will prefer to invite clubs from richer markets (e.g. Turkey, Russia etc.).

    We are heavily implicated in the European Club Association, the organization representing more than 200 professional clubs and acting as a stakeholder working with UEFA.

    In the context of the ECA, there have been discussions of a league with some members having guaranteed access, and we have occasionally flirted with the idea of trying to get in (when the numbers were much higher: in previous plans the idea was of a league consisting of 24 clubs or more). But we, and everyone else except the ultra rich, were totally against the idea of a league completeley without ties with the rest of the structures of European football, without relegation and promotion, etc.


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    https://twitter.com/alexwickham/stat...39309938991104

    "Scoop: Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden has told officials to draw up a list of "very robust options" to take action against the 6 English ESL clubs

    Told one of the options is the German 50+1% model of fan representation. All options on the table"

    Doubt that would happen.


 

 

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